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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:36 pm

The Confederacy of Nationalism wrote:
Italios wrote:Saying "I'm a man" when you were born female means you identify as male, not that you're attempting to disagree with the existence of biology.

If it's not attempt to disagree with biology and one's own physical existence, what is it?


It's not an attempt to disagree. It's an actual sense of identity. Nobody is disagreeing with what their biological sex is, but they aren't accepting that their gender identity has to match up with it.

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Postby Italios » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:36 pm

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Italios wrote:oh god these monosyllabic replies have totally changed my viewpoint. educate me about your ways. I'm fully and utterly convinced you're right.
I think in general, trying to mould your child's core identity to fit your politics, especially if it means you have to bring their nether regions into it, is bad parenting. It isn't okay.

I honestly don't see why it's now a bad thing for parents to try to guide their kids in the right direction. My parents try to guide me away from Christianity, I don't resent them for it, it is within their rights to try to make somebody better in their eyes.

However, guiding your child "in the right path" can be abusive in some circumstances. It's one thing to not bring your child to church and not celebrate religious holidays or pray or establish a religious household, it's another to do something like verbally or physically harm over religion. Same goes for gender identity.
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Italios wrote:It means your gender identity is your head, not your weewee, and that the idea of gender and its roles are shaped and influenced by society.


"Gender identity is your head"

You just proved me right.

Like the head of your... Well... That.

Huehuehue

That's not proving your point, that's making a "witty" joke.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:37 pm

Vassenor wrote:I don't know about anyone else but I'm still waiting for the peer reviewed evidence that it's all impossible and thus must be a choice.


We're going to be here for a while, then.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:37 pm

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Jumalariik wrote:I honestly don't see why it's now a bad thing for parents to try to guide their kids in the right direction. My parents try to guide me away from Christianity, I don't resent them for it, it is within their rights to try to make somebody better in their eyes.

However, guiding your child "in the right path" can be abusive in some circumstances. It's one thing to not bring your child to church and not celebrate religious holidays or pray or establish a religious household, it's another to do something like verbally or physically harm over religion. Same goes for gender identity.
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"Gender identity is your head"

You just proved me right.

Like the head of your... Well... That.

Huehuehue

That's not proving your point, that's making a "witty" joke.


Even with the scare quotes, that didn't deserve "witty".

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Postby Kamchastkia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:41 pm

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Kamchastkia wrote:White people suck, like ew. This is so racist.

I'm assuming this is sarcasm.

I can't believe people advocate for classifying the entire BLM movement as a terrorist organisation and then make fun of far more racist groups like this.

I'm serious rn, like. White people need to control themselves.

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Postby Xadufell » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:42 pm

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Italios wrote:I'm assuming this is sarcasm.

I can't believe people advocate for classifying the entire BLM movement as a terrorist organisation and then make fun of far more racist groups like this.

I'm serious rn, like. White people need to control themselves.


I also suppose that they should also pay reparations for slavery?

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Postby Minzerland » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:43 pm

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Italios wrote:I'm assuming this is sarcasm.

I can't believe people advocate for classifying the entire BLM movement as a terrorist organisation and then make fun of far more racist groups like this.

I'm serious rn, like. White people need to control themselves.

Why do they need to 'control themselves'?
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Thermodolia wrote:Have you actually visited SPLC's site?

Yes and it's vile.

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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:45 pm

Kamchastkia wrote:I'm serious rn, like. White people need to control themselves.

I know, right? I was hanging out with a bunch of white friends the other day and we were all partying and we whited out so hard (which is like blacking out, but lighter). When we came to, it turns out we ate a shitton of mayonnaise and binge-watched Friends afterwards. Our whiteness is a dangerous thing that needs to be controlled.
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Postby Italios » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:45 pm

Kamchastkia wrote:
Italios wrote:I'm assuming this is sarcasm.

I can't believe people advocate for classifying the entire BLM movement as a terrorist organisation and then make fun of far more racist groups like this.

I'm serious rn, like. White people need to control themselves.

can you just say "BLM is totally racist and the WLM group has an actual justification for this demonstration" and be over with it?
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Postby HMS Vanguard » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:46 pm

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Postby Jumalariik » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:46 pm

Italios wrote:
Jumalariik wrote:I honestly don't see why it's now a bad thing for parents to try to guide their kids in the right direction. My parents try to guide me away from Christianity, I don't resent them for it, it is within their rights to try to make somebody better in their eyes.

