Actress Leslie Jones Hacked, Private Info Leaked

[Shonburg]

You don't know that it won't. Besides, this could also be proof that the DHS is going to start taking on more cases like this.

It won't. Just like investigating and prosecuting rapists doesn't deter rapists from raping people.

The DHS shouldn't be investigating this.

It does deter rape actually. The numbers have been in decline.

[Thaerania]

That is criminals going and stealing humans to extort money, this is a teenager sitting behind a computer typing code.

Them being a teenager does not make them any less of a criminal. Besides, most no-lifes who doxx people would piss and shit themselves if the DHS came a'knocking precisely because they are bratty teenagers. So yes, the idea that a federal agency is willing to hunt you down for "hax0rz guyz" will deter some of them, and in the future, maybe most of them.

Even if it manages to deter teenage script kiddies, there are still organized hacker groups like Anonymous and Lulzsec that have had many members arrested in FBI raids, Didn't deter them at all.

[Minzerland]

It won't. Just like investigating and prosecuting rapists doesn't deter rapists from raping people.

The DHS shouldn't be investigating this.

If it falls within their purview, then why not? A good high-profile prosecution and forcing some neckbeard to actually do time might put the fear of God into a couple of them, at least.

Sure, the majority won't however. This beats the purpose of their department, this isn't a threat to national security.

[Shonburg]

Them being a teenager does not make them any less of a criminal. Besides, most no-lifes who doxx people would piss and shit themselves if the DHS came a'knocking precisely because they are bratty teenagers. So yes, the idea that a federal agency is willing to hunt you down for "hax0rz guyz" will deter some of them, and in the future, maybe most of them.

Even if it manages to deter teenage script kiddies, there are still organized hacker groups like Anonymous and Lulzsec that have had many members arrested in FBI raids, Didn't deter them at all.

Hahahahaha, Anon is not organized, precisely because of the word in their name. And Lulzsec isn't 'organized' in any real sense either.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Local authorities should handle a federal crime?

Homeland security should be investigating something that doesn't alter homeland security?

What do you think homeland security is, exactly? Do you think that they just investigate possible acts of foreign terrorism? No, their assigned duties are much broader than that, from dealing with drug smuggling to investigating and arresting child pornographers and those who traffic in child pornography. In fact, internet security as a whole is under their commission, which means that this is their case if they want to work it.

[Shonburg]

If it falls within their purview, then why not? A good high-profile prosecution and forcing some neckbeard to actually do time might put the fear of God into a couple of them, at least.

Sure, the majority won't however.

You don't know that.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Them being a teenager does not make them any less of a criminal. Besides, most no-lifes who doxx people would piss and shit themselves if the DHS came a'knocking precisely because they are bratty teenagers. So yes, the idea that a federal agency is willing to hunt you down for "hax0rz guyz" will deter some of them, and in the future, maybe most of them.

Even if it manages to deter teenage script kiddies, there are still organized hacker groups like Anonymous and Lulzsec that have had many members arrested in FBI raids, Didn't deter them at all.

And arresting terrorists doesn't keep more terrorists from popping up, but they keep doing that, too.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

If it falls within their purview, then why not? A good high-profile prosecution and forcing some neckbeard to actually do time might put the fear of God into a couple of them, at least.

Sure, the majority won't however.

Absolutely. But keep pulling at that thread, and soon you'll be asking yourself why we bother to enforce any laws whatsoever.

[Thaerania]

Even if it manages to deter teenage script kiddies, there are still organized hacker groups like Anonymous and Lulzsec that have had many members arrested in FBI raids, Didn't deter them at all.

Hahahahaha, Anon is not organized, precisely because of the word in their name. And Lulzsec isn't 'organized' in any real sense either.

They are still groups of hackers, neither of which have been deterred. But go ahead and ignore my argument.

[Shonburg]

Hahahahaha, Anon is not organized, precisely because of the word in their name. And Lulzsec isn't 'organized' in any real sense either.

They are still groups of hackers, neither of which have been deterred. But go ahead and ignore my argument.

Anyone can claim to be a member of Anon or Lulzsec, which is why their 'organizations' haven't been deterred.

