White Supremacist Demonstration Outside Houston NAACP HQ

[Jumalariik]

I could recognize reality.

That didn't answer the question. Then again, you tend not to answer ones that might prove difficult.

I didn't think about it, though if asked I would recognize that I'm male.

#doublepost

[Thermodolia]

Let me ask you a question. At the age of 4 did you or did you not know if you where a girl or a boy?

I could recognize reality.

So what you are saying is that you knew whether you where a girl or a boy. Which means that if you knew that at the age of 4 that are a boy then it stands to reason that members of the Trans* community would also know what gender they are at that same age.

[The Confederacy of Nationalism]

If it's not attempt to disagree with biology and one's own physical existence, what is it?

It's not an attempt to disagree. It's an actual sense of identity. Nobody is disagreeing with what their biological sex is, but they aren't accepting that their gender identity has to match up with it.

I would disagree with the bolded statement, because there are people who identify as a different gender and expect others to respect that in speech and writing despite physical reality - it's a spook, in the Max Stirner sense.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

That didn't answer the question. Then again, you tend not to answer ones that might prove difficult.

I didn't think about it, though if asked I would recognize that I'm male.

#doublepost

And if a child says "Wait, I have the sex organs of a boy, but I feel like a girl"?

[Neutraligon]

That didn't answer the question. Then again, you tend not to answer ones that might prove difficult.

I didn't think about it, though if asked I would recognize that I'm male.

#doublepost

That still doesn't answer the question.

[Italios]

can you just say "BLM is totally racist and the WLM group has an actual justification for this demonstration" and be over with it?

White Lives Don't Matter, they've been systemically suppressing indigeneous peoples like African-Americans for centuries! Why does their life matter when they are going around putting the indigenous peoples down for their own benefit???

pussyfooting is only funny in the first post. Seriously, say what you mean or else what's the point of "participating" in these threads.

[Yorkers]

This sounds less like a source and more like "Oh shit, I expected them to just believe me. Now I gotta pull something out of my ass or make them wait in the hopes that they'll forget about it. But first, I'm going to be condescending and act like everyone else is stupid." to me.

Or I just have a life and don't really care about your convenience, but that would imply the world doesn't revolve around you and your smugness.

On this note, draft saved. I'm a bit stuck on how to count the white gun crime rate, because Latinos are inconsistently lumped in with whites. For example, in murder rates, they are counted as separate group, but when it comes to gun-homicide, it seems the statisticians count them as whites, which causes headaches.

However, one thing to particularly noteworthy so far, and this will be revealed when I finish my draft, is that even if you assume that all races use firearms in murder across at the same rate, there are still staggering differences between the races, and that's assuming all things are equal.

[Minzerland]

can you just say "BLM is totally racist and the WLM group has an actual justification for this demonstration" and be over with it?

White Lives Don't Matter, they've been systemically suppressing indigeneous peoples like African-Americans for centuries! Why does their life matter when they are going around putting the indigenous peoples down for their own benefit???

That's a bundle of joy. I'll save you the trouble by shooting myself, perhaps?

[Italios]

It's not an attempt to disagree. It's an actual sense of identity. Nobody is disagreeing with what their biological sex is, but they aren't accepting that their gender identity has to match up with it.

I would disagree with the bolded statement, because there are people who identify as a different gender and expect others to respect that in speech and writing despite physical reality - it's a spook, in the Max Stirner sense.

I think they expect others not to disregard their biology, but to it out of respect for their self identification.

[Jumalariik]

I didn't think about it, though if asked I would recognize that I'm male.

#doublepost

And if a child says "Wait, I have the sex organs of a boy, but I feel like a girl"?

Hard to say. If they are below the age of consent, then I don't think they can consent to changing how they really are biologically or by dress.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

It's not an attempt to disagree. It's an actual sense of identity. Nobody is disagreeing with what their biological sex is, but they aren't accepting that their gender identity has to match up with it.

I would disagree with the bolded statement, because there are people who identify as a different gender and expect others to respect that in speech and writing despite physical reality - it's a spook, in the Max Stirner sense.

My point is that they're not saying that they don't have the chromosomes of someone of their sex at birth, only that they've chosen to go with what they identify as rather than what they were biologically assigned at conception. Yes, they expect others to respect that choice, and it's almost unbelievably petty that people would have an issue with that.