However, guiding your child "in the right path" can be abusive in some circumstances. It's one thing to not bring your child to church and not celebrate religious holidays or pray or establish a religious household, it's another to do something like verbally or physically harm over religion. Same goes for gender identity.
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"Gender identity is your head"

You just proved me right.

Like the head of your... Well... That.

Huehuehue

That's not proving your point, that's making a "witty" joke.

I think it's all about age and what sort of guidance is given. If you are 4 you should not make any moves to another sex.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:48 pm

But yes, this sort of thing is what happens when people get upset that everything in reality doesn't revolve around them.
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Postby Kelinfort » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:49 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:
Kamchastkia wrote:I'm serious rn, like. White people need to control themselves.

I know, right? I was hanging out with a bunch of white friends the other day and we were all partying and we whited out so hard (which is like blacking out, but lighter). When we came to, it turns out we ate a shitton of mayonnaise and binge-watched Friends afterwards. Our whiteness is a dangerous thing that needs to be controlled.

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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:49 pm

Jumalariik wrote:
Italios wrote:However, guiding your child "in the right path" can be abusive in some circumstances. It's one thing to not bring your child to church and not celebrate religious holidays or pray or establish a religious household, it's another to do something like verbally or physically harm over religion. Same goes for gender identity.
That's not proving your point, that's making a "witty" joke.

I think it's all about age and what sort of guidance is given. If you are 4 you should not make any moves to another sex.


Not medically, to be sure, but there's no harm in the child dressing in whichever clothes he or she feels more comfortable with, and using a preferred pronoun.

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Postby Vassenor » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:51 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Jumalariik wrote:I think it's all about age and what sort of guidance is given. If you are 4 you should not make any moves to another sex.


Not medically, to be sure, but there's no harm in the child dressing in whichever clothes he or she feels more comfortable with, and using a preferred pronoun.


What're you talking about? Doctors totally perform full scale SRS on toddlers all the time! :roll:
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:51 pm

Jumalariik wrote:
Italios wrote:However, guiding your child "in the right path" can be abusive in some circumstances. It's one thing to not bring your child to church and not celebrate religious holidays or pray or establish a religious household, it's another to do something like verbally or physically harm over religion. Same goes for gender identity.
That's not proving your point, that's making a "witty" joke.

I think it's all about age and what sort of guidance is given. If you are 4 you should not make any moves to another sex.

Let me ask you a question. At the age of 4 did you or did you not know if you where a girl or a boy?
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Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Not medically, to be sure, but there's no harm in the child dressing in whichever clothes he or she feels more comfortable with, and using a preferred pronoun.


What're you talking about? Doctors totally perform full scale SRS on toddlers all the time! :roll:


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Postby Jumalariik » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:53 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Jumalariik wrote:I think it's all about age and what sort of guidance is given. If you are 4 you should not make any moves to another sex.

Let me ask you a question. At the age of 4 did you or did you not know if you where a girl or a boy?

I could recognize reality.
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Postby Kelinfort » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:53 pm

Jumalariik wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Let me ask you a question. At the age of 4 did you or did you not know if you where a girl or a boy?

I could recognize reality.

Ha.

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Postby Italios » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:53 pm

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Jumalariik wrote:I think it's all about age and what sort of guidance is given. If you are 4 you should not make any moves to another sex.

Let me ask you a question. At the age of 4 did you or did you not know if you where a girl or a boy?

One time a four year old who was visiting our house with his parents who were family friends came up to me and asked me to help him zip up his fly after he used the bathroom because he couldn't do it. Totally natural and not at all uncomfortable with asking for help.
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Kelinfort wrote:
Jumalariik wrote:I could recognize reality.

Ha.

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Jumalariik wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Let me ask you a question. At the age of 4 did you or did you not know if you where a girl or a boy?

I could recognize reality.


That didn't answer the question. Then again, you tend not to answer ones that might prove difficult.

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Postby Kamchastkia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:54 pm

Italios wrote:
Kamchastkia wrote:I'm serious rn, like. White people need to control themselves.

can you just say "BLM is totally racist and the WLM group has an actual justification for this demonstration" and be over with it?

White Lives Don't Matter, they've been systemically suppressing indigeneous peoples like African-Americans for centuries! Why does their life matter when they are going around putting the indigenous peoples down for their own benefit???

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