[Thaerania]

They are still groups of hackers, neither of which have been deterred. But go ahead and ignore my argument.

Anyone can claim to be a member of Anon or Lulzsec, which is why their 'organizations' haven't been deterred.

Either way, hackers haven't been deterred.

[CoraSpia]

Hahahahaha, Anon is not organized, precisely because of the word in their name. And Lulzsec isn't 'organized' in any real sense either.

They are still groups of hackers, neither of which have been deterred. But go ahead and ignore my argument.

I'd go one step further here.

It's actually likely to embolden hackers of low-level targets. If it's become obvious that the DHS only go after hackers of celebrities, it's going to reinforce the fact that hackers of ordinary people generally get away with it.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

They are still groups of hackers, neither of which have been deterred. But go ahead and ignore my argument.

Anyone can claim to be a member of Anon or Lulzsec, which is why their 'organizations' haven't been deterred.

Exactly. The people from Anonymous who do such a great job going after bad faith players on the world stage or in the market are probably a different group of people from the ones who doxxed my friend for managing to get some minor internet notoriety for this song. Seriously, they had people calling his work and telling his boss he was a child molester. Jesus.

[Neo Bavaria]

Hahahahaha, Anon is not organized, precisely because of the word in their name. And Lulzsec isn't 'organized' in any real sense either.

They are still groups of hackers, neither of which have been deterred. But go ahead and ignore my argument.

"Group" is not the word to use. It's not anything, it's a title. It's for prestige points and nothing else. If you're some 16 yo "hacker" who has a chip on his shoulder over some issue or another and you want attention, you post a video on youtube saying that "Anonymous is coming after xyz" and suddenly everyone's all freaked out because "Oh, Anonymous is coming after us!"

Anyone can do these things, they just that it was "Anonymous" because it sounds spooky and mysterious and suddenly they're on CNN instead of a one paragraph blurb on A10 of the New York Times.

[Minzerland]

Homeland security should be investigating something that doesn't alter homeland security?

What do you think homeland security is, exactly? Do you think that they just investigate possible acts of foreign terrorism? No, their assigned duties are much broader than that, from dealing with drug smuggling to investigating and arresting child pornographers and those who traffic in child pornography. In fact, internet security as a whole is under their commission, which means that this is their case if they want to work it.

Their job is to secure the homeland not to look into crimes of this nature, leave that to the FBI and the local authorities.

[Minzerland]

It won't. Just like investigating and prosecuting rapists doesn't deter rapists from raping people.

The DHS shouldn't be investigating this.

It does deter rape actually. The numbers have been in decline.

Prove it, the numbers may be declining but do you haven't given me evidence as to why they're declining?

[Shonburg]

What do you think homeland security is, exactly? Do you think that they just investigate possible acts of foreign terrorism? No, their assigned duties are much broader than that, from dealing with drug smuggling to investigating and arresting child pornographers and those who traffic in child pornography. In fact, internet security as a whole is under their commission, which means that this is their case if they want to work it.

Their job is to secure the homeland not to look into crimes of this nature, leave that to the FBI and the local authorities.

Part of their literal job, as prescribed by POTUS and the USC, is to look into crimes of this nature.

[Neo Bavaria]

Anyone can claim to be a member of Anon or Lulzsec, which is why their 'organizations' haven't been deterred.

Exactly. The people from Anonymous who do such a great job going after bad faith players on the world stage or in the market are probably a different group of people from the ones who doxxed my friend for managing to get some minor internet notoriety for this song. Seriously, they had people calling his work and telling his boss he was a child molester. Jesus.

You're still treating it like it's an actual organization. If you know where to look getting brute force scripts or other cheap, effective tools is exceptionally easy, especially given that most corporations are just downright awful or don't even care about information security. These aren't elite, deep throat, shadow-speaking cabalists, they're angsty teenagers pissed off about one thing or another.

Anonymous is literally the internet equivalent of a greasy-haired teenager waving around his cheap imported katana and making Facebook posts about having a "light and dark side".

[CoraSpia]

Anyone can claim to be a member of Anon or Lulzsec, which is why their 'organizations' haven't been deterred.

