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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:46 am

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Thermodolia wrote:A cochlear implant is fucking expensive to get in the states


It's totally worth it. And you know why it is expensive to get in the states?

Because you don't have mandatory, subsidised healthcare for all. That is why.

I'm well aware why it's fucking expensive. I'm pissed that we don't.
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Postby Risottia » Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:51 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Herargon wrote:
It's totally worth it. And you know why it is expensive to get in the states?

Because you don't have mandatory, subsidised healthcare for all. That is why.

I'm well aware why it's fucking expensive. I'm pissed that we don't.

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Postby Khadgar » Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:55 am

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Thermodolia wrote:I'm well aware why it's fucking expensive. I'm pissed that we don't.

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Could you imagine the drama every four years as US politicians threatened to leave?

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Postby Nariterrr » Tue Aug 23, 2016 10:56 am

These shootings are getting worse and worse.
Honestly who knows what about anything anymore.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:00 am

Vassenor wrote:I thought we were required to treat all police shootings as justified until proven otherwise?

He's white though.
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Postby Herargon » Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:03 am

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Could you imagine the drama every four years as US politicians threatened to leave?


It would give fantastic banter and popcorn to sod off the British, nonetheless :twisted:

Honestly, I'm sad that they will leave. Maybe they will. Or maybe not. But for now they're looped in a grey, unclear limbo with an uncertain future.
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Postby Herargon » Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:05 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Herargon wrote:
It's totally worth it. And you know why it is expensive to get in the states?

Because you don't have mandatory, subsidised healthcare for all. That is why.

I'm well aware why it's fucking expensive. I'm pissed that we don't.


Hey... Don't be sad or pissed. I really hope for you guys that you will manage to get that sweet healthcare through. Then finally we no longer can joke about you Americans having such medical bills that people in burning cars want to get put back. :p
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:09 am

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Could you imagine the drama every four years as US politicians threatened to leave?

We already have politicians that threaten to leave the UN
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Postby The Order of Sarrisae » Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:35 am

Equestria and Griffon wrote:http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/north-carolina-trooper-fatally-shoots-deaf-man-after-traffic-stop-n636221

This is horrible. Do they even try to teach the officers sign language? They know they will be around psychos,and the mentally impaired. Why do they do this? He also tried sign language,which is a thing the article doesn't say. Are we going to have more murders? My heart goes out to this person. NSG,what's your opinion on this?




It's basically society's point of view towards the disabled. If you can't understand them, kill them. Ever since Reagan pulled his coup de ta and became President, America has had a negative point of view. I strongly suggest that all disabled Americans leave AmerIca and African-Americans leave America.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:40 am

The Order of Sarrisae wrote:
Equestria and Griffon wrote:http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/north-carolina-trooper-fatally-shoots-deaf-man-after-traffic-stop-n636221

This is horrible. Do they even try to teach the officers sign language? They know they will be around psychos,and the mentally impaired. Why do they do this? He also tried sign language,which is a thing the article doesn't say. Are we going to have more murders? My heart goes out to this person. NSG,what's your opinion on this?




It's basically society's point of view towards the disabled. If you can't understand them, kill them. Ever since Reagan pulled his coup de ta and became President, America has had a negative point of view. I strongly suggest that all disabled Americans leave AmerIca and African-Americans leave America.

That's not going to fix anything
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Postby Jamzmania » Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:03 pm

The article in the OP contains little to no details about what actually happened during the stop other than that the driver was apparently deaf and there was a "brief pursuit."
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Postby The balkens » Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:07 pm

Can we get some more details?

Like was it a pursuit?

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:14 pm

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:14 pm

The balkens wrote:Can we get some more details?

Like was it a pursuit?

There was probably a short pursuit due to the fact that deaf people can't hear sirens. He probably pulled over when he saw the blue lights.
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Postby Jamzmania » Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:15 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The balkens wrote:Can we get some more details?

Like was it a pursuit?

There was probably a short pursuit due to the fact that deaf people can't hear sirens. He probably pulled over when he saw the blue lights.

Probably, probably.

Meanwhile everyone is already declaring that the shooting was unjustified.
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Postby Geilinor » Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:19 pm

Jamzmania wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:There was probably a short pursuit due to the fact that deaf people can't hear sirens. He probably pulled over when he saw the blue lights.

Probably, probably.

Meanwhile everyone is already declaring that the shooting was unjustified.

How is it justified to shoot someone because they can't hear you? You could claim that he wasn't complying but officers should be trained on how to interact with deaf people.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:19 pm

Jamzmania wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:There was probably a short pursuit due to the fact that deaf people can't hear sirens. He probably pulled over when he saw the blue lights.

Probably, probably.

Meanwhile everyone is already declaring that the shooting was unjustified.

Because shooting a deaf guy is unjustified.
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Postby Jamzmania » Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:21 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Jamzmania wrote:Probably, probably.

Meanwhile everyone is already declaring that the shooting was unjustified.

How is it justified to shoot someone because they can't hear you? You could claim that he wasn't complying but officers should be trained on how to interact with deaf people.

We don't know what happened, so it's idiotic to jump to the conclusion that he was shot simply because he was deaf.

Thermodolia wrote:
Jamzmania wrote:Probably, probably.

Meanwhile everyone is already declaring that the shooting was unjustified.

Because shooting a deaf guy is unjustified.

In any situation?
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Postby Geilinor » Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:23 pm

Jamzmania wrote:
Geilinor wrote:How is it justified to shoot someone because they can't hear you? You could claim that he wasn't complying but officers should be trained on how to interact with deaf people.

We don't know what happened, so it's idiotic to jump to the conclusion that he was shot simply because he was deaf.

That's not my conclusion. I'm coming to the conclusion that he was shot because he and the police officer were unable to communicate with each other.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:23 pm

Jamzmania wrote:
Geilinor wrote:How is it justified to shoot someone because they can't hear you? You could claim that he wasn't complying but officers should be trained on how to interact with deaf people.

We don't know what happened, so it's idiotic to jump to the conclusion that he was shot simply because he was deaf.

Thermodolia wrote:Because shooting a deaf guy is unjustified.

In any situation?

Yes! Just because they can't hear you doesn't mean you can kill them
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Postby Jamzmania » Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:25 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Jamzmania wrote:We don't know what happened, so it's idiotic to jump to the conclusion that he was shot simply because he was deaf.

That's not my conclusion. I'm coming to the conclusion that he was shot because he and the police officer were unable to communicate with each other.

And for as long as we don't have any details about what actually happened, I would suggest everyone refrain from making any conclusions.
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Postby Jamzmania » Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:25 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Jamzmania wrote:We don't know what happened, so it's idiotic to jump to the conclusion that he was shot simply because he was deaf.


In any situation?

Yes! Just because they can't hear you doesn't mean you can kill them

What if the deaf person had a gun and what pointing it at the officer?
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Postby Wallenburg » Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:28 pm

It's North Carolina. Of course they aren't going to teach their officers sign language. This is a terrible and easily preventable tragedy, and naturally nothing will be done about it.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:31 pm

Jamzmania wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Yes! Just because they can't hear you doesn't mean you can kill them

What if the deaf person had a gun and what pointing it at the officer?

Still try to reason using sign language or writing words on paper. But in this case that didn't happen because the victim was unarmed.
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Postby Luziyca » Tue Aug 23, 2016 12:33 pm

Incidents like this are happening so often that I really don't think people care as much. I feel this is going to be the new normal in the States, and I doubt that things will ever improve for the better.

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