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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:53 pm

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Uiiop wrote:True except with the gender flick idea and the trailer going on there was a expectation of them failing that standard before release. I mean it wasn't great but it doesn't ruin shit...and anyone who says that should have been screwed the previous times this happened.


I think with the audience who loved the original felt that this entire flick was about "Men Drool, Girls Rule" and as far as I can tell that was basically it, except surprisingly enough they even re-enforced black women stereotypes, another thing that probably annoyed fans was probably how they whipped the slat clean, instead they should have probably made the cast related to the original 4, and have it set after the first few movies, the fans probably wouldn't have cared if they did that.

Oh and that debocal when it came to the director basically calling anyone who hates the movie. Misogynists and bigots.....sheesh...that was not a good Idea on his part.


All of that is perfectly fair criticism, whether I agree with it or not.

Too bad a number of assholes had to turn it into a quasi-religious crusade to take down one actress.

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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:53 pm

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A whole will never be formed without the parts.

i could discover a medical condition and stop it at it's source, but have no influence of society


Yes, you do. At the very least, you have potential that you haven't yet fully actualized into actual influence.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:53 pm

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I mean, people get doxxed for stupider shit, but why are we supposed to get bent out of shape for an actress that got into a bitch contest with Milo Yiannopolis?

if you're trying to out Sass a gay man, you must have a pretty cruel handicap.


She didn't get into a bitch contest with him. She responded to racist and sexist criticism from a number of sources. He then got involved, and that caused it to get out of control.

Seriously. She was being targeted for massive harassment by assholes for daring to be in a movie that they didn't want to see made, and she wasn't even one of the main characters in it.


Funny how nobody points out none of the other female leads got even a fraction of the harassment Jones received. It's like the whole thing is racially-based.
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Postby The balkens » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:53 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
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I mean, people get doxxed for stupider shit, but why are we supposed to get bent out of shape for an actress that got into a bitch contest with Milo Yiannopolis?

if you're trying to out Sass a gay man, you must have a pretty cruel handicap.


She didn't get into a bitch contest with him. She responded to racist and sexist criticism from a number of sources. He then got involved, and that caused it to get out of control.

Seriously. She was being targeted for massive harassment by assholes for daring to be in a movie that they didn't want to see made, and she wasn't even one of the main characters in it.


>Implying it wasnt out of control in the first place

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Postby Felrik » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:54 pm

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I think with the audience who loved the original felt that this entire flick was about "Men Drool, Girls Rule" and as far as I can tell that was basically it, except surprisingly enough they even re-enforced black women stereotypes, another thing that probably annoyed fans was probably how they whipped the slat clean, instead they should have probably made the cast related to the original 4, and have it set after the first few movies, the fans probably wouldn't have cared if they did that.


I don't like reboots in general and the exceptions would have to be pretty damn good. If they had made the women franchisees I doubt there would have been as much bitching from fanboys.


I understood the first sentence and I agree, but the second one to me looks incoherent, could you perhaps re-phrase that please, sorry.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:54 pm

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Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
She didn't get into a bitch contest with him. She responded to racist and sexist criticism from a number of sources. He then got involved, and that caused it to get out of control.

Seriously. She was being targeted for massive harassment by assholes for daring to be in a movie that they didn't want to see made, and she wasn't even one of the main characters in it.


>Implying it wasnt out of control in the first place


Whenever it got out of control, it was a completely outsized and disproportionate response to the actual perceived offense.

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Postby Uiiop » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:55 pm

Felrik wrote:
Uiiop wrote:True except with the gender flick idea and the trailer going on there was a expectation of them failing that standard before release. I mean it wasn't great but it doesn't ruin shit...and anyone who says that should have been screwed the previous times this happened.


I think with the audience who loved the original felt that this entire flick was about "Men Drool, Girls Rule" and as far as I can tell that was basically it, except surprisingly enough they even re-enforced black women stereotypes, another thing that probably annoyed fans was probably how they whipped the slat clean, instead they should have probably made the cast related to the original 4, and have it set after the first few movies, the fans probably wouldn't have cared if they did that.

