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Monarchy v Republic

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Republic
78
57%
 
Total votes : 137

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The Empire of Pretantia
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:51 pm

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Let's rank people in the thread based on whether you'd want them to be an autocrat of a country with reasons why.


Emperor Tier

1. Old Tyrannia for Britain to make the world at once Traditionalist and Sane under a glorious Monarchy.

2. Grey Wolf. Best Fascist. Harness the power of the state and male humanity reach their destiny. I guess. Whatever you want.

3. UMN. Interesting ideas. Would like to see where your brand of Chriatian Socialism would go


Great Tier

4. East Marches/Dushan (this applies to both of you). Something about your rhetoric is interesting. I'd like to see where whatever you beleive in would go. Maybe.

5. Diopolis. Make Catholicism great again. Honestly at this point I don't even care if Muslims wouldn't be there.
Good tier
6. Eisarn-Ara. Can't picture you as a Leader exactly. More just a warrior that does his own thing. But seeing you bring back Volkischness the right way would be something to see.

7. Fahrong/Atelia. because despite some stangely specific Racism , a Perrenial Traditionalist that isn't massively hateful of everyone who isn't you is worth seeing go somewhere.
Russia is too big to be entrusted with you though.
Maybe like just a part of Ukraine to see where it all goes.

LOL

8. RIG/Benuty. *Shudders*

9. Great Kauthar

Nuff said

10. Kievan Peoples. If I wanted a simplistic, narcissistic racist to gain power, I would vote AKP.

What about Pret?
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The Empire of Pretantia
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:53 pm

Conscentia wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:What about Pret?

Apparently you & I don't count as "people in the thread".

They could at least put me in "Why is this guy even here" tier.
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Felrik
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Postby Felrik » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:54 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:
Emperor Tier

1. Old Tyrannia for Britain to make the world at once Traditionalist and Sane under a glorious Monarchy.

2. Grey Wolf. Best Fascist. Harness the power of the state and male humanity reach their destiny. I guess. Whatever you want.

3. UMN. Interesting ideas. Would like to see where your brand of Chriatian Socialism would go


Great Tier

4. East Marches/Dushan (this applies to both of you). Something about your rhetoric is interesting. I'd like to see where whatever you beleive in would go. Maybe.

5. Diopolis. Make Catholicism great again. Honestly at this point I don't even care if Muslims wouldn't be there.
Good tier
6. Eisarn-Ara. Can't picture you as a Leader exactly. More just a warrior that does his own thing. But seeing you bring back Volkischness the right way would be something to see.

7. Fahrong/Atelia. because despite some stangely specific Racism , a Perrenial Traditionalist that isn't massively hateful of everyone who isn't you is worth seeing go somewhere.
Russia is too big to be entrusted with you though.
Maybe like just a part of Ukraine to see where it all goes.

LOL

8. RIG/Benuty. *Shudders*

9. Great Kauthar

Nuff said

10. Kievan Peoples. If I wanted a simplistic, narcissistic racist to gain power, I would vote AKP.

What about Pret?


And me. :(

"Hello darkness my old friend"
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I believe I should have the Freedom to say whatever I like no matter how offensive without negative consequences ( free to criticise me though ).
And do as I like with in the confines of the law.

Pros: Meritocracy, Monarchy, Egalitarianism, free speech and free expression (Most of these are a given)

Cons: Feminism, people who put feelings before fact, and Islam also people who think the "Guilty until proven innocent" mentality is acceptable.

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Jochizyd Republic
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:55 pm

Conscentia wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:What about Pret?

Apparently you & I don't count as "people in the thread".

So? I don’t complain when I don't make it on some guy's list.
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The United Colonies of Earth
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Left-wing Utopia

Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:55 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:
Uxupox wrote:
If I was the supreme leader of the United States with near unlimited powers I'd probably help you out to reclaim your old borders. Share the world you know?

That would be the beginning of a beautiful friendship, which, the Russian Empire and the US actually had for some time IRL.

Civilizing dem heathens and not being at all in conflict with each other has a way of doing things.
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The United Colonies of Earth wrote:Fair enough! Being a Roman citizen was pretty nice. Would be nicer with modern amenities but you can't have it all. The foederati make for a nice exchange, problem is they always want something in return for fighting for you. But I suppose that just shipping off the money is better than shipping off an entire new logistics program.



