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Actress Leslie Jones Hacked, Private Info Leaked

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Postby New confederate ramenia » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:18 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
New confederate ramenia wrote:This. We seriously need to prosecute doxxing more.

Basically. It's like using an example of a Muslim doing something bad to apply that to all Muslims. Different people do this ALL THE TIME on these threads.
>Islamic terror attack
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>"FUCKIGN CONSERVATIVE BIGOTS XDDDDDD"


My criticism and mockery was directed entirely towards the people involved in the actual hacking, and to a lesser degree towards those who participated in the initial harassment, as I think should be perfectly clear to anyone reading my post. If you thought that this somehow was an attack on alt-rightists in general, then I suggest you re-read the OP.

I wasn't criticizing you, I was criticizing what always happens in threads like these. Your OP was actually really good.
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:18 pm

The Shady Looking Vukmiri Delegates wrote:Fair retribution for what her and her colleagues did to the Ghostbusters franchise and movie. :lol2:

At no point does her taking part in a film mean she should have her website hacked.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:18 pm

The Shady Looking Vukmiri Delegates wrote:Fair retribution for what her and her colleagues did to the Ghostbusters franchise and movie. :lol2:


So if someone capitalizes on the doxx and injures or kills her you'd call that fair retribution as well?
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:18 pm

Inter-Universal Republic of Earth wrote:An extreme person hacked a person's account because the person they looked up to was smeared by Leslie Jones. Unacceptable behavior. And illegal.

However, I this really shouldn't be treated as a "look at the bad right wing people!" issue, this should be treated as any other incident when a lunatic goes after someone. Trial, verdict, prison sentence.


I agree. I do think that Milo Y. and others helped to create an environment where this sort of thing is seen as acceptable, or even as something to boast about, but that's not a criminal offense so much as a crime against common decency (Which is obviously not a prosecutable offense).

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Postby Greater Orensta » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:18 pm

Uiiop wrote:
Greater Orensta wrote:because i am

Then can you at least give a reason why you don't care about this?

it happens all the time, doesn't affect me, or you, so why do you care?
The Shady Looking Vukmiri Delegates wrote:Fair retribution for what her and her colleagues did to the Ghostbusters franchise and movie. :lol2:

this
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:19 pm

36 Camera Perspective wrote:Pretty sexist to automatically assume a man did this.


Nah.

If it's shown to be a woman, then I'll happily admit my error.

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Postby Gauthier » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:20 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Inter-Universal Republic of Earth wrote:An extreme person hacked a person's account because the person they looked up to was smeared by Leslie Jones. Unacceptable behavior. And illegal.

However, I this really shouldn't be treated as a "look at the bad right wing people!" issue, this should be treated as any other incident when a lunatic goes after someone. Trial, verdict, prison sentence.


I agree. I do think that Milo Y. and others helped to create an environment where this sort of thing is seen as acceptable, or even as something to boast about, but that's not a criminal offense so much as a crime against common decency (Which is obviously not a prosecutable offense).


The problem is that certain amount of people interpret the douchebaggery as permission to act more physically, as can be seen with the jump in British hate crimes following the Brexit vote.
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
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If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:20 pm

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Uiiop wrote:You responding with only a meme is still spam even if it's from something within the article.
Also it makes you look(Not that it is inherently the case) like you're dismissive to the harm that has been done.

because i am


Fine. Then leave it to the people who actually want to discuss it, and again: Don't spam the thread.

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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:20 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:Pretty sexist to automatically assume a man did this.


Nah.

If it's shown to be a woman, then I'll happily admit my error.


Good on you.
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Postby Utceforp » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:20 pm

36 Camera Perspective wrote:Pretty sexist to automatically assume a man did this.

A misogynistic group overwhelmingly composed of men have been harassing people involved in the Ghostbusters reboot for quite some time now. It's pretty clear that the hacker is a part of this group, and is therefore probably a man.
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Postby Uiiop » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:20 pm

The Shady Looking Vukmiri Delegates wrote:Fair retribution for what her and her colleagues did to the Ghostbusters franchise and movie. :lol2:

Making a slightly funny mediocre movie is punishable by harassment now?
I'm sorry i just can't take that seriously
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:20 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
I agree. I do think that Milo Y. and others helped to create an environment where this sort of thing is seen as acceptable, or even as something to boast about, but that's not a criminal offense so much as a crime against common decency (Which is obviously not a prosecutable offense).


The problem is that certain amount of people interpret the douchebaggery as permission to act more physically, as can be seen with the jump in British hate crimes following the Brexit vote.


Yeah, but again, that's still on the people themselves.

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Postby Greater Orensta » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:21 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Greater Orensta wrote:because i am


Fine. Then leave it to the people who actually want to discuss it, and again: Don't spam the thread.

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Postby Wallenburg » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:22 pm

Investigate, track down, and prosecute the fuck out of these bastards.
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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:22 pm

Utceforp wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:Pretty sexist to automatically assume a man did this.

A misogynistic group overwhelmingly composed of men have been harassing people involved in the Ghostbusters reboot for quite some time now. It's pretty clear that the hacker is a part of this group, and is therefore probably a man.


I concede that much. What I'm saying is, even the most inductively strong argument can still have a false conclusion.

