Right Wing Discussion Thread the Third

[Renewed Imperial Germany-]

Which a supposedly all-knowing god would have been able to predict as a consequence of creating humanity, and wouldnt have made humanity knowing it would spell nothing but suffering. Your whole religion is a contradiction.



Hey! I only love one sadist, and his name starts with a J not a G!

God most likely purposefully didn't allow Himself to know what would happen for the sake of giving us free will. Even if He didn't, it doesn't really change that it is humanity's fault, because we did still have the choice.

If I were to break a murderous psychopath out of an asylum, wouldnt him killing people be indirectly my fault?

Anyway, seriously, gotta run guys. Be back tomorrow.

[Jumalariik]

Yes. All suffering comes from sin.

I'm going to put in the minimal effort needed to not act on that affirmation every bloody day for the rest of my life.
What am I saying? It's going to be easy anyways.

If you had no sinful nature, you would still suffer, but you would be at peace because you would be in communion directly with God, knowing God the way that Mary did and the Saints did. You could be stoned to death and ask for their forgiveness, not their torment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMqka3XgHuw

This may be of interest.

[Jumalariik]

God most likely purposefully didn't allow Himself to know what would happen for the sake of giving us free will. Even if He didn't, it doesn't really change that it is humanity's fault, because we did still have the choice.

If I were to break a murderous psychopath out of an asylum, wouldnt him killing people be indirectly my fault?

Anyway, seriously, gotta run guys. Be back tomorrow.

No it would not.

[Nusaresa]

I like cats and dogs, they're cute.

"Adam and Eve guaranteed that one to two percent of human embryos that survived long enough to adolescence would end up having brains with features not present in people with karyotypes that contained matching examples of Pair 23 chromosomes."
Is this similar, at least, to what you're saying?

Yes. All suffering comes from sin.

lmao

All suffering is either a direct consequence of our own actions (impulse to gamble or getting a preventable illness due to not taking proper measures to stay healthy) or or from a unexpected event or force (be that nature hates you or a person shanked you in your sleep).

Them Christians and their sins. Hah.

[Dagashi Shojo]

I just don't care about the topic anymore since it's like playing Dark Souls inside one's own head just understanding it. I just believe in the whole charity aspect of it, as well as meditation.

And mindfulness, because that some good shit right there.

Sometimes I am convinced that Buddha was a fraud intentionally being confusing and contradictory in order to conceal the fact he couldn't live up to the ascetic practices of Mahavira and the Jainists.

[The East Marches]

I like cats and dogs, they're cute.

Yes. All suffering comes from sin.

lmao

All suffering is either a direct consequence of our own actions (impulse to gamble or getting a preventable illness due to not taking proper measures to stay healthy) or or from a unexpected event or force (be that nature hates you or a person shanked you in your sleep).

Them Christians and their sins. Hah.

Personal safety is your responsibility, should have a claymore outside your house if you want to not be shanked in your sleep :^)

[Novus America]

Dogs are weak. You rule the dog. The worship you automatically, do as you say, need you for pretty much everything. They are the "sheeple" in animal form. If they were people most on the right would view them with disdain. Though I guess you can enslave the dog and not the people.

Cats instead know how to use you to get whatever they want. They do not need you, they can survive in essentially any environment.
The dog is your slave. You are the cats servant.

Dogs are strong. They know when to lead, and when to follow. They can provide for themselves if left alone, they have a basic, animal kind of empathy, they look up to you if you are worth looking up to in their eyes. Dogs are dogs.

Cats instead rely upon people to cater to their every whim, and like small dogs owned by elderly folk, are completely unable of contributing anything of meaning to the world. Cats are parasites.

Dogs follow anything with a stronger without question. The look up to even those that abuse them. They give respect without you having to earn it. Cats can respect you, though you really have to earn it.
Dogs also cannot wash themselves, dispose of their waste, control their food intake.

Meanwhile cats can and do colonize and thrive in pretty much an environment. Cats do fine in the wild, but of course they prefer servants to make their lives easier. You can respect and care for your servants. As long as they do what they are supposed to do.

[Conserative Morality]

Dog girls will be genetically engineered by rightwingers to become the mothers of the new underclass by combining whatever's genetically relevant from dogs with a human form. Fuckin A, gents!

Right-wingers got some serious issues to work out, apparently.

God most likely purposefully didn't allow Himself to know what would happen for the sake of giving us free will.

That kind of defeats the point of omniscience.

Yes but if you are the master, why would you want a rebellious good for nothing like a cat? Shouldn't a good and proper person ideally want a dog? Dogs are the most patrician choice. Because only a real patrician can own slaves.

Dogs aren't slaves. Dogs will rule the house if you let them. Dogs are legionaries - loyal until you prove yourself unworthy of that loyalty.