Per a reform concept I've got in mind, they would be sublet to the Armed Services, potentially granted land holding rights in conquered territories as long as an Imperial Mandate for the prorogation of Citizens Values, Ethics & Mindset is met. Just a way to factory farm quality soldiers & officers back to the Empire itself.

Sweet idea! That covers the demands of the foederati and ensures that future resistance isn't bred from the inactivity of an unaware government.
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to represent the interests of humankind to the other governments of the Galaxy;
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The Empire of Pretantia
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:55 pm

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
Conscentia wrote:Apparently you & I don't count as "people in the thread".

So? I don’t complain when I don't make it on some guy's list.

You damn well should. This is America, you're supposed to complain about everything!
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:57 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:So? I don’t complain when I don't make it on some guy's list.

You damn well should. This is America, you're supposed to complain about everything!

Not everywhere is Tumblr. :p
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Eisarn-Ara
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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:57 pm

Jochizyd Republic wrote:6. Eisarn-Ara. Can't picture you as a Leader exactly. More just a warrior that does his own thing. But seeing you bring back Volkischness the right way would be something to see.



I do appreciate the sentiment, but as a "Manna af þata Háiþ" (Man of the Heath/Heathen), Community & "Tribe" are incredibly important. You may not "See me as a leader"; but never forget, it's not what you know about me, it's what I've let you know.
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I'm pro thrall-taking, are you?
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Uxupox
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Postby Uxupox » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:58 pm

Conscentia wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:What about Pret?

Apparently you & I don't count as "people in the thread".


I wouldn't want to be ranked neither since I'd probably termed as "tyrannical" or something similar since I'd prob genocide a few people.
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The Empire of Pretantia
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:59 pm

Uxupox wrote:
Conscentia wrote:Apparently you & I don't count as "people in the thread".


I wouldn't want to be ranked neither since I'd probably termed as "tyrannical" or something similar since I'd prob genocide a few people.

To be fair, we all have that one group we want to genocide. I say that as a left-winger.
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Conserative Morality
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:59 pm

Roman Republic/Empire - parent of Western civilization - right wing, or left?
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New confederate ramenia
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Postby New confederate ramenia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:59 pm

United Marxist Nations wrote:Let's rank people in the thread based on whether you'd want them to be an autocrat of a country with reasons why.

1. Dio - Catholicism, distributism, government based on subsidiarity, feudalism, good social values
2. Jochizyd - Just the right kind of Muslim (not radical, not liberal), steppe nomads, tribalism
3. UMN - Glorious Stalinist Russia, based Orthodoxy
4. RIG - I want to watch the world burn
5. Kauthar - Can't enforce his ideologies in his own domain, very opposed, but keeps people united
6. Everyone else who's ideologies I dont know that well
probando

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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:01 pm

Eisarn-Ara wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:6. Eisarn-Ara. Can't picture you as a Leader exactly. More just a warrior that does his own thing. But seeing you bring back Volkischness the right way would be something to see.



I do appreciate the sentiment, but as a "Manna af þata Háiþ" (Man of the Heath/Heathen), Community & "Tribe" are incredibly important. You may not "See me as a leader"; but never forget, it's not what you know about me, it's what I've let you know.

Noted.

I meant no offense, there.
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Eisarn-Ara
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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:01 pm

Jochizyd Republic wrote:Noted.

I meant no offense, there.



None taken at all friend, none taken at all.
Ave Nex Alea
Glory & Victory unto the Pact!
I'm pro thrall-taking, are you?
Immigrants're grody; Paris, Berlin & Brussels proved that.
Serbia, Hungary, Austria & Finland have the right idea, preserve European Cultural Integrity!
Dictating matters of policy & legality because of "feelings" is foolhardy at best, and the reason why SJWism is cancerous at worst.
Altruism is worthless outside of a community and in small doses.
We owe you nothing, and you'll like it.
Arabs cannot do "Modern War"
You are all terrible.

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The Empire of Pretantia
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:01 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:Roman Republic/Empire - parent of Western civilization - right wing, or left?

Right wing.

Hierarchical, conservative, religious, and white jkjk.
New confederate ramenia wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Let's rank people in the thread based on whether you'd want them to be an autocrat of a country with reasons why.