[Neutraligon]

I would disagree with the bolded statement, because there are people who identify as a different gender and expect others to respect that in speech and writing despite physical reality - it's a spook, in the Max Stirner sense.

I think they expect others not to disregard their biology, but to it out of respect for their self identification.

Sorta like if someone asks you to call them Katy instead of Catherine.

[Felrik]

can you just say "BLM is totally racist and the WLM group has an actual justification for this demonstration" and be over with it?

White Lives Don't Matter, they've been systemically suppressing indigeneous peoples like African-Americans for centuries! Why does their life matter when they are going around putting the indigenous peoples down for their own benefit???

Are you serious or are you actually being sarcastic, if you're being sarcastic you might want to admit it, if not.......

[Yumyumsuppertime]

And if a child says "Wait, I have the sex organs of a boy, but I feel like a girl"?

Hard to say. If they are below the age of consent, then I don't think they can consent to changing how they really are biologically or by dress.

Not biologically, no, but they can dress as the gender they identify with if the parents are amenable.

[Italios]

I think they expect others not to disregard their biology, but to it out of respect for their self identification.

Sorta like if someone asks you to call them Catherine instead of Katy.

"but it says catherine on your birth certificate! so why should I use a FAKE name instead of your real name!"

[Freefall11111]

White supremacists are hilarious. Hilariously depressing, but hilarious.

[Neutraligon]

And if a child says "Wait, I have the sex organs of a boy, but I feel like a girl"?

Hard to say. If they are below the age of consent, then I don't think they can consent to changing how they really are biologically or by dress.

Well they can certainly ask parents to dress them how the child wants rather then how the parent wants. Oh and, children can get hormone blockers, with of course the parents consent.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Hard to say. If they are below the age of consent, then I don't think they can consent to changing how they really are biologically or by dress.

Well they can certainly ask parents to dress them how the child wants rather then how the parent wants. Oh and, children can get hormone blockers, with of course the parents consent.

Yes, but we were talking about a four year old. Hormone blockers wouldn't come into play until pubescence.

[Felrik]

What're you talking about? Doctors totally perform full scale SRS on toddlers all the time!

"And when you wake up, Bobby, you'll be Roberta just like you wanted! Now close your eyes and count backwards from ten like a good girl..."

For some reason that sounded astonishing wrong....

[The first Galactic Republic]

Indeed. It is 2016, not 1860. Time marches on.

Time marches on but we haven't solved racial issues yet.

More like time marches on but symbols don't change meaning if they're still used for the same reasons.

[Jumalariik]

Hard to say. If they are below the age of consent, then I don't think they can consent to changing how they really are biologically or by dress.

Well they can certainly ask parents to dress them how the child wants rather then how the parent wants. Oh and, children can get hormone blockers, with of course the parents consent.

They should not get hormone blockers, NO.

[Neutraligon]

Well they can certainly ask parents to dress them how the child wants rather then how the parent wants. Oh and, children can get hormone blockers, with of course the parents consent.

Yes, but we were talking about a four year old. Hormone blockers wouldn't come into play until pubescence.

I believe they are supposed to be started right before puberty starts, which is normally around 10 for females and 11 for males. You are right though that 4 hormone blockers would not come into play..

[Neutraligon]

Well they can certainly ask parents to dress them how the child wants rather then how the parent wants. Oh and, children can get hormone blockers, with of course the parents consent.

They should not get hormone blockers, NO.

Why shouldn't kids get hormone blockers, afterall it gives them time to make the decision, and is reversible. You know what, nevermind, this is a threadjack.

[HMS Vanguard]

Yes, but we were talking about a four year old. Hormone blockers wouldn't come into play until pubescence.

I believe they are supposed to be started right before puberty starts, which is normally around 10 for females and 11 for males. You are right though that 4 hormone blockers would not come into play..

Did this knowledge come from the medical experiments of Josef Mengele?

[Neutraligon]

I believe they are supposed to be started right before puberty starts, which is normally around 10 for females and 11 for males. You are right though that 4 hormone blockers would not come into play..

Did this knowledge come from the medical experiments of Josef Mengele?

The relevance of this question is?