Right Wing Discussion Thread the Third

[Conscentia]

Even if it is how you work, you're still using emotional bias to preference one of the options above all others so you're still mistaken in saying "I do not require emotion in my decision making".

Not using emotional bias. I am looking at the options and calculating which one benefits me the most and has the most positive outcome for me. If there is an emotional bias, I suppose you could say 'greed' or 'selfishness'.

"Benefit" and "positive" are determined by preference - by value judgements, and as I said earlier values are determined emotionally. And that's before mentioning your egocentric bias - a preference also determined emotionally.

[Zottistan]

Action requires desire and desire is by definition an emotional bias.

Not really; I don't necessarily desire the outcomes of my decisions. For example, I was presented once with several choices, each of which had a fairly negative outcomes, and the option I desired was one of the more negative ones. I had to ignore that desire to achieve the option which was of the greater benefit to me, because the other option had too negative of an outcome to be acceptable.

That just means your desire for benefit or integrity to your spock self image outweighed your other desire.

[The V O I D]

Not really; I don't necessarily desire the outcomes of my decisions. For example, I was presented once with several choices, each of which had a fairly negative outcomes, and the option I desired was one of the more negative ones. I had to ignore that desire to achieve the option which was of the greater benefit to me, because the other option had too negative of an outcome to be acceptable.

That just means your desire for benefit or integrity to your spock self image outweighed your other desire.

My point is even if I do use emotion to make decision, I use severely low amounts, if any.

[Yorkers]

My political views summed up in Hollywood fashion:

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America is for the Americans.

What about them? :^)

Some say what happened was obvious, or rather that it was just manifest.

Others say it was our destiny.

[Even Less of Mackonia]

This entire ludicrous dichotomy comes from a stupid distinction that the sensations in the brain which correspond to 'reason' are somehow different from those which correspond to 'emotion'. Reason is an emotion and emotions are reasons.

[Conscentia]

That just means your desire for benefit or integrity to your spock self image outweighed your other desire.

My point is even if I do use emotion to make decision, I use severely low amounts, if any.

You use emotion no less than anyone else. As already said, reason is value-neutral. It alone cannot be used to make decisions. You need emotional biases to make decisions, as without them you have no reason to choose one option over another.

[Dagashi Shojo]

Reason is heavily influenced by will, emotions, and drives. I don't believe anyone can truly say they possess "pure reason."

[Zottistan]

This entire ludicrous dichotomy comes from a stupid distinction that the sensations in the brain which correspond to 'reason' are somehow different from those which correspond to 'emotion'. Reason is an emotion and emotions are reasons.

This is why I thought it was important to specify the difference between reason and logic. What you're saying is true of the former, but they're talking about the latter.


Is this a threadjack yet?

[Great Kauthar]

it was a general question based off of recent events in my personal life, I'll keep it at that

Well, if your concern is the purity of the white race, then the same skin color is all you need.
Anyways, you're too young to be worrying about that.

I'm 15 in a month m8

[Diopolis]

Well, if your concern is the purity of the white race, then the same skin color is all you need.
Anyways, you're too young to be worrying about that.

I'm 15 in a month m8

Yeah, that's way too young.

[Great Kauthar]

I'm 15 in a month m8

Yeah, that's way too young.

its scotland. lads in my year do legal highs and have sex already mate I'm doing shit compared to them.

[Diopolis]

Yeah, that's way too young.

its scotland. lads in my year do legal highs and have sex already mate I'm doing shit compared to them.

If they jumped off a cliff, would you follow them?

[Great Kauthar]

its scotland. lads in my year do legal highs and have sex already mate I'm doing shit compared to them.

If they jumped off a cliff, would you follow them?

wait lol im not gonna have sex with her lad or take drugs

[Diopolis]

If they jumped off a cliff, would you follow them?

wait lol im not gonna have sex with her lad or take drugs

And you're likely not in a situation to marry, so what's the point?

[Great Kauthar]

wait lol im not gonna have sex with her lad or take drugs

And you're likely not in a situation to marry, so what's the point?

still m8 it could happen

[Dushan]

Yeah, that's way too young.

its scotland. lads in my year do legal highs and have sex already mate I'm doing shit compared to them.

That doesn't means they're necessarily good role Models for you.

Don't feel shit compared to them, because you do not pre-take in their activites.

Especially even more so if said activities are the result of mere juvenile, irresponsible recklessness.