Exactly. The people from Anonymous who do such a great job going after bad faith players on the world stage or in the market are probably a different group of people from the ones who doxxed my friend for managing to get some minor internet notoriety for this song. Seriously, they had people calling his work and telling his boss he was a child molester. Jesus.

How did the DHS help your friend?

[Yumyumsuppertime]

What do you think homeland security is, exactly? Do you think that they just investigate possible acts of foreign terrorism? No, their assigned duties are much broader than that, from dealing with drug smuggling to investigating and arresting child pornographers and those who traffic in child pornography. In fact, internet security as a whole is under their commission, which means that this is their case if they want to work it.

Their job is to secure the homeland not to look into crimes of this nature, leave that to the FBI and the local authorities.

The Department Of Homeland Security disagrees with your limited assessment of their responsibilities.

Today’s world is more interconnected than ever before. Yet, for all its advantages, increased connectivity brings increased risk of theft, fraud, and abuse. As Americans become more reliant on modern technology, we also become more vulnerable to cyberattacks such as corporate security breaches, spear phishing, and social media fraud. Complementary cybersecurity and law enforcement capabilities are critical to safeguarding and securing cyberspace. Law enforcement performs an essential role in achieving our nation’s cybersecurity objectives by investigating a wide range of cyber crimes, from theft and fraud to child exploitation, and apprehending and prosecuting those responsible. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) works with other federal agencies to conduct high-impact criminal investigations to disrupt and defeat cyber criminals, prioritize the recruitment and training of technical experts, develop standardized methods, and broadly share cyber response best practices and tools. Criminal investigators and network security experts with deep understanding of the technologies malicious actors are using and the specific vulnerabilities they are targeting work to effectively respond to and investigate cyber incidents.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Exactly. The people from Anonymous who do such a great job going after bad faith players on the world stage or in the market are probably a different group of people from the ones who doxxed my friend for managing to get some minor internet notoriety for this song. Seriously, they had people calling his work and telling his boss he was a child molester. Jesus.

You're still treating it like it's an actual organization. If you know where to look getting brute force scripts or other cheap, effective tools is exceptionally easy, especially given that most corporations are just downright awful or don't even care about information security. These aren't elite, deep throat, shadow-speaking cabalists, they're angsty teenagers pissed off about one thing or another.

Anonymous is literally the internet equivalent of a greasy-haired teenager waving around his cheap imported katana and making Facebook posts about having a "light and dark side".

I apologize if that's how it came across. My point was that it was made up of a number of different people due to the fact that anyone can take the name, and claim to be operating under the banner. There is no "real" Anonymous.

[Neo Bavaria]

Their job is to secure the homeland not to look into crimes of this nature, leave that to the FBI and the local authorities.

Part of their literal job, as prescribed by POTUS and the USC, is to look into crimes of this nature.

US naval destroyers just opened fire on a group of Iranian gunboats, and you think that the Department of Homeland Security's priority right now should be to investigate pictures of a B-grade actress's vagina being leaked onto the internet? There are, possibly literally, a million more important things that they could be doing with taxpayer money than this.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Exactly. The people from Anonymous who do such a great job going after bad faith players on the world stage or in the market are probably a different group of people from the ones who doxxed my friend for managing to get some minor internet notoriety for this song. Seriously, they had people calling his work and telling his boss he was a child molester. Jesus.

How did the DHS help your friend?

This wasn't a crime that involved computer hacking, identity theft, or fraud, so it wasn't under their purview.

[Thaerania]

Part of their literal job, as prescribed by POTUS and the USC, is to look into crimes of this nature.

US naval destroyers just opened fire on a group of Iranian gunboats, and you think that the Department of Homeland Security's priority right now should be to investigate pictures of a B-grade actress's vagina being leaked onto the internet? There are, possibly literally, a million more important things that they could be doing with taxpayer money than this.

^

[Neo Bavaria]

How did the DHS help your friend?

This wasn't a crime that involved computer hacking, identity theft, or fraud, so it wasn't under their purview.

An Armenian named Garik stole my steam account, should I give the DHS a call so they can investigate that too?