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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:33 pm

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Herskerstad wrote:The fuck? Homeland security investigating this?

Don't they have bigger things to be doing than kissing some celebrity's ass? We need to stop treating celebrities like gods.


The hacker or hackers are in violation of a number of federal laws. I could be wrong, but I believe that the specific crimes that were allegedly committed fall under Homeland's purview.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:34 pm

Coraspia wrote:Obviously this is bad and everything, and is part of what make the right look bad, but that's hardly a groundbreaking comment and I wouldn't have bothered posting if I hadn't just seen this.

“I have to say, as a human being, it’s heartbreaking,” Dr. Tynes said. “As a researcher, I haven’t seen in the adolescents I study anything this heinous.”

What? Seriously, what? I went to a private school, not exactly a rough environment. If someone got a hold of a nudge photo of you though, you had to be very nice to that person for a good long while or else facebook would have it. This isn't some sort of strange new thing, this is just the sort of bullshit idiots on the internet have been doing since their were idiots on the internet to do it.


That's actually a fair point. Also, while the doctor may have studied adolescents, I doubt that the studies were on adolescents getting up to mischief online, with all of the anonymity that promises.

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Postby Thaerania » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:35 pm

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Thaerania wrote:Define appropriate.

Perceived as being in some means equal in value to the relevant context.

You can't actually define appropriate, it's a completely subjective term.
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Postby Thaerania » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:37 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Thaerania wrote:Don't they have bigger things to be doing than kissing some celebrity's ass? We need to stop treating celebrities like gods.


The hacker or hackers are in violation of a number of federal laws. I could be wrong, but I believe that the specific crimes that were allegedly committed fall under Homeland's purview.

Homeland Security is supposed to stop internal threats like terrorists, not some bored teenagers hacking twitter accounts.
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Postby CoraSpia » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:38 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Coraspia wrote:Obviously this is bad and everything, and is part of what make the right look bad, but that's hardly a groundbreaking comment and I wouldn't have bothered posting if I hadn't just seen this.

“I have to say, as a human being, it’s heartbreaking,” Dr. Tynes said. “As a researcher, I haven’t seen in the adolescents I study anything this heinous.”

What? Seriously, what? I went to a private school, not exactly a rough environment. If someone got a hold of a nudge photo of you though, you had to be very nice to that person for a good long while or else facebook would have it. This isn't some sort of strange new thing, this is just the sort of bullshit idiots on the internet have been doing since their were idiots on the internet to do it.


That's actually a fair point. Also, while the doctor may have studied adolescents, I doubt that the studies were on adolescents getting up to mischief online, with all of the anonymity that promises.

Teenagers are one of the groups who invest in proxy servers the most, actually.
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Postby CoraSpia » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:39 pm

Thaerania wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
The hacker or hackers are in violation of a number of federal laws. I could be wrong, but I believe that the specific crimes that were allegedly committed fall under Homeland's purview.

Homeland Security is supposed to stop internal threats like terrorists, not some bored teenagers hacking twitter accounts.

It should be investigated, but maybe DHS is going a bit far...
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Postby Kanaria » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:39 pm

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Kanaria wrote:Perceived as being in some means equal in value to the relevant context.

You can't actually define appropriate, it's a completely subjective term.

If that were the case, then the word would be meaningless.
It has meaning, as evinced through its' usage.
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Coraspia wrote:Obviously this is bad and everything, and is part of what make the right look bad, but that's hardly a groundbreaking comment and I wouldn't have bothered posting if I hadn't just seen this.

“I have to say, as a human being, it’s heartbreaking,” Dr. Tynes said. “As a researcher, I haven’t seen in the adolescents I study anything this heinous.”

What? Seriously, what? I went to a private school, not exactly a rough environment. If someone got a hold of a nudge photo of you though, you had to be very nice to that person for a good long while or else facebook would have it. This isn't some sort of strange new thing, this is just the sort of bullshit idiots on the internet have been doing since their were idiots on the internet to do it.


That's actually a fair point. Also, while the doctor may have studied adolescents, I doubt that the studies were on adolescents getting up to mischief online, with all of the anonymity that promises.

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Postby CoraSpia » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:40 pm

36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Coraspia wrote:Obviously this is bad and everything, and is part of what make the right look bad, but that's hardly a groundbreaking comment and I wouldn't have bothered posting if I hadn't just seen this.

“I have to say, as a human being, it’s heartbreaking,” Dr. Tynes said. “As a researcher, I haven’t seen in the adolescents I study anything this heinous.”

What? Seriously, what? I went to a private school, not exactly a rough environment. If someone got a hold of a nudge photo of you though, you had to be very nice to that person for a good long while or else facebook would have it. This isn't some sort of strange new thing, this is just the sort of bullshit idiots on the internet have been doing since their were idiots on the internet to do it.


Was it normal for students at your school to hack into other student's online information?

For one girl. She was called Abi. She only got caught out for it once.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:40 pm

Thaerania wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
The hacker or hackers are in violation of a number of federal laws. I could be wrong, but I believe that the specific crimes that were allegedly committed fall under Homeland's purview.