Oh and that debocal when it came to the director basically calling anyone who hates the movie. Misogynists and bigots.....sheesh...that was not a good Idea on his part.

Having seen it nope that's not what happened. I mean i may see where the first part of that comes from [The villain is basically a caricature of all the "haters". but it doesn't really spend time on Man vs Women....and however poorly written for a villain and stupid a caricature...it actually tries to show some sympathy for him.] but Gender was hardly a theme.
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Postby Greater Orensta » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:55 pm

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Greater Orensta wrote:i could discover a medical condition and stop it at it's source, but have no influence of society


Yes, you do. At the very least, you have potential that you haven't yet fully actualized into actual influence.

and you're the one calling people edgy
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:55 pm

Felrik wrote:
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I don't like reboots in general and the exceptions would have to be pretty damn good. If they had made the women franchisees I doubt there would have been as much bitching from fanboys.


I understood the first sentence and I agree, but the second one to me looks incoherent, could you perhaps re-phrase that please, sorry.


If the women had started up a Ghostbusters franchise, like 7/11.
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Postby Felrik » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:55 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Felrik wrote:
I think with the audience who loved the original felt that this entire flick was about "Men Drool, Girls Rule" and as far as I can tell that was basically it, except surprisingly enough they even re-enforced black women stereotypes, another thing that probably annoyed fans was probably how they whipped the slat clean, instead they should have probably made the cast related to the original 4, and have it set after the first few movies, the fans probably wouldn't have cared if they did that.

Oh and that debocal when it came to the director basically calling anyone who hates the movie. Misogynists and bigots.....sheesh...that was not a good Idea on his part.


All of that is perfectly fair criticism, whether I agree with it or not.

Too bad a number of assholes had to turn it into a quasi-religious crusade to take down one actress.


I don't know why they aimed at her though, maybe the trolls knew she was an easy target, easy to get controversy.
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:56 pm

Felrik wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
All of that is perfectly fair criticism, whether I agree with it or not.

Too bad a number of assholes had to turn it into a quasi-religious crusade to take down one actress.


I don't know why they aimed at her though, maybe the trolls knew she was an easy target, easy to get controversy.


Lazy racism. If it was about getting pissed at the reboot the entire female cast would have been harassed, not just her.
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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:56 pm

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Yes, you do. At the very least, you have potential that you haven't yet fully actualized into actual influence.

and you're the one calling people edgy


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Postby The balkens » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:57 pm

Felrik wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
All of that is perfectly fair criticism, whether I agree with it or not.

Too bad a number of assholes had to turn it into a quasi-religious crusade to take down one actress.


I don't know why they aimed at her though, maybe the trolls knew she was an easy target, easy to get controversy.


Felk discovers the vast mysteries of trolling.

now go forth and write the book of shitposting, my child.

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Postby The Shady Looking Vukmiri Delegates » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:57 pm

Uiiop wrote:
The Shady Looking Vukmiri Delegates wrote:RE:
1. I wouldn't place any money on what you just said, it eat anything like the originals, it's humor was forced and bland, the build up sudden and anticlimactic, the writing and acting mediocre and cringe worthy, and finally giving slimer a girlfriend, wtf.
2. Yeah but the sequel was bearable and had the original cast members. :p
3. I can't speak for the people that attempted this attack but it must have obviously made them considerably angry.
4. She in my opinion, is the face of everything that is wrong with movie. She's a feminism loving misogyny hating ghost buster bat at the same time she is filled with black stereotypes and horrible dialogue and humor. Sure it would make sense to go after the writers and brain of the movie but some people won't look past the wall.

1. and i've seen it and even though i agree with most of your assement i don't see how to transtion to that to "IT EATS IT ALL! THE MEDICORITY! IT'S HORRIBLE!"
2. I confess on not having seen that it doesn't sound any better than the current film. This movie is also bearable.
3. And again why does that make that okay. that sounds very...PC of you. I'd under your logic anything that's upset people is enough to justify shitty treatment. And you don't speak for them but you still condone their actions.
4. If weren't for the fact you're justifying harassment this crticism is fair enough. I liked some of her lines and she had the one of only two good moments in the whole damn film.