In other words, I am princeps of my very own dog republic

[The Kievan People]

So then, you accept Allah has performed miracles to his followers who listen to the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)?

"And I renounce all the deeds and words of the devil, Mahoune, Termagant and Apollyon, and all those fiends that are their companions"

[Jumalariik]

If 50 thousand people saw this stuff and this included people who could examine it critically and everybody acknowledged it, I'd believe it, yes. Otherwise, that is not a problem with functioning senses if you see what I mean...

So then, you accept Allah has performed miracles to his followers who listen to the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)?

Comparing the word of a few beduins who found a new excuse to rape and murder to the words of 50k people and of photography is a bit silly.

K. Will you acknowledge then that you are denying God not out of a concern for evidence, but a deep inner yearning for something different than what God wants?

*rams head against a wall*

It. Was. A. Joke.

Me responding to jokes in a non-serious way would make me seem likable... we don't want that... then again, I don't know if that would actually be the case anyway.

So then, you accept Allah has performed miracles to his followers who listen to the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)?

Obviously Muhammad was just being led around by Shay- Satan.

Quite true.

[Nusaresa]

It is times like these that I'm grateful for being a believer in an impersonal divinity.

Because he doesn't care whether I defend him or not.

I don't believe in any gods. Because if I did, I would be attempting to fight and murder them.

For the hell of it.

I just don't care about the topic anymore since it's like playing Dark Souls inside one's own head just understanding it. I just believe in the whole charity aspect of it, as well as meditation.

And mindfulness, because that some good shit right there.

Sometimes I am convinced that Buddha was a fraud intentionally being confusing and contradictory in order to conceal the fact he couldn't live up to the ascetic practices of Mahavira and the Jainists.

Well asceticism is too harsh to begin with...

And remember, he was a Prince *nods*

[New confederate ramenia]

I'm going to put in the minimal effort needed to not act on that affirmation every bloody day for the rest of my life.
What am I saying? It's going to be easy anyways.

If you had no sinful nature, you would still suffer, but you would be at peace because you would be in communion directly with God, knowing God the way that Mary did and the Saints did. You could be stoned to death and ask for their forgiveness, not their torment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMqka3XgHuw

This may be of interest.

The Saints didn't know God in the way Mary did. Mary was born without sin, saints overcome their sinful nature.

[Nusaresa]

I like cats and dogs, they're cute.

lmao

All suffering is either a direct consequence of our own actions (impulse to gamble or getting a preventable illness due to not taking proper measures to stay healthy) or or from a unexpected event or force (be that nature hates you or a person shanked you in your sleep).

Them Christians and their sins. Hah.

Personal safety is your responsibility, should have a claymore outside your house if you want to not be shanked in your sleep :^)

Exaaactly.

Mindfulness and preparedness is virtue.

[Jumalariik]

If you had no sinful nature, you would still suffer, but you would be at peace because you would be in communion directly with God, knowing God the way that Mary did and the Saints did. You could be stoned to death and ask for their forgiveness, not their torment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMqka3XgHuw

This may be of interest.

The Saints didn't know God in the way Mary did. Mary was born without sin, saints overcome their sinful nature.

True. I had originally separated the two clauses, but I opted not to do so out of being silly.

It is true though that the Saints did not know God the same way, but they knew God in a different way than I could. The way Mary did and the way the Saints knew God was closer than the way I do let's just say.

My apologies.

[Conserative Morality]

Dogs follow anything with a stronger without question.The look up to even those that abuse them. They give respect without you having to earn it.

Have you ever even met a dog? Only the second of those is true.

Cats can respect you, though you really have to earn it.
Dogs also cannot wash themselves, dispose of their waste, control their food intake.

Dogs can and do clean themselves, waste disposal isn't exactly a concern so long as you don't shit where you eat, and dogs are fairly nomadic creatures, and dogs can very much control their food intake.

Meanwhile cats can and do colonize and thrive in pretty much an environment. Cats do fine in the wild, but of course they prefer servants to make their lives easier. You can respect and care for your servants. As long as they do what they are supposed to do.

It's weird and pathetic that you seem to approve of the idea of being a cat's servant.

[Novus America]

Cats feel supreme loyalty to their master, themselves. Thing is you will never be their master. They are your master. They answer to themselves alone.

Dogs are plebs. Cats are patricians.
Dogs are simply the perfect slaves.

Yes but if you are the master, why would you want a rebellious good for nothing like a cat? Shouldn't a good and proper person ideally want a dog? Dogs are the most patrician choice. Because only a real patrician can own slaves.

But you are not the master. You are superior to dogs. Cats are superior to you.
If you know your rightful place, you know it is above the dog, but beneath the cat.