If it wasn't already a given, this hack is fucking terrible.
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Postby Inter-Universal Republic of Earth » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:23 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Inter-Universal Republic of Earth wrote:An extreme person hacked a person's account because the person they looked up to was smeared by Leslie Jones. Unacceptable behavior. And illegal.

However, I this really shouldn't be treated as a "look at the bad right wing people!" issue, this should be treated as any other incident when a lunatic goes after someone. Trial, verdict, prison sentence.


I agree. I do think that Milo Y. and others helped to create an environment where this sort of thing is seen as acceptable, or even as something to boast about, but that's not a criminal offense so much as a crime against common decency (Which is obviously not a prosecutable offense).


Although with many of the things he says I agree with politically, his social actions and some political choices cause me to simply not like him very much. Although he probably didn't mean for this to happen (in fact he got some good press coverage out of it), he probably doesn't mind either. And although I do not agree with Leslie Jones all that often, I kind of have to take the bullet for her and say that this event was quite unacceptable and unfair that this happened to her.
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Postby The Shady Looking Vukmiri Delegates » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:24 pm

Gauthier wrote:
The Shady Looking Vukmiri Delegates wrote:Fair retribution for what her and her colleagues did to the Ghostbusters franchise and movie. :lol2:


So if someone capitalizes on the doxx and injures or kills her you'd call that fair retribution as well?

If someone (Hacked Victim) commits a crime (Association in the making of the terrible movie) then that would possibly leave them open to "Vigilante justice" as I would call it, it's fair game now. :ugeek:

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:24 pm

The Shady Looking Vukmiri Delegates wrote:Fair retribution for what her and her colleagues did to the Ghostbusters franchise and movie. :lol2:


Yes, God forbid that an actress who seems to be breaking big after spending literally decades in shitty comedy clubs dare to take a role in a reworking of a movie that came out a quarter century ago when a small band of misogynists, racists, and general nitwits of all stripes take serious offense to such a thing. She obviously should have expected to have her nude photos and private identity information posted for all the world do see as a result of this, and as a result of actually bothering to complain to Twitter when she was being harassed with racist and sexist insults on that platform. After all, hacking is a reasonable response as an alternative to simply not seeing the movie, like everyone else who didn't care for the idea of the film.

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Postby Uiiop » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:25 pm

Greater Orensta wrote:
Uiiop wrote:Then can you at least give a reason why you don't care about this?

it happens all the time, doesn't affect me, or you, so why do you care?

Because those things still don't subtract that it's still horrible that it happened. I'm also care because it representatives how messed conversations get.
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Postby Greater Orensta » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:25 pm

The Shady Looking Vukmiri Delegates wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
So if someone capitalizes on the doxx and injures or kills her you'd call that fair retribution as well?

If someone (Hacked Victim) commits a crime (Association in the making of the terrible movie) then that would possibly leave them open to "Vigilante justice" as I would call it, it's fair game now. :ugeek:

That's not how that works, making a terrible movie is not a crime, as much as you hate said movie
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:25 pm

New confederate ramenia wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
My criticism and mockery was directed entirely towards the people involved in the actual hacking, and to a lesser degree towards those who participated in the initial harassment, as I think should be perfectly clear to anyone reading my post. If you thought that this somehow was an attack on alt-rightists in general, then I suggest you re-read the OP.

I wasn't criticizing you, I was criticizing what always happens in threads like these. Your OP was actually really good.


Oh, okay. Sorry. I think that I just got a bit tetchy, there.

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Postby Uiiop » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:27 pm

The Shady Looking Vukmiri Delegates wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
So if someone capitalizes on the doxx and injures or kills her you'd call that fair retribution as well?

If someone (Hacked Victim) commits a crime (Association in the making of the terrible movie) then that would possibly leave them open to "Vigilante justice" as I would call it, it's fair game now. :ugeek:

Making shit ain't a crime...especially shit no one can't make of their minds that it is shit.
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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:27 pm

The Shady Looking Vukmiri Delegates wrote:Fair retribution for what her and her colleagues did to the Ghostbusters franchise and movie. :lol2:


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Postby Uiiop » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:28 pm

New confederate ramenia wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
My criticism and mockery was directed entirely towards the people involved in the actual hacking, and to a lesser degree towards those who participated in the initial harassment, as I think should be perfectly clear to anyone reading my post. If you thought that this somehow was an attack on alt-rightists in general, then I suggest you re-read the OP.

I wasn't criticizing you, I was criticizing what always happens in threads like these. Your OP was actually really good.

*Sigh*
In that case you have a point...That's part of what i meant by "The conversation is messed up."
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Postby The Shady Looking Vukmiri Delegates » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:28 pm

Greater Orensta wrote:
The Shady Looking Vukmiri Delegates wrote:If someone (Hacked Victim) commits a crime (Association in the making of the terrible movie) then that would possibly leave them open to "Vigilante justice" as I would call it, it's fair game now. :ugeek:

That's not how that works, making a terrible movie is not a crime, as much as you hate said movie

There are a lot of nutjobs out there and people who worship these cult classics like gods, and tainting them like seeing did was bound to get some people angry, if I were her I would've seen it coming a mile away. :rofl:

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