It's not an attempt to disagree. It's an actual sense of identity. Nobody is disagreeing with what their biological sex is, but they aren't accepting that their gender identity has to match up with it.
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by Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:36 pm

by Italios » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:36 pm
Jumalariik wrote:Italios wrote:oh god these monosyllabic replies have totally changed my viewpoint. educate me about your ways. I'm fully and utterly convinced you're right.
I think in general, trying to mould your child's core identity to fit your politics, especially if it means you have to bring their nether regions into it, is bad parenting. It isn't okay.
I honestly don't see why it's now a bad thing for parents to try to guide their kids in the right direction. My parents try to guide me away from Christianity, I don't resent them for it, it is within their rights to try to make somebody better in their eyes.

by Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:37 pm
Vassenor wrote:I don't know about anyone else but I'm still waiting for the peer reviewed evidence that it's all impossible and thus must be a choice.

by Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:37 pm
Italios wrote:Jumalariik wrote:I honestly don't see why it's now a bad thing for parents to try to guide their kids in the right direction. My parents try to guide me away from Christianity, I don't resent them for it, it is within their rights to try to make somebody better in their eyes.
However, guiding your child "in the right path" can be abusive in some circumstances. It's one thing to not bring your child to church and not celebrate religious holidays or pray or establish a religious household, it's another to do something like verbally or physically harm over religion. Same goes for gender identity.Xadufell wrote:
"Gender identity is your head"
You just proved me right.
Like the head of your... Well... That.
Huehuehue
That's not proving your point, that's making a "witty" joke.

by Kamchastkia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:41 pm

by Xadufell » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:42 pm
Grinning Dragon wrote:Why would anyone waste a good bullet on the likes of CNN anyway? I don't understand why anyone would get that worked up over a bunch of dipshits, christ if their shit show is getting you that worked up, just turn the damn thing off and go for a walk/run/ride.

by Minzerland » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:43 pm

by Conserative Morality » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:45 pm
Kamchastkia wrote:I'm serious rn, like. White people need to control themselves.


by Jumalariik » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:46 pm
Italios wrote:Jumalariik wrote:I honestly don't see why it's now a bad thing for parents to try to guide their kids in the right direction. My parents try to guide me away from Christianity, I don't resent them for it, it is within their rights to try to make somebody better in their eyes.
However, guiding your child "in the right path" can be abusive in some circumstances. It's one thing to not bring your child to church and not celebrate religious holidays or pray or establish a religious household, it's another to do something like verbally or physically harm over religion. Same goes for gender identity.Xadufell wrote:
"Gender identity is your head"
You just proved me right.
Like the head of your... Well... That.
Huehuehue
That's not proving your point, that's making a "witty" joke.

by Vassenor » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:48 pm

by Kelinfort » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:49 pm
Conserative Morality wrote:Kamchastkia wrote:I'm serious rn, like. White people need to control themselves.
I know, right? I was hanging out with a bunch of white friends the other day and we were all partying and we whited out so hard (which is like blacking out, but lighter). When we came to, it turns out we ate a shitton of mayonnaise and binge-watched Friends afterwards. Our whiteness is a dangerous thing that needs to be controlled.
A legacy of the Belgian colonial period is the overwhelming preference for huge blobs of mayonnaise on almost everything -- meat, fish, fried plantains, manioc, peas and salad are just a few examples.

by Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:49 pm
Jumalariik wrote:Italios wrote:However, guiding your child "in the right path" can be abusive in some circumstances. It's one thing to not bring your child to church and not celebrate religious holidays or pray or establish a religious household, it's another to do something like verbally or physically harm over religion. Same goes for gender identity.
That's not proving your point, that's making a "witty" joke.
I think it's all about age and what sort of guidance is given. If you are 4 you should not make any moves to another sex.

by Vassenor » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:51 pm
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Jumalariik wrote:I think it's all about age and what sort of guidance is given. If you are 4 you should not make any moves to another sex.
Not medically, to be sure, but there's no harm in the child dressing in whichever clothes he or she feels more comfortable with, and using a preferred pronoun.


by Thermodolia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:51 pm
Jumalariik wrote:Italios wrote:However, guiding your child "in the right path" can be abusive in some circumstances. It's one thing to not bring your child to church and not celebrate religious holidays or pray or establish a religious household, it's another to do something like verbally or physically harm over religion. Same goes for gender identity.
That's not proving your point, that's making a "witty" joke.
I think it's all about age and what sort of guidance is given. If you are 4 you should not make any moves to another sex.

by Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:53 pm

by Jumalariik » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:53 pm

by Italios » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:53 pm

by Jumalariik » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:54 pm

by Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:54 pm

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