Parts of Europe to return to the German cultural realm

[Angleter]

and Greece should control Sicily, because Greeks used to live there.

We could also give it to the English. After all, the Normans conquered it, didn't they. Or would that mean we'd have to hand it over to the French, since they are owning the Normandy these days? Alright, the Greeks it is. Easier and they've been there before the Normans.

No, the Danes, since the Normans were originally Danes who moved to France.

[Earth II]

and Greece should control Sicily, because Greeks used to live there.

We could also give it to the English. After all, the Normans conquered it, didn't they. Or would that mean we'd have to hand it over to the French, since they are owning the Normandy these days? Alright, the Greeks it is. Easier and they've been there before the Normans.

No, the Danes, since the Normans were originally Danes who moved to France.

Oh, you're right! Forgot about that. And we'd have to think about giving Scotia to the Irish (or Ireland to the Scots. I can't quite remember who invaded whom first)

[Kirav]

But the people who now inhabit these areas are now Poles or Russians, as a result of the expulsion of ethnic Germans and colonisation by the aforementioned peoples. Although how they came to live in these areas could be deemed illegitimate, the fact is that these areas are now culturally Slavic, and deserve to be under Polish and Russian political control by the same logic that you use to support your position that they should have remained part of Germany.

Germany is a free country and the EU has allowed from freedom of movement, thus I would never say those people should be removed - they live there.

But the area should be under german control, and german should be promoted as a language there once again.

So the area should belong to Germany because Germans used to live there? By that reasoning, all of England should belong to Wales, Cornwall and Brittany because Brythonic Celts used to live there, and Greece should control Sicily, because Greeks used to live there.

Nah. England has done quite well with its lands, and sicily...well at least it's better than Greece.

Poland and Russia, however, suck, and we'd be doing those areas a favor by returning them to their rightful owner.

I imagine that the Polish and Russian people who now inhabit these areas disagree with you. They probably prefer being part of the state that has been formed around their culture.

I also don't see why Germany is the "rightful owner" of these areas more than anyone else. The Germans acquired these areas by conquest, and then settled them. The Russians did the same thing. The only difference is that the Germans were living in the territory for a longer period of time.

[Angleter]

and Greece should control Sicily, because Greeks used to live there.

We could also give it to the English. After all, the Normans conquered it, didn't they. Or would that mean we'd have to hand it over to the French, since they are owning the Normandy these days? Alright, the Greeks it is. Easier and they've been there before the Normans.

No, the Danes, since the Normans were originally Danes who moved to France.

Oh, you're right! Forgot about that. And we'd have to think about giving Scotia to the Irish (or Ireland to the Scots. I can't quite remember who invaded whom first)

I don't know, but them Hungarians better haul their damn asses back to the Ural Mountains and stop spoiling what is obviously Slav land.
And the Turks would have to give Turkey 'back' to Greece and go back to Central Asia.
And the Arabs would have to give Iraq to Iran, and all of the Levant to the Aramaics, to whom the only country in any way similar is Israel!

[Kirav]

and Greece should control Sicily, because Greeks used to live there.

We could also give it to the English. After all, the Normans conquered it, didn't they. Or would that mean we'd have to hand it over to the French, since they are owning the Normandy these days? Alright, the Greeks it is. Easier and they've been there before the Normans.

No, the Danes, since the Normans were originally Danes who moved to France.

Oh, you're right! Forgot about that. And we'd have to think about giving Scotia to the Irish (or Ireland to the Scots. I can't quite remember who invaded whom first)

The Irish Gaels (Scoti) invaded the [most likely] Brythonic Celtic Picts, I believe.

[The Atlantian islands]

And now everyone is having a good time.

[Ifreann]

and giving neo-nazis erections that could be used as space elevators.

I laughed out loud.

Then I consider this venture a success.

[Earth II]

And now everyone is having a good time.

Jup. Tut mir Leid, dass dein Thema ins Lächerliche gezogen wird, aber ... meiner Meinung nach ist das die Einzige mögliche Antwort auf deinen Vorschlag.

[Earth II]

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I don't know, but them Hungarians better haul their damn asses back to the Ural Mountains and stop spoiling what is obviously Slav land.
And the Turks would have to give Turkey 'back' to Greece and go back to Central Asia.
And the Arabs would have to give Iraq to Iran, and all of the Levant to the Aramaics, to whom the only country in any way similar is Israel!

Hmmm ... maybe we should start from zero. Haul everyone back to some place in Africa and let the critters have what' theirs.

[New Manvir]

I demand that Mongolia be given half of Europe and most of Asia that was unfairly taken from them.

[Laerod]

Germany needs more breathing space! *trollface*

It's not breathing space..it's the areas that were german long before the nazis came to power, started a war, lost it, and had those areas taken from Germany.

