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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:03 pm

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That's not bullshit. Whether you agree with it or not, it's well in line with current psychological thought and practice.

That doesn't make it not bullshit. Just because something is thought by ivory tower dwellers doesn't make it true. If you tell a boy who is 4 years old that he is a girl and can transition if he wants, that's child abuse just as much as conversion therapy tbh.


I'll go with the medical professionals when it comes to defining these things, thanks, and not random guy on the internet who finds transgenderism icky.

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Postby Yorkers » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:04 pm

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Okay, fine. I'll get the sources and even explain the math behind it, for those of you who need that. It will just take a few hours.

This sounds less like a source and more like "Oh shit, I expected them to just believe me. Now I gotta pull something out of my ass or make them wait in the hopes that they'll forget about it. But first, I'm going to be condescending and act like everyone else is stupid." to me.


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Postby Vassenor » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:04 pm

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Jumalariik wrote:That doesn't make it not bullshit. Just because something is thought by ivory tower dwellers doesn't make it true. If you tell a boy who is 4 years old that he is a girl and can transition if he wants, that's child abuse just as much as conversion therapy tbh.


I'll go with the medical professionals when it comes to defining these things, thanks, and not random guy on the internet who finds transgenderism icky.


Also when was free choice child abuse?
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Postby Valystria » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:05 pm

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Jumalariik wrote:They called Trump and Carson for hate, which is manipulation and untrue.


Not untrue at all. Trump called Mexicans rapists and Carson thinks being gay is a choice. Ones spreading stereotypes and the other is downright lying. Well, both of them lie a lot. But yeah. They both deserve the designation.

Being gay is a choice.

"Spreading stereotypes and downright lying". You believe gay people have no autonomy in regards to their sexuality, and that gayness would be bad if it were a choice. Why would else would you be getting outraged whenever someone recognizes sexuality is a choice?

As for other downright lying, Trump never called Mexicans rapists. He said there are rapists illegally entering from Mexico. A factually true statement that can be backed up by crime statistics on illegals.

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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:06 pm

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Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
That's not bullshit. Whether you agree with it or not, it's well in line with current psychological thought and practice.

That doesn't make it not bullshit. Just because something is thought by ivory tower dwellers doesn't make it true. If you tell a boy who is 4 years old that he is a girl and can transition if he wants, that's child abuse just as much as conversion therapy tbh.

I always knew that I was a guy from the age of 4, so why can't they know what gender they are at the same age?
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:07 pm

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Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
That's not bullshit. Whether you agree with it or not, it's well in line with current psychological thought and practice.

That doesn't make it not bullshit. Just because something is thought by ivory tower dwellers doesn't make it true. If you tell a boy who is 4 years old that he is a girl and can transition if he wants, that's child abuse just as much as conversion therapy tbh.


Jesus Christ man. With all that arguing your doing with the Straw Man I might finally get a cell mate! No one's saying you tell a 4 year old boy that they're a girl. Your just respecting it when the kid says 'Dad (or Mom)... I don't really think I'm a boy..."
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Postby Thermodolia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:08 pm

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Not untrue at all. Trump called Mexicans rapists and Carson thinks being gay is a choice. Ones spreading stereotypes and the other is downright lying. Well, both of them lie a lot. But yeah. They both deserve the designation.

Being gay is a choice.

"Spreading stereotypes and downright lying". You believe gay people have no autonomy in regards to their sexuality, and that gayness would be bad if it were a choice. Why would else would you be getting outraged whenever someone recognizes sexuality is a choice?

As for other downright lying, Trump never called Mexicans rapists. He said there are rapists illegally entering from Mexico. A factually true statement that can be backed up by crime statistics on illegals.

Being gay is not a choice! I didn't fucking choose to be gay, nor did I choose to be laughed at, told I'd go to hell, and abused. So why don't you stop talking about things you don't understand.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:09 pm

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Not untrue at all. Trump called Mexicans rapists and Carson thinks being gay is a choice. Ones spreading stereotypes and the other is downright lying. Well, both of them lie a lot. But yeah. They both deserve the designation.

Being gay is a choice.

"Spreading stereotypes and downright lying". You believe gay people have no autonomy in regards to their sexuality, and that gayness would be bad if it were a choice. Why would else would you be getting outraged whenever someone recognizes sexuality is a choice?

As for other downright lying, Trump never called Mexicans rapists. He said there are rapists illegally entering from Mexico. A factually true statement that can be backed up by crime statistics on illegals.


Give me a valid scientific source for your claim that being gay is a choice, and that people throughout history have actually chosen to be part of a group that was subjected to scorn, disownment, abuse, beatings, prison, forced psychiatric treatment, chemical and physical castration, and targeted killings. Please. I beg you, show me your fucking source. Please note that your ass is not a legitimate scientific source.

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Postby Jumalariik » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:11 pm

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
Jumalariik wrote:That doesn't make it not bullshit. Just because something is thought by ivory tower dwellers doesn't make it true. If you tell a boy who is 4 years old that he is a girl and can transition if he wants, that's child abuse just as much as conversion therapy tbh.


Jesus Christ man. With all that arguing your doing with the Straw Man I might finally get a cell mate! No one's saying you tell a 4 year old boy that they're a girl. Your just respecting it when the kid says 'Dad (or Mom)... I don't really think I'm a boy..."

Then you can point downstairs and say "yes you are."
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Postby Jumalariik » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:13 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Valystria wrote:Being gay is a choice.