Homeland Security is supposed to stop internal threats like terrorists, not some bored teenagers hacking twitter accounts.


While terrorism is probably their most well-known focus, they actually take on a number of duties.

Homeland Security works to prevent terrorism and enhance security by screening passengers at airports; conducting waterborne patrols; monitoring radiation portal monitors; training law enforcement and federal agents; reviewing intelligence information to ward off potential threats; and evaluating reports of suspicious activities in the United States and globally, explains the Department of Homeland Security. Homeland Security also monitors U.S. borders by inspecting travelers, seizing narcotics and illegal materials and managing vessels through the Marine Transportation System.

In addition, Homeland Security enforces immigration laws by seizing undeclared currency at borders, litigating cases in immigration courts, processing applications for immigration benefits and naturalizing new U.S. citizens, notes the Department of Homeland Security. Safeguarding cyberspace is another role of Homeland Security by investigating cyber threats, developing education curriculum for cyber risk mitigation and providing on-site support to information technology specialists. Disaster recovery response is also under the purview of Homeland Security. Homeland Security works to provide support for communities during natural disasters by training its employees to provide emergency assistance when working with weapons of mass destruction; agriculture and food protection; and citizen preparedness.


Emphasis mine.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:41 pm

Coraspia wrote:
Thaerania wrote:Homeland Security is supposed to stop internal threats like terrorists, not some bored teenagers hacking twitter accounts.

It should be investigated, but maybe DHS is going a bit far...


See my response above. They're the ones tasked with investigating these matters.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:43 pm

Kanaria wrote:
Thaerania wrote:You can't actually define appropriate, it's a completely subjective term.

If that were the case, then the word would be meaningless.
It has meaning, as evinced through its' usage.
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
That's actually a fair point. Also, while the doctor may have studied adolescents, I doubt that the studies were on adolescents getting up to mischief online, with all of the anonymity that promises.

Edward Hyde comes out of the closet.


Hah! I knew it! Bet he's one of Wilde's associates.....

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Postby Thaerania » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:43 pm

Kanaria wrote:
Thaerania wrote:You can't actually define appropriate, it's a completely subjective term.

If that were the case, then the word would be meaningless.
It has meaning, as evinced through its' usage.

It has meaning, however you can't define what fits into that meaning. Just like you can make art, but you can't judge whether it is good or bad.
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Postby CoraSpia » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:44 pm

Kanaria wrote:
Thaerania wrote:You can't actually define appropriate, it's a completely subjective term.

If that were the case, then the word would be meaningless.
It has meaning, as evinced through its' usage.
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
That's actually a fair point. Also, while the doctor may have studied adolescents, I doubt that the studies were on adolescents getting up to mischief online, with all of the anonymity that promises.

Edward Hyde comes out of the closet.

Inappropriate/appropriate is something that's spewed around when what it really needs to be is 'unwelcome/welcome.' For example, my racist friend (we've all got one), once told a rather shocked debate society that he would not employ a muslim.
Shouting matches across the floor between the president and secretary of the debate society (what followed) are farely inappropriate. However, when I here that it is 'inappropriate' for someone to make an offensive comment, which was absolutely sincere and on topic, I felt I should say something. The president was not re-elected. I was.
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Postby Thaerania » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:44 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Thaerania wrote:Homeland Security is supposed to stop internal threats like terrorists, not some bored teenagers hacking twitter accounts.


While terrorism is probably their most well-known focus, they actually take on a number of duties.

Homeland Security works to prevent terrorism and enhance security by screening passengers at airports; conducting waterborne patrols; monitoring radiation portal monitors; training law enforcement and federal agents; reviewing intelligence information to ward off potential threats; and evaluating reports of suspicious activities in the United States and globally, explains the Department of Homeland Security. Homeland Security also monitors U.S. borders by inspecting travelers, seizing narcotics and illegal materials and managing vessels through the Marine Transportation System.

In addition, Homeland Security enforces immigration laws by seizing undeclared currency at borders, litigating cases in immigration courts, processing applications for immigration benefits and naturalizing new U.S. citizens, notes the Department of Homeland Security. Safeguarding cyberspace is another role of Homeland Security by investigating cyber threats, developing education curriculum for cyber risk mitigation and providing on-site support to information technology specialists. Disaster recovery response is also under the purview of Homeland Security. Homeland Security works to provide support for communities during natural disasters by training its employees to provide emergency assistance when working with weapons of mass destruction; agriculture and food protection; and citizen preparedness.


Emphasis mine.

A hacked celebrity twitter account isn't a threat to cyber security.
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Postby CoraSpia » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:46 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Thaerania wrote:Homeland Security is supposed to stop internal threats like terrorists, not some bored teenagers hacking twitter accounts.


While terrorism is probably their most well-known focus, they actually take on a number of duties.