No. That's just going to open up old wounds. Things are finally calming down.

[Ifreann]

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I don't know, but them Hungarians better haul their damn asses back to the Ural Mountains and stop spoiling what is obviously Slav land.
And the Turks would have to give Turkey 'back' to Greece and go back to Central Asia.
And the Arabs would have to give Iraq to Iran, and all of the Levant to the Aramaics, to whom the only country in any way similar is Israel!

Hmmm ... maybe we should start from zero. Haul everyone back to some place in Africa and let the critters have what' theirs.

While we're at it we should probably haul the critters back to where we found them. Now, if everyone can just go to Australia and catch one cane toad, we'll be making a start.

[Angleter]

I demand that Mongolia be given half of Europe and most of Asia that was unfairly taken from them.

I demand that the Vatican City- the Roman city-state- regain its unfairly lost territories. That is: all of Southern and Western Europe, Turkey, Armenia, Iraq, the Levant, and North Africa.

[Duhsadsa]

Flaming Nazis?

Off-topic, but how awesome/scary would it be to have Nazis chasing after you whilst they were ON FIRE?

[FreeSatania]

Ok, I'll drink to that.

"Zum ein tausend jahriges reich!"

[Earth II]

I demand that Mongolia be given half of Europe and most of Asia that was unfairly taken from them.

Now, you can't say that. We europeans drove them stinking horse nomads away with our shining armor and reconquered what had been stolen from us by them after we had stolen most of it from some other stinking peasants who had stolen it from even stinkier horse nomads.

[Andaluciae]

Before you go annexing Poland and Cologne, get your own house in order first.

Or is this a diversion, to draw attention away from domestic failures?

http://www.berlin101.com/?p=253

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/counterpoint/s ... 651185.htm

Posh, just common nostalgia. Same sort of thing happens in the US when people say they want "the good old days", and gawd knows "the good old days" weren't so great for a lot of people. It's a common and boring phenomenon. Give it a generation and Ostalgie will be long dead.

[Ifreann]

Ok, I'll drink to that.

"Zum ein tausend jahriges reich!"

Ein Reich, ein Volk, usw.

[The Atlantian islands]

And now everyone is having a good time.

Jup. Tut mir Leid, dass dein Thema ins Lächerliche gezogen wird, aber ... meiner Meinung nach ist das die Einzige mögliche Antwort auf deinen Vorschlag.

Kein Thema alter. Gestern, als ich aufgestanden bin, hab ich einfach viel zu viel Geschichte gelesen und dachte es wär' halt interessant, die Idee vorzuschlagen, weißt Du. Das heißt aber nicht, daß ich morgen oder übermorgen die Soldaten an der Oder stationieren würde, lol.

[Earth II]

Ok, I'll drink to that.

"Zum ein tausend jahriges reich!"

Ein Reich, ein Volk, usw.

Especially since there has never been something like "A" german people until about 150 years ago. The idea of maybe belonging together after all (speaking more or less the same language etc.) isn't much older than 300 years.

[Old Tyrannia]

Indeed.
Equally, I could say that France, England, Spain, Portugal, Greece & the Balkans, Luxombourg, the Netherlands, and Belgium were all part of the Roman Empire, so they should belong to Italy. Or that most of France was actually controlled by England at one point in it's history so it should be given to Britain. Or that Germany was conquered by Napoleon, and so should be given back to the French.
Get my point?

[Earth II]

And now everyone is having a good time.

Jup. Tut mir Leid, dass dein Thema ins Lächerliche gezogen wird, aber ... meiner Meinung nach ist das die Einzige mögliche Antwort auf deinen Vorschlag.

Kein Thema alter. Gestern, als ich aufgestanden bin, hab ich einfach viel zu viel Geschichte gelesen und dachte es wär' halt interessant, die Idee vorzuschlagen, weißt Du. Das heißt aber nicht, daß ich morgen oder übermorgen die Soldaten an der Oder stationieren würde, lol.

Jaja, Geschichte am Morgen bringt Kummer und Sorgen, oder wie sagt man?

[Earth II]

Indeed.
Or that Germany was conquered by Napoleon, and so should be given back to the French.
Get my point?

Now that's a thought I didn't need stuck in my head.

[Panzerjaeger]

Restore the Holy Roman Empire I say the damn Frenchmen are becoming too uppity with a lack of Germanic Discipline.

[New Manvir]

I demand that Mongolia be given half of Europe and most of Asia that was unfairly taken from them.

I demand that the Vatican City- the Roman city-state- regain its unfairly lost territories. That is: all of Southern and Western Europe, Turkey, Armenia, Iraq, the Levant, and North Africa.

Also, Tunisia deserves its former Carthaginian Empire back.