The hacker or hackers are in violation of a number of federal laws. I could be wrong, but I believe that the specific crimes that were allegedly committed fall under Homeland's purview.
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by Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:33 pm

by Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:34 pm
Coraspia wrote:Obviously this is bad and everything, and is part of what make the right look bad, but that's hardly a groundbreaking comment and I wouldn't have bothered posting if I hadn't just seen this.
“I have to say, as a human being, it’s heartbreaking,” Dr. Tynes said. “As a researcher, I haven’t seen in the adolescents I study anything this heinous.”
What? Seriously, what? I went to a private school, not exactly a rough environment. If someone got a hold of a nudge photo of you though, you had to be very nice to that person for a good long while or else facebook would have it. This isn't some sort of strange new thing, this is just the sort of bullshit idiots on the internet have been doing since their were idiots on the internet to do it.

by Thaerania » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:37 pm
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Thaerania wrote:Don't they have bigger things to be doing than kissing some celebrity's ass? We need to stop treating celebrities like gods.
The hacker or hackers are in violation of a number of federal laws. I could be wrong, but I believe that the specific crimes that were allegedly committed fall under Homeland's purview.

by CoraSpia » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:38 pm
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Coraspia wrote:Obviously this is bad and everything, and is part of what make the right look bad, but that's hardly a groundbreaking comment and I wouldn't have bothered posting if I hadn't just seen this.
“I have to say, as a human being, it’s heartbreaking,” Dr. Tynes said. “As a researcher, I haven’t seen in the adolescents I study anything this heinous.”
What? Seriously, what? I went to a private school, not exactly a rough environment. If someone got a hold of a nudge photo of you though, you had to be very nice to that person for a good long while or else facebook would have it. This isn't some sort of strange new thing, this is just the sort of bullshit idiots on the internet have been doing since their were idiots on the internet to do it.
That's actually a fair point. Also, while the doctor may have studied adolescents, I doubt that the studies were on adolescents getting up to mischief online, with all of the anonymity that promises.

by CoraSpia » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:39 pm
Thaerania wrote:Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
The hacker or hackers are in violation of a number of federal laws. I could be wrong, but I believe that the specific crimes that were allegedly committed fall under Homeland's purview.
Homeland Security is supposed to stop internal threats like terrorists, not some bored teenagers hacking twitter accounts.

by Kanaria » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:39 pm
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Coraspia wrote:Obviously this is bad and everything, and is part of what make the right look bad, but that's hardly a groundbreaking comment and I wouldn't have bothered posting if I hadn't just seen this.
“I have to say, as a human being, it’s heartbreaking,” Dr. Tynes said. “As a researcher, I haven’t seen in the adolescents I study anything this heinous.”
What? Seriously, what? I went to a private school, not exactly a rough environment. If someone got a hold of a nudge photo of you though, you had to be very nice to that person for a good long while or else facebook would have it. This isn't some sort of strange new thing, this is just the sort of bullshit idiots on the internet have been doing since their were idiots on the internet to do it.
That's actually a fair point. Also, while the doctor may have studied adolescents, I doubt that the studies were on adolescents getting up to mischief online, with all of the anonymity that promises.

by CoraSpia » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:40 pm
36 Camera Perspective wrote:Coraspia wrote:Obviously this is bad and everything, and is part of what make the right look bad, but that's hardly a groundbreaking comment and I wouldn't have bothered posting if I hadn't just seen this.
“I have to say, as a human being, it’s heartbreaking,” Dr. Tynes said. “As a researcher, I haven’t seen in the adolescents I study anything this heinous.”
What? Seriously, what? I went to a private school, not exactly a rough environment. If someone got a hold of a nudge photo of you though, you had to be very nice to that person for a good long while or else facebook would have it. This isn't some sort of strange new thing, this is just the sort of bullshit idiots on the internet have been doing since their were idiots on the internet to do it.
Was it normal for students at your school to hack into other student's online information?

by Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:40 pm
Thaerania wrote:Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
The hacker or hackers are in violation of a number of federal laws. I could be wrong, but I believe that the specific crimes that were allegedly committed fall under Homeland's purview.
Homeland Security is supposed to stop internal threats like terrorists, not some bored teenagers hacking twitter accounts.
Homeland Security works to prevent terrorism and enhance security by screening passengers at airports; conducting waterborne patrols; monitoring radiation portal monitors; training law enforcement and federal agents; reviewing intelligence information to ward off potential threats; and evaluating reports of suspicious activities in the United States and globally, explains the Department of Homeland Security. Homeland Security also monitors U.S. borders by inspecting travelers, seizing narcotics and illegal materials and managing vessels through the Marine Transportation System.
In addition, Homeland Security enforces immigration laws by seizing undeclared currency at borders, litigating cases in immigration courts, processing applications for immigration benefits and naturalizing new U.S. citizens, notes the Department of Homeland Security. Safeguarding cyberspace is another role of Homeland Security by investigating cyber threats, developing education curriculum for cyber risk mitigation and providing on-site support to information technology specialists. Disaster recovery response is also under the purview of Homeland Security. Homeland Security works to provide support for communities during natural disasters by training its employees to provide emergency assistance when working with weapons of mass destruction; agriculture and food protection; and citizen preparedness.

by Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:41 pm

by Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:43 pm
Kanaria wrote:Thaerania wrote:You can't actually define appropriate, it's a completely subjective term.
If that were the case, then the word would be meaningless.
It has meaning, as evinced through its' usage.Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
That's actually a fair point. Also, while the doctor may have studied adolescents, I doubt that the studies were on adolescents getting up to mischief online, with all of the anonymity that promises.
Edward Hyde comes out of the closet.

by Thaerania » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:43 pm

by CoraSpia » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:44 pm
Kanaria wrote:Thaerania wrote:You can't actually define appropriate, it's a completely subjective term.
If that were the case, then the word would be meaningless.
It has meaning, as evinced through its' usage.Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
That's actually a fair point. Also, while the doctor may have studied adolescents, I doubt that the studies were on adolescents getting up to mischief online, with all of the anonymity that promises.
Edward Hyde comes out of the closet.

by Thaerania » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:44 pm
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Thaerania wrote:Homeland Security is supposed to stop internal threats like terrorists, not some bored teenagers hacking twitter accounts.
While terrorism is probably their most well-known focus, they actually take on a number of duties.Homeland Security works to prevent terrorism and enhance security by screening passengers at airports; conducting waterborne patrols; monitoring radiation portal monitors; training law enforcement and federal agents; reviewing intelligence information to ward off potential threats; and evaluating reports of suspicious activities in the United States and globally, explains the Department of Homeland Security. Homeland Security also monitors U.S. borders by inspecting travelers, seizing narcotics and illegal materials and managing vessels through the Marine Transportation System.
In addition, Homeland Security enforces immigration laws by seizing undeclared currency at borders, litigating cases in immigration courts, processing applications for immigration benefits and naturalizing new U.S. citizens, notes the Department of Homeland Security. Safeguarding cyberspace is another role of Homeland Security by investigating cyber threats, developing education curriculum for cyber risk mitigation and providing on-site support to information technology specialists. Disaster recovery response is also under the purview of Homeland Security. Homeland Security works to provide support for communities during natural disasters by training its employees to provide emergency assistance when working with weapons of mass destruction; agriculture and food protection; and citizen preparedness.
Emphasis mine.

by CoraSpia » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:46 pm
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Thaerania wrote:Homeland Security is supposed to stop internal threats like terrorists, not some bored teenagers hacking twitter accounts.
While terrorism is probably their most well-known focus, they actually take on a number of duties.Homeland Security works to prevent terrorism and enhance security by screening passengers at airports; conducting waterborne patrols; monitoring radiation portal monitors; training law enforcement and federal agents; reviewing intelligence information to ward off potential threats; and evaluating reports of suspicious activities in the United States and globally, explains the Department of Homeland Security. Homeland Security also monitors U.S. borders by inspecting travelers, seizing narcotics and illegal materials and managing vessels through the Marine Transportation System.
In addition, Homeland Security enforces immigration laws by seizing undeclared currency at borders, litigating cases in immigration courts, processing applications for immigration benefits and naturalizing new U.S. citizens, notes the Department of Homeland Security. Safeguarding cyberspace is another role of Homeland Security by investigating cyber threats, developing education curriculum for cyber risk mitigation and providing on-site support to information technology specialists. Disaster recovery response is also under the purview of Homeland Security. Homeland Security works to provide support for communities during natural disasters by training its employees to provide emergency assistance when working with weapons of mass destruction; agriculture and food protection; and citizen preparedness.
Emphasis mine.

by Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:49 pm
Thaerania wrote:Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
While terrorism is probably their most well-known focus, they actually take on a number of duties.
Emphasis mine.
A hacked celebrity twitter account isn't a threat to cyber security.

by Kanaria » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:50 pm
Coraspia wrote:Kanaria wrote:If that were the case, then the word would be meaningless.
It has meaning, as evinced through its' usage.
Edward Hyde comes out of the closet.
Inappropriate/appropriate is something that's spewed around when what it really needs to be is 'unwelcome/welcome.' For example, my racist friend (we've all got one), once told a rather shocked debate society that he would not employ a muslim.
Shouting matches across the floor between the president and secretary of the debate society (what followed) are farely inappropriate. However, when I here that it is 'inappropriate' for someone to make an offensive comment, which was absolutely sincere and on topic, I felt I should say something. The president was not re-elected. I was.

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by Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:59 pm
Thaerania wrote:Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
That's really an argument that they should be doing more to help others, not less to help her.
It's really an argument that the DHS shouldn't be giving famous people special treatment. A hacked twitter account isn't even a serious issue, it's one that should be handled by local authorities and not the federal government. What's next; the UN?

by Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 25, 2016 11:59 pm
Coraspia wrote:Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
That's really an argument that they should be doing more to help others, not less to help her.
It's also an argument that it's a bit disproportionate though. Though this does come under DHS' role, they do not generally investigate this sort of matter. They are treating this as a special case.

by CoraSpia » Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:02 am
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Coraspia wrote:It's also an argument that it's a bit disproportionate though. Though this does come under DHS' role, they do not generally investigate this sort of matter. They are treating this as a special case.
Hacking and identity theft are exactly the sorts of things that they need to be involved with.
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