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Right Wing Discussion Thread the Third

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Monarchy v Republic

Monarchy
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43%
Republic
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57%
 
Total votes : 137

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Great Kauthar
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Right Wing Discussion Thread the Third

Postby Great Kauthar » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:11 am

Part One
Part Two (Previous)

Poll Question Credits to: Great Kauthar
New polls every 2 weeks if there is a suggestion

Poll 1: Is Cultural Marxism a Problem? (Jochistan) - 54% Voted Yes
Poll 2: Favourite Right-Wing Politicians? (Kauthar) - 25% voted Donald Trump
Poll 3: Favourite Right-Wing Autocrats (Unnamed Island State) - 45% voted Vladamir Putin
Poll 4: Best Right-Wing Countries (Kauthar) - Putin's Russia 21%
Poll 5: Best Right-Wing Idealogue (Legitimists)

Poll 1: What Right-Wing Ideology do you adhere to? - 55 votes for Libertarian
Poll 2 Favourite Right-Wing Economic System - 31 votes for Neoliberalism
Poll 3: Favourite Right-Wing Dictator - 18 Votes Kai Shek and Pinochet
Poll 4: Favourite Right-Wing Dictator PART 2 - David Cameron 49%
Poll 5: Prominent Right-Wing NSers/Favourite Future Right-Wing Dictator - Old Tyrannia 39 votes/29%
Poll 6: Favourite Fictional Right-Wing Dictators - Emperor Palpatine (Star Wars) 43 Votes/23%

Poll 0.1: Continue the Old Poll Y/N
Poll 1: Favourite Right-Wing Ideologies - Libertarianism/Minarchism


This is the third part to the right-wing discussion thread I created in December 2015. 8 Months and three threads, we've had a good run, let's not end it anytime soon. This is what we will discuss:

•The Right-Wing in General
•Right-wing Politics

  • The OP is Unfairly banned for something.
  • A left-winger appears, makes a dismissive or vaguely insulting comment, then disappears without making any effort to debate.
  • Someone calls someone else a "liberal" in spite of the fact that they are blatantly not a liberal.
  • Some attempts to impose their arbitrary and counter-intuitive definition of "right-wing" on everyone else, who are all naturally excluded by said definition.
  • A raging debate breaks out about LGBT issues.
  • Down the bottle if Renewed Imperial Germany is involved in starting above debate.
  • OP asks for poll suggestions, promptly ignores all suggestions from people he doesn't like.
  • A left-winger enters and begins ferociously attacking a political strawman with no relevance to the previous topic of discussion.
  • A right-winger appears with views corresponding almost exactly to the above strawman, causing most other right-wingers in the thread to smash their heads against their desks repeatedly until they pass out from severe brain damage and internal bleeding.
  • Someone, not naming names UNM begins waifuposting
  • An NSG veteran reminisces about the time when the NSG Right was still respectable.
  • Down a keg of blood every time Warhammer is referenced.
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Postby Dagashi » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:17 am

I think a good poll to do would be "monarchy or republic."
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Postby Great Kauthar » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:19 am

Dagashi wrote:I think a good poll to do would be "monarchy or republic."

Favourite government type? That's a lot broader so it could work better.
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:20 am

I'm just going to copy this over from the previous thread.
Old Tyrannia wrote:
The East Marches wrote:What do the gentlemen of the RWDT think of why China never industrialized? Before the West, China had stability, wealth, good government (for the time) and a good level of scientific achievement. What reasons do you think are behind China's lack of such an event. By all means, they should have had one much before the West.

There are plenty of reasons why Chinese technological advancement may have stagnated by the time of the Qing dynasty. Some are social, some economic, others geographical.

