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[Quokkastan]

Under certain circumstances, I can see this working. If they are indeed adults, have no power relation over another (so, probably same generation), and undergo the genetic testing most non-incestuous couples do (the genetic pool is skewed by siblings, but is still large), and everything is consensual, as the OP suggests, I see few problems emerging.

Where do you live?

[The East Marches]

Octavia & Octavian are not to moral exemplars, absolutely fucking degenerate. Dis-fuckin'-gusting.

Consequently, this is why pakistan is a horrifying country.

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What has he done against the rules? Can we be held accountable such comments now? I'd like to know for my own posts in the future too if this is the case.

[Greed and Death]

excution them and be done with it. Next case.

[Communal Ecotopia]

Under certain circumstances, I can see this working. If they are indeed adults, have no power relation over another (so, probably same generation), and undergo the genetic testing most non-incestuous couples do (the genetic pool is skewed by siblings, but is still large), and everything is consensual, as the OP suggests, I see few problems emerging.

Where do you live?

The US. But I have ties to the disability community and my half sister-in-law is a geneticist, so perhaps I assumed it was more common than it is.

[Felrik]

Octavia & Octavian are not to moral exemplars, absolutely fucking degenerate. Dis-fuckin'-gusting.

Consequently, this is why pakistan is a horrifying country.

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Can I ask how that's trolling.

[Amuaplye]

Yeah, next thing you know, people will be having four wives, or something.

Nowhere near as destructive as doing it with your own family.

How is it "destructive"? I see incest, as nothing wrong. Not to mention, the government shouldn't have their noses in the bedroom. What goes on in there is something the government shouldn't care about.

[Ingskalla]

As a devout Catholic, all I can say is no, no, no, no.

With all candidness? According to the Book of Genesis, human life manifested from two Adam and Eve. Their kids procreated inbreds, who in turn proceeded to pork each other. How can you have such compunction when this occurred?

[Quokkastan]

As a devout Catholic, all I can say is no, no, no, no.

With all candidacy? According to the Book of Genesis, human life manifested from two Adam and Eve. Their kids procreated inbreds, who in turn proceeded to pork each other. How can you have such compunction when this occurred?

And then again with Noah. And then again with Lot's people.

I think God has a fetish.

[Talo Imperium]

As a devout Catholic, all I can say is no, no, no, no.

With all candidness? According to the Book of Genesis, human life manifested from two Adam and Eve. Their kids procreated inbreds, who in turn proceeded to pork each other. How can you have such compunction when this occurred?

I have no idea but I bet there's a special exception involved.

[Sack Jackpot Winners]

But it's consensual health risk.

We don't allow groups of people to commit suicide, even if they all consented to dying while holding hands together.

My thoughts exactly.

[Prosocial]

Completely disagree with it, completely don't want it to be illegal.

[The New Sea Territory]

Hopefully we can all be civil and acknowledge the sensitivity of this issue. With all the passion poured into the LGBT debate it seemed the topic of incest remained taboo with few willing to address it. We live in the 21st century where attitudes towards sexuality have become more open-minded than it was in the past.

Is it hypocritical for progressive societies to legalize gay marriage but prohibit consensual sexual relationships between two adult aged blood relatives? If the law shouldn't exclude LGBT relationships within the realm of acceptability then should it give equal favor to adult consensual incest?

Personally I think incest in general should stay illegal and not given the same treatment as LGBT rights. Even in the case between two consenting adults it should remain prohibited as it would break down our current perception of familial relations (i.e. what it means to have parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles and siblings), not to mention its negative effect on the gene-pool by producing an inbred offspring.

There is undeniably a certain 'ick-factor' to this subject which makes it difficult to approach rationally and hence its rarely discussed in a thread of its own. I'd like to listen to other people's views on this issue with regards to their opinion on incest and whether adult consensual incest should be legalized?

Octavia & Octavian are not to moral exemplars, absolutely fucking degenerate. Dis-fuckin'-gusting.

You are able to call others "degenerate" from that high horse of yours. So moral, much wow.

[The New Sea Territory]

But it's consensual health risk.

We don't allow groups of people to commit suicide, even if they all consented to dying while holding hands together.

Why not?

Morals? God? "It's the law"?

[Big Jim P]

We don't allow groups of people to commit suicide, even if they all consented to dying while holding hands together.

Why not?

Morals? God? "It's the law"?