[Diopolis]

And you're likely not in a situation to marry, so what's the point?

still m8 it could happen

Getting married when you're far too young, and probably unable to support a family besides?
Not really something you should wish for, is it?
Now, becoming friends with this girl isn't necessarily a bad idea. But you're too young to date.

[Great Kauthar]

its scotland. lads in my year do legal highs and have sex already mate I'm doing shit compared to them.

That doesn't means they're necessarily good role Models for you.

Don't feel shit compared to them, because you do not pre-take in their activites.

Especially even more so if said activities are the result of mere juvenile, irresponsible recklessness.

i dont feel shit compared to them LOL I call them all degenerates anyway lmao i was saying I'm not too young to be gon out with a lass lmaooo

[Grand Britannia]

My political views summed up in Hollywood fashion:

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America is for the Americans.

Godbless.

[Diopolis]

That doesn't means they're necessarily good role Models for you.

Don't feel shit compared to them, because you do not pre-take in their activites.

Especially even more so if said activities are the result of mere juvenile, irresponsible recklessness.

i dont feel shit compared to them LOL I call them all degenerates anyway lmao i was saying I'm not too young to be gon out with a lass lmaooo

You're too young until either you can support and head a family or will be in a situation to do so within the next six months.

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

still m8 it could happen

Getting married when you're far too young, and probably unable to support a family besides?
Not really something you should wish for, is it?
Now, becoming friends with this girl isn't necessarily a bad idea. But you're too young to date.

Cause totally being an awkward buffon when you are old enough to date is a preferable alternative

That doesn't means they're necessarily good role Models for you.

Don't feel shit compared to them, because you do not pre-take in their activites.

Especially even more so if said activities are the result of mere juvenile, irresponsible recklessness.

i dont feel shit compared to them LOL I call them all degenerates anyway lmao i was saying I'm not too young to be gon out with a lass lmaooo

Jesus Christ that is literally the most eye-hurting sentence ever. Like, calling people degenerates and 'lmaooo' don't mix.

[Diopolis]

Getting married when you're far too young, and probably unable to support a family besides?
Not really something you should wish for, is it?
Now, becoming friends with this girl isn't necessarily a bad idea. But you're too young to date.

Cause totally being an awkward buffon when you are old enough to date is a preferable alternative

Who said anything about buffoonery? Younglings should be introduced to the opposite sex under supervision of their elders to avoid awkwardness when seeking a spouse, but they should not start courting until they're ready to marry in order to prevent any awkward accidents.

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

Cause totally being an awkward buffon when you are old enough to date is a preferable alternative

Who said anything about buffoonery? Younglings should be introduced to the opposite sex under supervision of their elders to avoid awkwardness when seeking a spouse, but they should not start courting until they're ready to marry in order to prevent any awkward accidents.

Courting? Are you serious? You really think that high school BF/GF relationships fit such a lofty title? Like sheesh. And besides, if they don't have any practice 'courting' or whatever then yes, they are gonna look like fucking idiots when they try and do it for real. And what the hell is an 'awkward accident?'

[Dushan]

This reminds that in the old Days sexual education had a slightly different meaning. Also happens in Dushan:

However, it is a not uncommon custom that Teenagers - once they have reached an appropriate age - are being further Educated in matters of Sexuality by a Mentor. Usually but not always this Role is being taken by a Prostitute (or Courtisan as we prefer to say) of higher Class and experience.

This was pretty much how (male) "younglings" of rank were introduced into those matters to avoid akward situations. Sometimes a maid servant took care of this Business. Thats how was done until the late 19th/early 20th Century, in catholic Countries anyways. (for Italy and parts of Germany, Austria i know this. I can look up some sources I have around here.)

Nowadays things have, of course, changed a lot.

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

This reminds that in the old Days sexual education had a slightly different meaning. Also happens in Dushan:

However, it is a not uncommon custom that Teenagers - once they have reached an appropriate age - are being further Educated in matters of Sexuality by a Mentor. Usually but not always this Role is being taken by a Prostitute (or Courtisan as we prefer to say) of higher Class and experience.

This was pretty much how (male) "younglings" of rank were introduced into those matters to avoid akward situations. Sometimes a maid servant took care of this Business. Thats how was done until the late 19th/early 20th Century, in catholic Countries anyways. (for Italy and parts of Germany, Austria i know this. I can look up some sources I have around here.)

Nowadays things have, of course, changed a lot.

Sex Ed today is either "Sex is bad, mmkay?" if your in a Catholic school or "Knock yourself out, not up. Oh, heres a condom" in public school.