[Conserative Morality]

Comparing the word of a few beduins who found a new excuse to rape and murder to the words of 50k people and of photography is a bit silly.

lol

"When it's MY religion, thousands of people are right, but when it's THEIR religion, thousands of people are just stupid!"

[The East Marches]

Personal safety is your responsibility, should have a claymore outside your house if you want to not be shanked in your sleep :^)

Exaaactly.

Mindfulness and preparedness is virtue.

I'm of the opinion that bad shit happens because you didn't use your God given intelligence to take preventative measures. Will you run into bad luck, yes. Can you mitigate disaster by not being a total fuck, also yes. I dislike the fatalistic attitude some take.

[Conserative Morality]

I'm of the opinion that bad shit happens because you didn't use your God given intelligence to take preventative measures. Will you run into bad luck, yes. Can you mitigate disaster by not being a total fuck, also yes. I dislike the fatalistic attitude some take.

Memento mori motherfucker

[Jumalariik]

Comparing the word of a few beduins who found a new excuse to rape and murder to the words of 50k people and of photography is a bit silly.

lol

"When it's MY religion, thousands of people are right, but when it's THEIR religion, thousands of people are just stupid!"

I don't often use straw men, but when I do, I drink Dos Equis.

[Dushan]

I just don't care about the topic anymore since it's like playing Dark Souls inside one's own head just understanding it. I just believe in the whole charity aspect of it, as well as meditation.

And mindfulness, because that some good shit right there.

Sometimes I am convinced that Buddha was a fraud intentionally being confusing and contradictory in order to conceal the fact he couldn't live up to the ascetic practices of Mahavira and the Jainists.

Pro-Tip:

Stop over-intellectualizing stuff, analyzing philosophies and sit down and do some meditation (or play Video games, or much better as Nusa recommands, physical exercise) and get your mind a little more free of all those little Philosophical constructs moving, clashing and blurrying your vision.

Inituitive reason. Your words.

[Ashkera]

If I were to break a murderous psychopath out of an asylum, wouldnt him killing people be indirectly my fault?

Anyway, seriously, gotta run guys. Be back tomorrow.

No it would not.

Oh it definitely would. If you knew there was a high probability (as demonstrated by already being known as a murderous psychopath), even if it wasn't an absolute certainty, then you were extremely reckless. Directly your fault? No. But you knew better and did it anyway.

But hey, since we're doing the religion thing...

If humans can be worthy because they "have choice", because their minds are designed such that they are capable of, and prone to, criminal acts...

...does that mean psychopaths are capable of being worth more in the eyes of God, since they have no empathy, and thus have more freedom to act?

I don't believe in any gods. Because if I did, I would be attempting to fight and murder them.

My friend, you would make an excellent immigrant to Ashkera!

For the hell of it.

...well, maybe not.

[The East Marches]

Yes but if you are the master, why would you want a rebellious good for nothing like a cat? Shouldn't a good and proper person ideally want a dog? Dogs are the most patrician choice. Because only a real patrician can own slaves.

But you are not the master. You are superior to dogs. Cats are superior to you.
If you know your rightful place, you know it is above the dog, but beneath the cat.

I have the gun, I am the most efficient killer. The cat has claws. Therefore if the cat doesn't listen, I can just dispose of it right? Afterall, isn't the number one rule might makes right? The dog is a better follower and therefore the better choice. Unlike the cat, it won't be a wasted long term investment.

[Nusaresa]

Comparing the word of a few beduins who found a new excuse to rape and murder to the words of 50k people and of photography is a bit silly.

lol

"When it's MY religion, thousands of people are right, but when it's THEIR religion, thousands of people are just stupid!"

why are fundies like this

Exaaactly.

Mindfulness and preparedness is virtue.

I'm of the opinion that bad shit happens because you didn't use your God given intelligence to take preventative measures. Will you run into bad luck, yes. Can you mitigate disaster by not being a total fuck, also yes. I dislike the fatalistic attitude some take.

True true.

[Novus America]

Dog girls will be genetically engineered by rightwingers to become the mothers of the new underclass by combining whatever's genetically relevant from dogs with a human form. Fuckin A, gents!

Right-wingers got some serious issues to work out, apparently.

God most likely purposefully didn't allow Himself to know what would happen for the sake of giving us free will.

That kind of defeats the point of omniscience.

Yes but if you are the master, why would you want a rebellious good for nothing like a cat? Shouldn't a good and proper person ideally want a dog? Dogs are the most patrician choice. Because only a real patrician can own slaves.

Dogs aren't slaves. Dogs will rule the house if you let them. Dogs are legionaries - loyal until you prove yourself unworthy of that loyalty.

In other words, I am princeps of my very own dog republic

You can beat an starve the dog, it will still obey. You are the master of your dog plantation.
Dogs obey without getting a reward, automatically respect you without you having to earn it.

They are not legionnaires. They are drones.