Why does it matter what random, uninvolved foreigners have to say?
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by Jamzmania » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:20 am
The Alexanderians wrote:"Fear no man or woman,
No matter what their size.
Call upon me,
And I will equalize."
-Engraved on the side of my M1911 .45

by Thermodolia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:20 am
Novus America wrote:Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
No, it isn't. It actually takes a stand against the racist governor at the time.
In Birmingham, they love the governor (Boo, boo, boo).
Well that is the controversial line. Well one of them. Combined with the segregationist flag many construe it as pro the people fighting the desegregation in 50s. As they use the same flag the pro segregationists did.

by Thermodolia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:22 am

by Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:23 am
Thermodolia wrote:Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
No, it isn't. It actually takes a stand against the racist governor at the time.
In Birmingham, they love the governor (Boo, boo, boo).Big wheels keep on turning
Carry me home to see my kin
Singing songs about the south-land
I miss 'ole' 'bamy once again
And I think it's a sin
Well I heard Mister Young sing about her
Well I heard ole Neil put her down
Well, I hope Neil Young will remember
A southern man don't need him around any how
Sweet home Alabama
Where the skies are so blue
Sweet home Alabama
Lord, I'm coming home to you
In Birmingham they love the Gov'nor
Now we all did what we could do
Now Watergate does not bother me
Does your conscience bother you?
Tell the truth
Sweet home Alabama
Where the skies are so blue
Sweet home Alabama
Lord, I'm coming home to you
Now Muscle Shoals has got the Swampers
And they've been known to pick a song or two
Lord they get me off so much
They pick me up when I'm feeling blue
Now how bout you?
Sweet home Alabama
Where the skies are so blue
Sweet home Alabama
Lord, I'm coming home to you

by Jamzmania » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:23 am
The Alexanderians wrote:"Fear no man or woman,
No matter what their size.
Call upon me,
And I will equalize."
-Engraved on the side of my M1911 .45

by USS Monitor » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:23 am

by USS Monitor » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:24 am

by Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:24 am

by Libertine States of America » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:25 am

by Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:29 am
Thermodolia wrote:Novus America wrote:
Well that is the controversial line. Well one of them. Combined with the segregationist flag many construe it as pro the people fighting the desegregation in 50s. As they use the same flag the pro segregationists did.
The official lyrics do not have them saying "boo, boo, boo"
In 1975, Van Zant said: "The lyrics about the governor of Alabama were misunderstood. The general public didn't notice the words 'Boo! Boo! Boo!' after that particular line, and the media picked up only on the reference to the people loving the governor."[5] "The line 'We all did what we could do' is sort of ambiguous," Al Kooper notes. "'We tried to get Wallace out of there' is how I always thought of it."[5] Towards the end of the song, Van Zant adds "where the governor's true" to the chorus's "where the skies are so blue," a line rendered ironic by the previous booing of the governor. Journalist Al Swenson argues that the song is more complex than it is sometimes given credit for, suggesting that it only looks like an endorsement of Wallace.[5] "Wallace and I have very little in common," Van Zant himself said, "I don't like what he says about colored people."[5]

by Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:29 am
Jamzmania wrote:Thermodolia wrote:Because if other foreign nations had recognized the CSA it would have given the CSA legitimacy and then one could say that they CSA was not fighting their countrymen.
It might have given the CSA legitimacy on the world stage, but as to the question of whether or not the Confederates were fighting their countrymen, the world stage does not matter.

by The balkens » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:30 am
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:The balkens wrote:
so...they had a confederate flag and yet they took a stand against a racist governor?
Yes. I disagree with the flag flying, but I'm aware that their intent was not a racist one. I mean, it's not like they were demonstrating in front of the NAACP with it, or something just as blatantly racist in context.