Homeland Security works to prevent terrorism and enhance security by screening passengers at airports; conducting waterborne patrols; monitoring radiation portal monitors; training law enforcement and federal agents; reviewing intelligence information to ward off potential threats; and evaluating reports of suspicious activities in the United States and globally, explains the Department of Homeland Security. Homeland Security also monitors U.S. borders by inspecting travelers, seizing narcotics and illegal materials and managing vessels through the Marine Transportation System.

In addition, Homeland Security enforces immigration laws by seizing undeclared currency at borders, litigating cases in immigration courts, processing applications for immigration benefits and naturalizing new U.S. citizens, notes the Department of Homeland Security. Safeguarding cyberspace is another role of Homeland Security by investigating cyber threats, developing education curriculum for cyber risk mitigation and providing on-site support to information technology specialists. Disaster recovery response is also under the purview of Homeland Security. Homeland Security works to provide support for communities during natural disasters by training its employees to provide emergency assistance when working with weapons of mass destruction; agriculture and food protection; and citizen preparedness.


Emphasis mine.

It is decidedly rare though, from my experience, for homeland security to be the ones investigating online threats. It's usually some local/state office.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:49 pm

Thaerania wrote:

A hacked celebrity twitter account isn't a threat to cyber security.


It's a threat to the cyber security of the person hacked.

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Postby Kanaria » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:50 pm

Thaerania wrote:
Kanaria wrote:If that were the case, then the word would be meaningless.
It has meaning, as evinced through its' usage.

It has meaning, however you can't define what fits into that meaning. Just like you can make art, but you can't judge whether it is good or bad.

...Okay I guess...
I'm too tired to fully comprehend this.
Coraspia wrote:
Kanaria wrote:If that were the case, then the word would be meaningless.
It has meaning, as evinced through its' usage.

Edward Hyde comes out of the closet.

Inappropriate/appropriate is something that's spewed around when what it really needs to be is 'unwelcome/welcome.' For example, my racist friend (we've all got one), once told a rather shocked debate society that he would not employ a muslim.
Shouting matches across the floor between the president and secretary of the debate society (what followed) are farely inappropriate. However, when I here that it is 'inappropriate' for someone to make an offensive comment, which was absolutely sincere and on topic, I felt I should say something. The president was not re-elected. I was.

Interesting anecdote. I suppose I should incorporate its' significance into my conlang.
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Kanaria wrote:If that were the case, then the word would be meaningless.
It has meaning, as evinced through its' usage.

Edward Hyde comes out of the closet.


Hah! I knew it! Bet he's one of Wilde's associates.....

Probably is.

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Postby Gauthier » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:50 pm

Thaerania wrote:
Greater Orensta wrote:even though i lack sympathy for her, it was racist

racism
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Meanwhile, children in Africa are starving to death.


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Postby Thaerania » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:52 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Thaerania wrote:A hacked celebrity twitter account isn't a threat to cyber security.


It's a threat to the cyber security of the person hacked.

Thousands of people get hacked everyday, DHS doesn't come flying to the rescue for them.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:55 pm

Thaerania wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
It's a threat to the cyber security of the person hacked.

Thousands of people get hacked everyday, DHS doesn't come flying to the rescue for them.


That's really an argument that they should be doing more to help others, not less to help her.

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Postby Thaerania » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:57 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Thaerania wrote:Thousands of people get hacked everyday, DHS doesn't come flying to the rescue for them.


That's really an argument that they should be doing more to help others, not less to help her.

It's really an argument that the DHS shouldn't be giving famous people special treatment. A hacked twitter account isn't even a serious issue, it's one that should be handled by local authorities and not the federal government. What's next; the UN?
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Postby CoraSpia » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:57 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Thaerania wrote:Thousands of people get hacked everyday, DHS doesn't come flying to the rescue for them.


That's really an argument that they should be doing more to help others, not less to help her.

It's also an argument that it's a bit disproportionate though. Though this does come under DHS' role, they do not generally investigate this sort of matter. They are treating this as a special case.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:59 pm

Thaerania wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
That's really an argument that they should be doing more to help others, not less to help her.

It's really an argument that the DHS shouldn't be giving famous people special treatment. A hacked twitter account isn't even a serious issue, it's one that should be handled by local authorities and not the federal government. What's next; the UN?


Her Twitter account wasn't what was hacked. Her site was, and her personal information, including her driver's license and passport, were displayed on it. In addition, the hackers posted nude photos of her.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:59 pm

Coraspia wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
That's really an argument that they should be doing more to help others, not less to help her.

It's also an argument that it's a bit disproportionate though. Though this does come under DHS' role, they do not generally investigate this sort of matter. They are treating this as a special case.


Hacking and identity theft are exactly the sorts of things that they need to be involved with.

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Postby CoraSpia » Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:02 am

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Coraspia wrote:It's also an argument that it's a bit disproportionate though. Though this does come under DHS' role, they do not generally investigate this sort of matter. They are treating this as a special case.


Hacking and identity theft are exactly the sorts of things that they need to be involved with.

I'm not denying that, however it seems strange that they didn't do this for anyone else but they're doing it for her.
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