White Supremacist Demonstration Outside Houston NAACP HQ

[Thermodolia]

Two words : Lynyrd Skynyrd

*Beginning of Sweet Home Alabama plays and the Confederate Flag fills the screen*

That song is against the Civil Rights Movement.

It's got a good rhythm to it.

[The Alexanderians]

That song is against the Civil Rights Movement.

It's got a good rhythm to it.

It's anti-civil rights?

[The first Galactic Republic]

As a Southerner I say that it does.

It seems there is a stalemate.

All of the amazing and wonderful things that could be used as a symbol of Southern culture, and you have to stick with a flag flown by people who killed their countrymen in order to maintain their ability to work, beat, flog, rape, mutilate, and often kill black people without recompense or legal consequence.

Just the fact that some people call themselves patriots and fly the battle flag of literal traitors amazes me.

[Jamzmania]

I can perfectly decide myself which flag I would like to wear.

Well you have a right to wear whatever flag you want. This is the US, not Europe. But when your wear the segregationist flag, do not be suprised when it upsets people.

I see upsetting people as a bonus.

[The balkens]

That song is against the Civil Rights Movement.

It's got a good rhythm to it.

...

i love that song.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

All of the amazing and wonderful things that could be used as a symbol of Southern culture, and you have to stick with a flag flown by people who killed their countrymen in order to maintain their ability to work, beat, flog, rape, mutilate, and often kill black people without recompense or legal consequence.

They weren't their countrymen at the time, if that's any consolation.

Yes, they were. Without the ability to successfully defend the claim, or recognition from any other nation on the world stage, there was no actual Confederate States of America, only a group of aristocratic planters who were freaked out by the idea of having to pay for labor, and manipulated a bunch of poor people to go off and fight and die for that cause.

[USS Monitor]

All of the amazing and wonderful things that could be used as a symbol of Southern culture, and you have to stick with a flag flown by people who killed their countrymen in order to maintain their ability to work, beat, flog, rape, mutilate, and often kill black people without recompense or legal consequence.

They weren't their countrymen at the time, if that's any consolation.

Getting back to this protest at the NAACP: Yankees are white. If they're protesting for white rights, and not defending slavery or anything like that, it's the wrong flag to use.

[Magna Singulorum]

Two words : Lynyrd Skynyrd

*Beginning of Sweet Home Alabama plays and the Confederate Flag fills the screen*

That song is against the Civil Rights Movement.

Oh this will be fun! Now I can ask the leftist favorite question.... Source?

[Yumyumsuppertime]

All of the amazing and wonderful things that could be used as a symbol of Southern culture, and you have to stick with a flag flown by people who killed their countrymen in order to maintain their ability to work, beat, flog, rape, mutilate, and often kill black people without recompense or legal consequence.

Sweet Tea or Mint Julep is more representative than that flag

Pecan pie. Grits. Dixieland music. Palmettos.

[Novus America]

That song is against the Civil Rights Movement.

It's got a good rhythm to it.

Oh it does. It is a very well composed song. I have it on my ITunes. But I am aware of the darker side to it. You can like a song without agreeing to its message.

[USS Monitor]

That song is against the Civil Rights Movement.

It's got a good rhythm to it.

It does. The politics behind it are obnoxious, but the song is still catchy.

[Thermodolia]

It's got a good rhythm to it.

It's anti-civil rights?

If you listen closely enough.

[Jamzmania]

They weren't their countrymen at the time, if that's any consolation.

Yes, they were. Without the ability to successfully defend the claim, or recognition from any other nation on the world stage, there was no actual Confederate States of America, only a group of aristocratic planters who were freaked out by the idea of having to pay for labor, and manipulated a bunch of poor people to go off and fight and die for that cause.

Associating with one country or another does not depend upon others recognizing your choice.

[Novus America]

Well you have a right to wear whatever flag you want. This is the US, not Europe. But when your wear the segregationist flag, do not be suprised when it upsets people.

I see upsetting people as a bonus.

Well sure, but if you use a segregationist flag, an people think you racist as a result, do not be suprised.

[Thermodolia]

It's got a good rhythm to it.

Oh it does. It is a very well composed song. I have it on my ITunes. But I am aware of the darker side to it. You can like a song without agreeing to its message.

I definitely agree.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Two words : Lynyrd Skynyrd

*Beginning of Sweet Home Alabama plays and the Confederate Flag fills the screen*

That song is against the Civil Rights Movement.

No, it isn't. It actually takes a stand against the racist governor at the time.