by Jumalariik » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:30 am
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:The balkens wrote:
so...they had a confederate flag and yet they took a stand against a racist governor?
Yes. I disagree with the flag flying, but I'm aware that their intent was not a racist one. I mean, it's not like they were demonstrating in front of the NAACP with it, or something just as blatantly racist in context.


by Thermodolia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:31 am
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Thermodolia wrote:The official lyrics do not have them saying "boo, boo, boo"
The song has them. If that's not good enough for you, how about what the actual writers of the song had to say?In 1975, Van Zant said: "The lyrics about the governor of Alabama were misunderstood. The general public didn't notice the words 'Boo! Boo! Boo!' after that particular line, and the media picked up only on the reference to the people loving the governor."[5] "The line 'We all did what we could do' is sort of ambiguous," Al Kooper notes. "'We tried to get Wallace out of there' is how I always thought of it."[5] Towards the end of the song, Van Zant adds "where the governor's true" to the chorus's "where the skies are so blue," a line rendered ironic by the previous booing of the governor. Journalist Al Swenson argues that the song is more complex than it is sometimes given credit for, suggesting that it only looks like an endorsement of Wallace.[5] "Wallace and I have very little in common," Van Zant himself said, "I don't like what he says about colored people."[5]

by Thermodolia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:32 am

by The balkens » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:32 am
Thermodolia wrote:Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
The song has them. If that's not good enough for you, how about what the actual writers of the song had to say?
I didn't know that. Thank you for correcting me.

by Jumalariik » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:32 am


by The balkens » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:32 am

by Yumyumsuppertime » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:33 am
The balkens wrote:Yumyumsuppertime wrote:
Yes. I disagree with the flag flying, but I'm aware that their intent was not a racist one. I mean, it's not like they were demonstrating in front of the NAACP with it, or something just as blatantly racist in context.
I am willing to allow private citizens as individuals to fly the flag on their private property.

by Frenline Delpha » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:33 am

by The balkens » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:34 am
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:The balkens wrote:
I am willing to allow private citizens as individuals to fly the flag on their private property.
Sure. To do otherwise is an unnecessary limitation on speech. Private citizens can fly it, wear it, use it as a bumper sticker, or tattoo it on their foreheads for all i care.

by USS Monitor » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:34 am
Thermodolia wrote:Novus America wrote:
Well that is the controversial line. Well one of them. Combined with the segregationist flag many construe it as pro the people fighting the desegregation in 50s. As they use the same flag the pro segregationists did.
The official lyrics do not have them saying "boo, boo, boo"

by Thermodolia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:35 am

by Thermodolia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 10:36 am
USS Monitor wrote:Thermodolia wrote:The official lyrics do not have them saying "boo, boo, boo"
There is something at the end of that line, but I always heard it as "boo hoo hoo" or "boo woo woo." Could be a sarcastic "boo hoo hoo" making fun of the people complaining in other states, could be just random sounds because they thought it enhanced the rhythm of the song, I dunno...
But judging by the rest of the lyrics, I don't think they were calling the governor out for being racist.
Yumyumsuppertime wrote:Thermodolia wrote:The official lyrics do not have them saying "boo, boo, boo"
The song has them. If that's not good enough for you, how about what the actual writers of the song had to say?In 1975, Van Zant said: "The lyrics about the governor of Alabama were misunderstood. The general public didn't notice the words 'Boo! Boo! Boo!' after that particular line, and the media picked up only on the reference to the people loving the governor."[5] "The line 'We all did what we could do' is sort of ambiguous," Al Kooper notes. "'We tried to get Wallace out of there' is how I always thought of it."[5] Towards the end of the song, Van Zant adds "where the governor's true" to the chorus's "where the skies are so blue," a line rendered ironic by the previous booing of the governor. Journalist Al Swenson argues that the song is more complex than it is sometimes given credit for, suggesting that it only looks like an endorsement of Wallace.[5] "Wallace and I have very little in common," Van Zant himself said, "I don't like what he says about colored people."[5]
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