"Spreading stereotypes and downright lying". You believe gay people have no autonomy in regards to their sexuality, and that gayness would be bad if it were a choice. Why would else would you be getting outraged whenever someone recognizes sexuality is a choice?

As for other downright lying, Trump never called Mexicans rapists. He said there are rapists illegally entering from Mexico. A factually true statement that can be backed up by crime statistics on illegals.


Give me a valid scientific source for your claim that being gay is a choice, and that people throughout history have actually chosen to be part of a group that was subjected to scorn, disownment, abuse, beatings, prison, forced psychiatric treatment, chemical and physical castration, and targeted killings. Please. I beg you, show me your fucking source. Please note that your ass is not a legitimate scientific source.

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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:13 pm

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Jesus Christ man. With all that arguing your doing with the Straw Man I might finally get a cell mate! No one's saying you tell a 4 year old boy that they're a girl. Your just respecting it when the kid says 'Dad (or Mom)... I don't really think I'm a boy..."

Then you can point downstairs and say "yes you are."


I mean, you could be a outdated asshole and cause your kid a shitload of unnecessary psychological pain because you'd prefer to pretend science isn't a real thing, but usually we call that 'cruel' and 'sadistic.'
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Jumalariik wrote:Yes and it's vile.


An organization that fights hatred against minorities is vile. Here you go folks, all you need to know about the right.

Because the right understands that when discussing humanity, hate is a pretty normal thing to find and it's bizarre that there needs to be an organization dedicated to tracking it - leave it be, let people hate each other.
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Postby Jumalariik » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:16 pm

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Jumalariik wrote:Then you can point downstairs and say "yes you are."


I mean, you could be a outdated asshole and cause your kid a shitload of unnecessary psychological pain because you'd prefer to pretend science isn't a real thing, but usually we call that 'cruel' and 'sadistic.'

A boy has something that sticks out, a girl doesn't. :)
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:16 pm

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Give me a valid scientific source for your claim that being gay is a choice, and that people throughout history have actually chosen to be part of a group that was subjected to scorn, disownment, abuse, beatings, prison, forced psychiatric treatment, chemical and physical castration, and targeted killings. Please. I beg you, show me your fucking source. Please note that your ass is not a legitimate scientific source.

Is being a Cathar a choice?


A question is not a source.

Give me a source.

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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:17 pm

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I mean, you could be a outdated asshole and cause your kid a shitload of unnecessary psychological pain because you'd prefer to pretend science isn't a real thing, but usually we call that 'cruel' and 'sadistic.'

A boy has something that sticks out, a girl doesn't. :)


You and your fucking smilies are clearly more intelligent than the American Psychological Association. Totally. Show me your fucking doctorate then we'll talk.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:18 pm

Jumalariik wrote:
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Jesus Christ man. With all that arguing your doing with the Straw Man I might finally get a cell mate! No one's saying you tell a 4 year old boy that they're a girl. Your just respecting it when the kid says 'Dad (or Mom)... I don't really think I'm a boy..."

Then you can point downstairs and say "yes you are."


Now that is child abuse.
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Postby Kamchastkia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:19 pm

White people suck, like ew. This is so racist.

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Postby Italios » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:20 pm

Jumalariik wrote:
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I mean, you could be a outdated asshole and cause your kid a shitload of unnecessary psychological pain because you'd prefer to pretend science isn't a real thing, but usually we call that 'cruel' and 'sadistic.'

A boy has something that sticks out, a girl doesn't. :)

Gender identity and sex aren't the same thing though. If I recall thats what the article you pulled up was about - not encouraging children to explore or realise their gender identity at a young age. Which wouldn't be an issue if gender and sex corresponded all the time.

Also, can we end this threadjack? WLM is a totally unneeded group. They are just trying to garner attention on an issue that isn't really an issue.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:20 pm

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Jumalariik wrote:Then you can point downstairs and say "yes you are."


Now that is child abuse.


Bad parenting, at the very least.

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Postby Vassenor » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:21 pm

Italios wrote:WLM is a totally unneeded group. They are just trying to garner attention on an issue that isn't really an issue.


This. [/thread]
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Postby Xadufell » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:22 pm

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Jumalariik wrote:A boy has something that sticks out, a girl doesn't. :)


You and your fucking smilies are clearly more intelligent than the American Psychological Association. Totally. Show me your fucking doctorate then we'll talk.


I didn't know saying "im a man" means you're a man when you're a woman.

Because biology would disagree with you.
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Postby Jumalariik » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:23 pm

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Jumalariik wrote:A boy has something that sticks out, a girl doesn't. :)


You and your fucking smilies are clearly more intelligent than the American Psychological Association. Totally. Show me your fucking doctorate then we'll talk.

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Postby Xadufell » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:23 pm

Kamchastkia wrote:White people suck, like ew. This is so racist.


You're right, your comment is racist!
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Postby Italios » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:23 pm

Kamchastkia wrote:White people suck, like ew. This is so racist.

I'm assuming this is sarcasm.

I can't believe people advocate for classifying the entire BLM movement as a terrorist organisation and then make fun of far more racist groups like this.
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Postby Vassenor » Mon Aug 22, 2016 3:23 pm

Xadufell wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
You and your fucking smilies are clearly more intelligent than the American Psychological Association. Totally. Show me your fucking doctorate then we'll talk.


I didn't know saying "im a man" means you're a man when you're a woman.

Because biology would disagree with you.


And we're back to biological essentialism.

Cite your sources.
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