I don't have time to address the question as fully as I would like to, but briefly:
    1) Neo-Confucian ideology held agricultural workers to be the basis of society, and merchants were viewed as "parasitic" as they did not produce anything but merely moved goods around. Consequently the Chinese state supressed the rise of a merchant class and China remained an agrarian economy whilst European states moved towards a capitalist production model.
    2) Long periods of stability, prosperity and hegemony over the surrounding states under the Ming and Qing dynasties resulted in little pressure to innovate. Necessity, after all, is the mother of invention; conflict and competition tend to result in technological advancement, whereas peace and prosperity result in stagnation.
    3) In Britain, industrialisation was in part preceded by the widescale adoption of coal as a fuel to replace wood, as the former was abundant and accessible whilst the latter was becoming scarce as a result of widespread deforestation. In China, there was never a significant shortage of wood and there were geographical difficulties with transporting coal from the parts of China where it was found to the major population centres. As such coal was never a practical fuel in Imperial China.
    4) Whilst Neo-Confucianism was fundamentally a rationalist philosophy that may have influenced early modern philosophers in Europe, Chinese philosophers and intellectuals never developed the rigorous empiricism of their European counterparts, and therefore never developed anything similar to the scientific method.
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Postby The V O I D » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:27 am

I agree. Favorite government type.

Don't forget Neo-Bonapartist Dictatorship. I'll settle for just 'benevolent dictatorship', if ye must.

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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:30 am

I'd like to throw 'Chaotic Shitshow' into the mix for favorite government type :P
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:31 am

Also, an amendment to the drinking game:

Down a shot every time Renewed Imperial Germany uses the word 'Puddin' to refer to something other than food.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:34 am

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:Also, an amendment to the drinking game:

Down a shot every time Renewed Imperial Germany uses the word 'Puddin' to refer to something other than food.

Down a keg of blood every time Warhammer is referenced.
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:35 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:Also, an amendment to the drinking game:


Down a keg of blood every time Warhammer is referenced.


And so every RWDT'er died of alcohol poisoning.
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Postby Northern Davincia » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:38 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:Also, an amendment to the drinking game:


Down a keg of blood every time Warhammer is referenced.

Some of us enjoy having a functional liver, thank you very much.
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Postby The V O I D » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:38 am

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:


And so every RWDT'er died of alcohol poisoning.


gg

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Postby Eisarn-Ara » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:39 am

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:Also, an amendment to the drinking game:


Down a keg of blood every time Warhammer is referenced.


Down a keg of bootleg vodka every time a Vikernian edgelords it up.


Down a keg of schnapps every time a NatSoc verbally faps to Uncle Adolfo


You forgot a Few
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:40 am

The V O I D wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
And so every RWDT'er died of alcohol poisoning.


gg


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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:41 am

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
gg


Clearly Pretannia's amendment is a liberal plot to assassinate every Right Winger on NationStates. Well nuh-uh! Aint gonna be that easy!

Not really a plot so much as really good improvisation.
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Postby The V O I D » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:41 am

I have another amendment.

Down a shot of your strongest beverage every time someone gets offended and pointlessly argues their beliefs despite the fact that it won't change anyone's opinion.


Death to yer livers. Bwahahahaha. :lol2:

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Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
gg


Clearly Pretannia's amendment is a liberal plot to assassinate every Right Winger on NationStates. Well nuh-uh! Aint gonna be that easy!


Of course it is. Why didn't I think of that?

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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:42 am

The V O I D wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
Clearly Pretannia's amendment is a liberal plot to assassinate every Right Winger on NationStates. Well nuh-uh! Aint gonna be that easy!


Of course it is. Why didn't I think of that?


Because your too busy trying to use laughing gas instead?
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Postby The V O I D » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:44 am

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
Of course it is. Why didn't I think of that?


Because your too busy trying to use laughing gas instead?


Y'know me too well, Bailey... too well indeed...

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There's nothing like that new thread smell.
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:44 am

The V O I D wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
Because your too busy trying to use laughing gas instead?


Y'know me too well, Bailey... too well indeed...

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That new thread smell...
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:44 am

United Marxist Nations wrote:There's nothing like that new thread smell.

Somebody doesn't shovel shit for a living.
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United Marxist Nations wrote:There's nothing like that new thread smell.


If you can smell the internet, I believe you need to see a doctor immediately. :p

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Postby Dagashi » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:45 am

I've become a lot more sympathetic to Communism recently after learning that "withering away of the state" doesn't mean an end to national governments, but merely the state as a class entity.
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Thu Aug 18, 2016 8:45 am

The V O I D wrote:
United Marxist Nations wrote:There's nothing like that new thread smell.


If you can smell the internet, I believe you need to see a doctor immediately. :p


I imagine the smell of bullshit must be overwhelming. Poor guy. :(
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