4.

I may be biased since I was a large fan of the original movie, but for God's sake actually research into the previous movie instead of making it White Knight and SJW bait with a "spooky ghost theme over it." I'm just saying I'm not suprised the it happened and I wouldnt be if more attacks were carried out in the future. I did like the soundtrack though. :ugeek:

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Postby Felrik » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:57 pm

Gauthier wrote:
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I understood the first sentence and I agree, but the second one to me looks incoherent, could you perhaps re-phrase that please, sorry.


If the women had started up a Ghostbusters franchise, like 7/11.

Who knows.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:58 pm

Greater Orensta wrote:
36 Camera Perspective wrote:
Yes, you do. At the very least, you have potential that you haven't yet fully actualized into actual influence.

and you're the one calling people edgy


That's not edgy. That's an attempt to convince you that you're more important in the grand scheme of things, or at least potentially so, than you may realize.

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Postby Slarvainian » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:58 pm

Obviously this is egregious. The right authorities should investigate and hopefully prosecute whoever is behind this hack.
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Postby Felrik » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:58 pm

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Felrik wrote:
I don't know why they aimed at her though, maybe the trolls knew she was an easy target, easy to get controversy.


Felk discovers the vast mysteries of trolling.

now go forth and write the book of shitposting, my child.


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Postby The balkens » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:58 pm

Felrik wrote:
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now go forth and write the book of shitposting, my child.


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Postby New Grestin » Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:59 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Right. How dare she try to entertain people with material that you personally dislike? This was well deserved because she has money that she fairly earned after struggling in comedy clubs for twenty years, and finally getting a break after working hard!

Thanks for putting words in my mouth, guy.

No, I don't like her work. No, I don't like her movie, and she annoys the living shit out of me just enough to bitch about it on the tubes.

She got doxxed. That sucks. She's probably not going to lose her job, she's probably not going to get robbed, she's probably not going to get murdered. Harassed, perhaps, but likely nothing beyond that. It was someone dumping her private info, likely just for giggles.

Ergo, I find it extremely difficult to get emotionally invested in the outrage here. My own personal opinion of her work is a small part of that.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:00 pm

Felrik wrote:
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
All of that is perfectly fair criticism, whether I agree with it or not.

Too bad a number of assholes had to turn it into a quasi-religious crusade to take down one actress.


I don't know why they aimed at her though, maybe the trolls knew she was an easy target, easy to get controversy.


I have some ideas.

First, her body type isn't typical of Hollywood actresses in lead roles (though that could be said of all of them).

Second, she tends to be brash and outspoken.

Third, unlike (as an example) Melissa McCarthy, who doesn't have that much of a social media presence, Leslie Jones does have one.

Fourth, she dared to actually respond to some of the criticism rather than simply ignore it.

Fifth, she was the only black one, which opened up the "ugly gorilla" comparisons.

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Postby The Shady Looking Vukmiri Delegates » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:00 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Felrik wrote:
I don't know why they aimed at her though, maybe the trolls knew she was an easy target, easy to get controversy.


Lazy racism. If it was about getting pissed at the reboot the entire female cast would have been harassed, not just her.

I doubt it was racism, like I said she was the face of everything wrong with the movie, plus the bandwagoning hate. I wouldn't be suprised if there are more attacks on other collaborators.

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Postby 36 Camera Perspective » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:00 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Greater Orensta wrote:and you're the one calling people edgy


That's not edgy. That's an attempt to convince you that you're more important in the grand scheme of things, or at least potentially so, than you may realize.


I'm surprised by the claim, because one would think denying our importance is the stereotypically "edgy" post.
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Postby Greater Orensta » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:00 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Greater Orensta wrote:and you're the one calling people edgy


That's not edgy. That's an attempt to convince you that you're more important in the grand scheme of things, or at least potentially so, than you may realize.

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Postby The Shady Looking Vukmiri Delegates » Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:01 pm

I'm just offended how someone dared to compare her to Harambe.

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