In Birmingham, they love the governor (Boo, boo, boo).

[Thermodolia]

Yes, they were. Without the ability to successfully defend the claim, or recognition from any other nation on the world stage, there was no actual Confederate States of America, only a group of aristocratic planters who were freaked out by the idea of having to pay for labor, and manipulated a bunch of poor people to go off and fight and die for that cause.

Associating with one country or another does not depend upon others recognizing your choice.

Not one nation in the world formally recognized the CSA

[Jamzmania]

Associating with one country or another does not depend upon others recognizing your choice.

Not one nation in the world formally recognized the CSA

And I'm saying that it doesn't matter.

[Frenline Delpha]

Associating with one country or another does not depend upon others recognizing your choice.

Not one nation in the world formally recognized the CSA

Nor should they have.

[Thermodolia]

That song is against the Civil Rights Movement.

No, it isn't. It actually takes a stand against the racist governor at the time.

In Birmingham, they love the governor (Boo, boo, boo).

Big wheels keep on turning
Carry me home to see my kin
Singing songs about the south-land
I miss 'ole' 'bamy once again
And I think it's a sin
Well I heard Mister Young sing about her
Well I heard ole Neil put her down
Well, I hope Neil Young will remember
A southern man don't need him around any how
Sweet home Alabama
Where the skies are so blue
Sweet home Alabama
Lord, I'm coming home to you
In Birmingham they love the Gov'nor
Now we all did what we could do
Now Watergate does not bother me
Does your conscience bother you?
Tell the truth
Sweet home Alabama
Where the skies are so blue
Sweet home Alabama
Lord, I'm coming home to you
Now Muscle Shoals has got the Swampers
And they've been known to pick a song or two
Lord they get me off so much
They pick me up when I'm feeling blue
Now how bout you?
Sweet home Alabama
Where the skies are so blue
Sweet home Alabama
Lord, I'm coming home to you

[The balkens]

That song is against the Civil Rights Movement.

No, it isn't. It actually takes a stand against the racist governor at the time.

In Birmingham, they love the governor (Boo, boo, boo).

so...they had a confederate flag and yet they took a stand against a racist governor?

[Yumyumsuppertime]

The fact that they were never legally allowed to own slaves is meaningless. You could just as easily say that the swastika as used by Nazis doesn't symbolize racism or white supremacy, as most of those who wear it nowadays weren't alive at the time that Hitler and his people were sending Jews and other "undesirables" to death camps. You'd also be wrong.

The American flag was flown by both free states and slave states when we were attempting to break off from the UK for reasons that had nothing to do with slavery. The battle flag was flown by states that were attempting to break off from the U.S. so that they could continue to own slaves. Please tell me that you have the modicum of intelligence necessary to see the difference.

Sorry, were we talking about who was responsible for the slave trade, or were we talking about the reasons for the South seceding and whether or not the Confederate battle flag could be seen as a racist symbol as a result? Once you place those goalposts, let me know where they are, and we'll continue this discussion.

What source did you need?

The source of your "intelligence". You tell me BLM has nothing to do with riots and police murders then turnaround and say the Confederate Flag solely represents slavery.

I didn't say that BLM had nothing to do with riots or police murders. I simply asked for a source showing that they were. A source, by the way, that you still have not managed to provide.

How does a flag flown by a would-be nation that broke away because they were afraid of losing their ability to own slaves not represent slavery?

[Novus America]

That song is against the Civil Rights Movement.

No, it isn't. It actually takes a stand against the racist governor at the time.

In Birmingham, they love the governor (Boo, boo, boo).

Well that is the controversial line. Well one of them. Combined with the segregationist flag many construe it as pro the people fighting the desegregation in 50s. As they use the same flag the pro segregationists did.

[Thermodolia]

Not one nation in the world formally recognized the CSA

And I'm saying that it doesn't matter.

But it does, if you claim that the soldiers of the CSA are not the countrymen of the of the Union soldiers it matters greatly.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Yes, they were. Without the ability to successfully defend the claim, or recognition from any other nation on the world stage, there was no actual Confederate States of America, only a group of aristocratic planters who were freaked out by the idea of having to pay for labor, and manipulated a bunch of poor people to go off and fight and die for that cause.

Associating with one country or another does not depend upon others recognizing your choice.

As I've stated before, I could declare my apartment a free and sovereign nation, call myself King of Apartment C, and name my dog Prime Minister, but if I can't hold my claim by force of arms and I'm not recognized by the international community, then it doesn't mean shit.