Ohio Transwoman killed, called "Satan"

[The Vell]

Did you read the link or are you just being cute?

What link? The one where the American Psychological Association observes categories of transgenderism, looks at the incidence rate of transgenderism, gives advice on managing transgenderism and creates a complete epidemiology of transgenderism all prefaced by saying "this isn't a disease but we can totally treat it?" I somehow found it less than persuasive.

So, being transgender is a mental illness?

[Des-Bal]

You mean other than referring to her as "the devil" while he did so, and distinctive history of transphobia, and referring to her as such because she was transgender? I can't possibly imagine what the reason could be to see transphobia as a primary motivator.

If he shot her on the street after having just met her I would see transphobia as the obvious primary motivator. Given that he had a history with her why the hell did he shoot her now? If he found out she'd been stealing from him and he called her high yellow before he shot her that isn't racially motivated- it's just yelling something nasty during the course of a generic murder.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

What link? The one where the American Psychological Association observes categories of transgenderism, looks at the incidence rate of transgenderism, gives advice on managing transgenderism and creates a complete epidemiology of transgenderism all prefaced by saying "this isn't a disease but we can totally treat it?" I somehow found it less than persuasive.

"transgenderism"....implying transgender identity and people are somehow an ideology.

Or more for the fact that transgender identity, in of itself, is non-pathological, and does not meet the qualifications of a mental illness? We've kind of been over this, but if you want to contact the APA directly I'm sure they can give you a better and more detailed breakdown of how being transgender does not, in of itself, meet the qualifications for a disorder or illness. Because it doesn't

Is that term not kosher, transgenderism? I've used it before to refer to transgender people.

[Dagashi Shojo]

Seems rather unlikely that he killed them just because they were trans. It probably had more to do with the mother herself given that the murderer happened to be her ex-boyfriend.

This doesn't make sense in light of the fact he targeted her daughter and called her "the devil." considering Ohio has it's share of fundamentalists, to deny that this man was an ultra-religious nut who targeted a member of a marginal group which daily suffers what she went through, is simply delusional.

[Noraika]

"transgenderism"....implying transgender identity and people are somehow an ideology.

Or more for the fact that transgender identity, in of itself, is non-pathological, and does not meet the qualifications of a mental illness? We've kind of been over this, but if you want to contact the APA directly I'm sure they can give you a better and more detailed breakdown of how being transgender does not, in of itself, meet the qualifications for a disorder or illness. Because it doesn't

Is that term not kosher, transgenderism? I've used it before to refer to transgender people.

Its typically not seen as proper due to its current use usually by individuals opposed to it - usually for religious reasons but not always. Typically speaking, 'transgender identity' is used more. I don't think I've seen 'transgenderism' used in any official context or recent study.

Its just not an accurate term to begin with, and its context often makes it similar to that 'gay agenda' rhetoric people use.

[Grave_n_idle]

To separate Trans murders from Normal murders will just make this even worse...

If people are being targeted for violence because of an issue, it's nonsensical to ignore the issue as significant.

[Svebia]

In my personal opinion, y'all are taking this out of context. The United States Judicial System will likely deal with this, just trust the jury and the Judge.

[Des-Bal]

"transgenderism"....implying transgender identity and people are somehow an ideology.

Or more for the fact that transgender identity, in of itself, is non-pathological, and does not meet the qualifications of a mental illness? We've kind of been over this, but if you want to contact the APA directly I'm sure they can give you a better and more detailed breakdown of how being transgender does not, in of itself, meet the qualifications for a disorder or illness. Because it doesn't

Just like astigmatism references the church of astigmatic cornea.

The APA broke down transgenderism exactly like they would any disease, their actions are inconsistent with their statements.

[Minzerland]

Unfortunate. I find myself apathetic however.

[Nanatsu no Tsuki]

Is that term not kosher, transgenderism? I've used it before to refer to transgender people.

Its typically not seen as proper due to its current use usually by individuals opposed to it - usually for religious reasons but not always. Typically speaking, 'transgender identity' is used more. I don't think I've seen 'transgenderism' used in any official context or recent study.

Ah, got it. It's better to use transgender identity in that case. Thanks.

[Des-Bal]

This doesn't make sense in light of the fact he targeted her daughter and called her "the devil." considering Ohio has it's share of fundamentalists, to deny that this man was an ultra-religious nut who targeted a member of a marginal group which daily suffers what she went through, is simply delusional.

Again, why the hell did he shoot her THEN? Saying something nasty while you commit a murder doesn't mean the nasty thing you said was the reason for the murder.

[Svebia]

To separate Trans murders from Normal murders will just make this even worse...

If people are being targeted for violence because of an issue, it's nonsensical to ignore the issue as significant.

Maybe it's my personal view, but I see two genders. Male and Female. Life will change your gender depending on your choices. If you get surgery for it, then you're the opposite gender. Not a whole new gender. If you want to be called she, or he, or hell. Even it. I shall oblige. Just put hope in the system to deal with this.

[Prusselanden]

We should find this murderer and then we should castrate him with an axe. Without anesthesia.

[Noraika]

"transgenderism"....implying transgender identity and people are somehow an ideology.

Or more for the fact that transgender identity, in of itself, is non-pathological, and does not meet the qualifications of a mental illness? We've kind of been over this, but if you want to contact the APA directly I'm sure they can give you a better and more detailed breakdown of how being transgender does not, in of itself, meet the qualifications for a disorder or illness. Because it doesn't

Just like astigmatism references the church of astigmatic cornea.