1. Dio - Catholicism, distributism, government based on subsidiarity, feudalism, good social values
2. Jochizyd - Just the right kind of Muslim (not radical, not liberal), steppe nomads, tribalism
3. UMN - Glorious Stalinist Russia, based Orthodoxy
4. RIG - I want to watch the world burn
5. Kauthar - Can't enforce his ideologies in his own domain, very opposed, but keeps people united
6. Everyone else who's ideologies I dont know that well

I'm a robotist.
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New confederate ramenia
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Postby New confederate ramenia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:02 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:Roman Republic/Empire - parent of Western civilization - right wing, or left?

Left, mainly because leftists became so obsessed with it during the Renaissance and Enlightenment and now people are taught about how the Greeks and Romans invented democracy
probando

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Postby Uxupox » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:03 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:Roman Republic/Empire - parent of Western civilization - right wing, or left?


It's a patriarchy white cis scum society. What do you expect.
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Postby Dushan » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:03 pm

Jochizyd Republic wrote:4. East Marches/Dushan (this applies to both of you). Something about your rhetoric is interesting. I'd like to see where whatever you beleive in would go. Maybe.


Maybe. Somewhere. Somehow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXd7Y2eqtBE

Eisarn-Ara wrote:
Jochizyd Republic wrote:6. Eisarn-Ara. Can't picture you as a Leader exactly. More just a warrior that does his own thing. But seeing you bring back Volkischness the right way would be something to see.


I do appreciate the sentiment, but as a "Manna af þata Háiþ" (Man of the Heath/Heathen), Community & "Tribe" are incredibly important. You may not "See me as a leader", but never forget, it's not what you know, it's what I've let you know.


Do you happen to know "King of Dragon Pass"? If not get it from GoG, you might like it. : D
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Postby -Fahrong- » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:03 pm

New confederate ramenia wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:Let's rank people in the thread based on whether you'd want them to be an autocrat of a country with reasons why.

1. Dio - Catholicism, distributism, government based on subsidiarity, feudalism, good social values
2. Jochizyd - Just the right kind of Muslim (not radical, not liberal), steppe nomads, tribalism
3. UMN - Glorious Stalinist Russia, based Orthodoxy
4. RIG - I want to watch the world burn
5. Kauthar - Can't enforce his ideologies in his own domain, very opposed, but keeps people united
6. Everyone else who's ideologies I dont know that well

I should probably write on here a full list of my actual beliefs so that im not just that ultra russian traditionalist in peoples eyes.
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Postby New confederate ramenia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:03 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Conserative Morality wrote:Roman Republic/Empire - parent of Western civilization - right wing, or left?

Right wing.

Hierarchical, conservative, religious, and white jkjk.
New confederate ramenia wrote:1. Dio - Catholicism, distributism, government based on subsidiarity, feudalism, good social values
2. Jochizyd - Just the right kind of Muslim (not radical, not liberal), steppe nomads, tribalism
3. UMN - Glorious Stalinist Russia, based Orthodoxy
4. RIG - I want to watch the world burn
5. Kauthar - Can't enforce his ideologies in his own domain, very opposed, but keeps people united
6. Everyone else who's ideologies I dont know that well

I'm a robotist.

I'm not sure what that is, but I'll rank you above RIG
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Postby New confederate ramenia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:04 pm

-Fahrong- wrote:
New confederate ramenia wrote:1. Dio - Catholicism, distributism, government based on subsidiarity, feudalism, good social values
2. Jochizyd - Just the right kind of Muslim (not radical, not liberal), steppe nomads, tribalism
3. UMN - Glorious Stalinist Russia, based Orthodoxy
4. RIG - I want to watch the world burn
5. Kauthar - Can't enforce his ideologies in his own domain, very opposed, but keeps people united
6. Everyone else who's ideologies I dont know that well

I should probably write on here a full list of my actual beliefs so that im not just that ultra russian traditionalist in peoples eyes.

same tbh
probando

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Napkiraly
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Postby Napkiraly » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:05 pm

Conserative Morality wrote:Roman Republic/Empire - parent of Western civilization - right wing, or left?

By modern standards? Right-wing.

Not that that is a bad thing.

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Conserative Morality
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Postby Conserative Morality » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:06 pm

Uxupox wrote:It's a patriarchy white cis scum society. What do you expect.

>> Literally worshipped gods of intersex gender
>> One of the Empire's best-known poems is all about a girl turning into a boy
>> North Africa
>> Multicultural af
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Postby Conscentia » Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:07 pm

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
Conscentia wrote:Apparently you & I don't count as "people in the thread".

So? I don’t complain when I don't make it on some guy's list.

It was more an amusing observation than a complaint. (Although evidently you weren't amused.)

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