Whose morals, which god, and whose laws? Some people seem to think their distaste for the subject, their morals or their laws are some kind of universal objective standard.

personally I find the idea of incest to be disgusting, but I am not so arrogant as to assume that means I get to judge anothers choice or force them to live by my standard.

[Yorkers]

Literally wtf

[Yorkers]

Octavia & Octavian are not to moral exemplars, absolutely fucking degenerate. Dis-fuckin'-gusting.

Consequently, this is why pakistan is a horrifying country.

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Does not seem like an impartial judgement.

[Twilight Imperium]

With all candidness? According to the Book of Genesis, human life manifested from two Adam and Eve. Their kids procreated inbreds, who in turn proceeded to pork each other. How can you have such compunction when this occurred?

I have no idea but I bet there's a special exception involved.

We usually call it "special pleading", and it happens a lot when Christianity gets involved.

[Felrik]

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Does not seem like an impartial judgement.

No it doesn't does it.

[The New Sea Territory]

Why not?

Morals? God? "It's the law"?

Whose morals, which god, and whose laws? Some people seem to think their distaste for the subject, their morals or their laws are some kind of universal objective standard.

personally I find the idea of incest to be disgusting, but I am not so arrogant as to assume that means I get to judge anothers choice or force them to live by my standard.

"But that hurts society/the nation/the family/morality/[insert spook here]! Thus we must take away your ability to choose!" /s

[Soldati Senza Confini]

Yea, it mostly depends on the family/culture.

My family could not handle the whole thing.

Then again it was my half-brother with his step-mom (my mother).

what the fuck
that's literally a porno in real life right there
my condolences

Well, at least they didn't decide to record it and put it on YouPorn. That'd have been salt on the wound.

In any case, I ended up disowning him, and my siblings sided with him so I don't talk to them anymore.

I talk with my mom out of responsibility, and I have stayed at home with my dad now.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

That's the least of your problems, depending on who you talk to.

Right, of course. Sorry 'bout your situation by the way.

I specifically was talking about the genetic devastation of the family; though it is easy to see how it could just tear a family apart that way.

Booze, arguing online, videogames, your career, and YouTube makes you forget the situation right quick.

The genetic devastation doesn't show itself until generations of inbreeding. It doesn't show up from one generation.

[Bakery Hill]

Fuck sake, we've got taboos in our society for a reason. Some of us need to get over this "freedom freedom freedom" bullshit. There's nothing progressive about this.

[Darjihad]

Whose morals, which god, and whose laws? Some people seem to think their distaste for the subject, their morals or their laws are some kind of universal objective standard.

personally I find the idea of incest to be disgusting, but I am not so arrogant as to assume that means I get to judge anothers choice or force them to live by my standard.

"But that hurts society/the nation/the family/morality/[insert spook here]! Thus we must take away your ability to choose!" /s

Incest does produce genetic defects in offspring that in turn increase the burden upon social welfare systems, which in turn brings those social welfare systems to the point of rationing who gets care and how much, which in turn leads to laws to discourage incest in the first place.

Remove the social welfare safety net entirely and incest becomes a bad idea that campaigns against itself by example.

[Soldati Senza Confini]

"But that hurts society/the nation/the family/morality/[insert spook here]! Thus we must take away your ability to choose!" /s

Incest does produce genetic defects in offspring that in turn increase the burden upon social welfare systems, which in turn brings those social welfare systems to the point of rationing who gets care and how much, which in turn leads to laws to discourage incest in the first place.

Remove the social welfare safety net entirely and incest becomes a bad idea that campaigns against itself by example.

You do understand that incest doesn't just include genetic offspring, but political too, right?

[Quokkastan]

Fuck sake, we've got taboos in our society for a reason. Some of us need to get over this "freedom freedom freedom" bullshit. There's nothing progressive about this.

You think if incest was legal it suddenly wouldn't be taboo?

"But that hurts society/the nation/the family/morality/[insert spook here]! Thus we must take away your ability to choose!" /s

Incest does produce genetic defects in offspring that in turn increase the burden upon social welfare systems, which in turn brings those social welfare systems to the point of rationing who gets care and how much, which in turn leads to laws to discourage incest in the first place.

Remove the social welfare safety net entirely and incest becomes a bad idea that campaigns against itself by example.

You think that the mere fact of incest being legal would cause people to want to impregnate their relatives in such great numbers that it would make an appreciable impact on social welfare?

Is incest being illegal the only thing that keeps you from having unprotected sex with relatives?