The APA broke down transgenderism exactly like they would any disease, their actions are inconsistent with their statements.

Go ahead and tell them yourself if you have an issue, but no they are not inconsistent. If you want you can go back and read the explanations again.

[The New Sea Territory]

We should find this murderer and then we should castrate him with an axe. Without anesthesia.

He's in jail.

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

We should find this murderer and then we should castrate him with an axe. Without anesthesia.

He's in jail.

Makes it easier

[Svebia]

He's in jail.

Makes it easier

Sometimes I wish execution by firing squad was legal in the U.S.

[Grave_n_idle]

If people are being targeted for violence because of an issue, it's nonsensical to ignore the issue as significant.

Maybe it's my personal view, but I see two genders. Male and Female. Life will change your gender depending on your choices. If you get surgery for it, then you're the opposite gender. Not a whole new gender. If you want to be called she, or he, or hell. Even it. I shall oblige. Just put hope in the system to deal with this.

And?

Clearly this IS an issue to some people. An issue they will kill for.

Your personal view doesn't matter in this conversation.

[Des-Bal]

Go ahead and tell them yourself if you have an issue, but no they are not inconsistent. If you want you can go back and read the explanations again.

No, they totally are. They broke down transgenderism like a disease while saying it wasn't a disease.

[Val Halla]

"transgenderism"....implying transgender identity and people are somehow an ideology.

Or more for the fact that transgender identity, in of itself, is non-pathological, and does not meet the qualifications of a mental illness? We've kind of been over this, but if you want to contact the APA directly I'm sure they can give you a better and more detailed breakdown of how being transgender does not, in of itself, meet the qualifications for a disorder or illness. Because it doesn't

Is that term not kosher, transgenderism? I've used it before to refer to transgender people.

Well in my opinion it's a bullshit word normally used by anti trans people to describe transgender people's existence as a weird political ideology and a petty attempt to try and have a technical term for their fake science

[Camicon]

Makes it easier

Sometimes I wish execution by firing squad was legal in the U.S.

Depends on the state. A few still allow it.

[United Socialist Ecuador]

Source

Columbus, Ohio police are investigating the death of 28-year-old Rae'Lynn Thomas, who was shot and killed by her mother's ex-boyfriend, who lived with her family at the time, according to WBNS.

Thomas' mother, Renee Thomas, shared her daughter's final words with local news:

"Mom, please please don't leave me. Mom, I'm dying," she said. "Mom, I love you. Tell my sisters and my brother I love them. Tell my family I love them. Mom, I'm dying, I'm dying, please don't leave me."

Renee Thomas said her daughter transitioned 10 years ago. Rae'Lynn's aunt, Shannon Thomas, said Rae'Lynn was a performer who was dedicated to fashion.

According to Renee Thomas, her ex James Allen Byrd was transphobic and often called Rae'Lynn "the devil." Renee Thomas says Byrd repeated the word before shooting Rae'Lynn in their Columbus home.

"He was in the bedroom and he just came around the corner and shot my [daughter]," she said. After two shots, Byrd grabbed Rae'Lynn and began beating her.

[continued in article]

This is yet another murder of a transperson in the United States, making it nearly 20 in 2016 alone. Anyone who says transpeople just want attention, don't need equality, can wait, or that identity politics is the greatest ebul ever....rethink your positions. It ignores things like this.

Thoughts NSG?

I HATE THAT THESE TRANSPHOBIC FAGGOTS KEEP KILLING MINORITIES! WANT ME TO KILL a person of your RACE/Religion/or personality AND SAY THAT ITS THE DEVIL Because they are completely INNOCENT! God.

[Svebia]

Maybe it's my personal view, but I see two genders. Male and Female. Life will change your gender depending on your choices. If you get surgery for it, then you're the opposite gender. Not a whole new gender. If you want to be called she, or he, or hell. Even it. I shall oblige. Just put hope in the system to deal with this.

And?

Clearly this IS an issue to some people. An issue they will kill for.

Your personal view doesn't matter in this conversation.

This is why sometimes I hate people. A storm is coming and it isn't going to be pretty.
I don't hate you, that wasn't a death threat. I promise. It was me saying the trans community is going to be in a uproar.

[PaNTuXIa]

Can't wait to hear why she "deserved it."

[Wiekszy Polska]

Why do people care about things that have zero effect on their quality of life? Someone is gay? who the fuck cares. Someone is trans? ok?
I could go on forever.....My main point in a nutshell is let people live their lives and mind your own fucking business. Don't like or agree with something? Too fucking bad. Grow a sack and get over it. I'm sorry for the language but the fact we are in 2016 and people still hate for bullshit, nonsensical reasons such as sexual orientation, race, religion, etc.... really pisses me off. Look at the fucking universe for Christ's sake. We are all concentrating on minute differences between us while we are part of a fucking near infinite universe... Wake the fuck up people and realize we are all drops of water in an endless sea(lol). If the earth ended tomorrow, the rest of the universe would go on like nothing happened. I'm sorry for my long rant but I really hate seeing people still being discriminated against for ANY reason. It is absolutely abhorrent, and unacceptable and it needs to end by any means necessary. We are only hurting and limiting ourselves in the long run.