To burkini or not burkini, that’s the question.

[Aelex]

That doesn't mean it should be French, it just is.

Even the handful of Corsicans Nationalists we had admitted that they didn't wanted independence anymore. Litteraly no one is contesting the fact that Corse is and should be French.

[Gauthier]

Did that 'French police force Muslim woman on the beach to undress' thing actually happen?

Well, staunch opponents of Islamic misogyny, I hope you are damn proud of yourselves. That's some top-quality women's rights on display right there.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqoGoCZW8AAHPTr.jpg:large
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... nice-beach

As you say, you have got to be proud of yourself when armed police force a woman to take some of her clothes of in the name of "respecting good morals"

That's the police. A mob would be more likely to go further.

[Herskerstad]

Thought they'd just fine them to hell and back. That's a rather odd way of enforcing a ban.

[The Alexanderians]

Did that 'French police force Muslim woman on the beach to undress' thing actually happen?

Well, staunch opponents of Islamic misogyny, I hope you are damn proud of yourselves. That's some top-quality women's rights on display right there.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CqoGoCZW8AAHPTr.jpg:large
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/ ... nice-beach

As you say, you have got to be proud of yourself when armed police force a woman to take some of her clothes of in the name of "respecting good morals"

Back in my day armed police made women put clothing on.

[Gauthier]

Thought they'd just fine them to hell and back. That's a rather odd way of enforcing a ban.

Or making some nutjobs think there's an implied green light to strip naked any woman they assume is Muslim.

[Felrik]

It's a shame that there doing this.

[The Alexanderians]

It's a shame that there doing this.

Brah I nominate you for most passive resistance of the year. This was Canadian levels of polite.

[Alsheb]

Marine Le Pen called. She's pissed that Hollande has overtaken her from the right. She's reported to be working night and day to come up with more extreme islamophobic rules than the PS is already carrying out.

[Vorond]

Ban swimwear? WHY THE FUCK DOES ANYONE CARE??? Don't we have something more worthwhile to legislate? Fucking first world problem bullshit infecting actual politics once again.

[West Aurelia]

Now France has morality police as well.

[Gauthier]

Now France has morality police as well.

But it's okay because they're not Islamic.

[Stadenwick]

Ban swimwear? WHY THE FUCK DOES ANYONE CARE??? Don't we have something more worthwhile to legislate? Fucking first world problem bullshit infecting actual politics once again.

The beauty of first world people is that they need to make unnecessary problem so that they can have an actual problem. Living prosperous and happy is boring yo

[The Alexanderians]

Ban swimwear? WHY THE FUCK DOES ANYONE CARE??? Don't we have something more worthwhile to legislate? Fucking first world problem bullshit infecting actual politics once again.

The beauty of first world people is that they need to make unnecessary problem so that they can have an actual problem. Living prosperous and happy is boring yo

>implying the west doesn't have actual problems of its own
>using decadency stereotypes

[Alsheb]

The beauty of first world people is that they need to make unnecessary problem so that they can have an actual problem. Living prosperous and happy is boring yo

>implying the west doesn't have actual problems of its own
>using decadency stereotypes

Are you really going to deny the decadency of westerners?

[Crurnlark]

I think that the association between burqas and terrorism is somewhat unfair- it's not representative of terrorism. It's not right to conflate the trappings of terrorism with the cultural heritage of the Middle East. There is a correlation, sure, but it isn't special to terrorist groups, any more than semi-automatic weapons or t-shirts.

[Community Values]

>implying the west doesn't have actual problems of its own
>using decadency stereotypes

Are you really going to deny the decadency of westerners?

The decadence is real.

[Community Values]

I think that the association between burqas and terrorism is somewhat unfair- it's not representative of terrorism. It's not right to conflate the trappings of terrorism with the cultural heritage of the Middle East. There is a correlation, sure, but it isn't special to terrorist groups, any more than semi-automatic weapons or t-shirts.

They are banning it because it goes against women's right.

Except they don't seem to notice that banning it goes against women's rights.

[Ifreann]

Apparently the State Council has overturned these bans.

Telegraph
Graun

[Nariterrr]

Now France has morality police as well.

Well their Christian so it doesn't matter...

[Calladan]

Apparently the State Council has overturned these bans.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe- ... ws_central

France's highest administrative court has suspended a ban on full-body "burkini" swimsuits that was imposed in a town on the Mediterranean coast. The ban in Villeneuve-Loubet "seriously and clearly illegally breached fundamental freedoms to come and go, freedom of beliefs and individual freedom", it found.

[Ifreann]

Apparently the State Council has overturned these bans.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe- ... ws_central

France's highest administrative court has suspended a ban on full-body "burkini" swimsuits that was imposed in a town on the Mediterranean coast. The ban in Villeneuve-Loubet "seriously and clearly illegally breached fundamental freedoms to come and go, freedom of beliefs and individual freedom", it found.

Clearly the State Council has been infiltrated by anti-France Anglo-Saxon Muslamicists.

[Wallenburg]

Apparently the State Council has overturned these bans.

Telegraph
Graun

The mayor of Sisco, in Corsica, vowed to defy the State Council's ruling and maintain the ban in his town.

For fuck's sake, he thinks he's a little Andrew Jackson or something.

[Gauthier]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe- ... ws_central

Clearly the State Council has been infiltrated by anti-France Anglo-Saxon Muslamicists.

Next they're going to start passing Sharia Law!

[Gauthier]

Apparently the State Council has overturned these bans.

Telegraph
Graun

The mayor of Sisco, in Corsica, vowed to defy the State Council's ruling and maintain the ban in his town.

For fuck's sake, he thinks he's a little Andrew Jackson or something.

Jackson didn't have any superior authority figures looming over him, someone forgot that part of the lesson.

[Hirota]

Very mixed feelings on this.

On one hand, I'm not convinced that oppressing an oppressive dress code is in itself oppressive. But I don't subscribe to a consequentalist viewpoint most of the time, and I think it would be intellectually dishonest to start doing so now.

On the other hand there are fairly strict dress codes in France when it comes to swimming, and it isn't limited to women or Muslims. I don't think you'll see the Burkini banned outside of France, especially because of their rather agressive approach to secularism.