US General Election Thread III: Clinton vs. Trump

[The Qeiiam Star Cluster]

Trump aims to 'jump start' America with new tax plan.

Which can be summed up as: lowering taxes, deregulation and "renegotiate bad deals somehow".

[The Romulan Republic]

Trump aims to 'jump start' America with new tax plan.

Which can be summed up as: lowering taxes, deregulation and "renegotiate bad deals somehow".

So generic Republican economics with some empty Trump posturing added for flavour.

[Maineiacs]

Oh obamacare of course.

I wonder how trump will get countries to pay for the bases in their lands?

Blackmail is such an ugly word but accurate in this case I expect.

Actually, I believe it's extortion more than blackmail.

[Gauthier]

Trump aims to 'jump start' America with new tax plan.

Which can be summed up as: lowering taxes, deregulation and "renegotiate bad deals somehow".

So generic Republican economics with some empty Trump posturing added for flavour.

And by "renegotiate bad deals" he means "welch out on paying them altogether until the debtholders agree to take less in return." Which is Trump SOP when it comes to debts of any kind, including employee wages and contractor bills.

[Eol Sha]

Black protestant pastors are breaking the law by politicking for Hillary Clinton during their sermons.

So this is interesting. What do you all think?

[Khadgar]

Black protestant pastors are breaking the law by politicking for Hillary Clinton during their sermons.

So this is interesting. What do you all think?

It should cost them their tax exempt status.

[PaNTuXIa]

It's a bit unfair that when John Kerry accused the Ohio electoral machines of being rigged, as they were, we applauded him. But when Trump acknowledged it, we called him a conspiracy theorist. I in no way support Trump, but you have to acknowledge the fact that he is anti-establishment, or at least he claims to be. Clinton has been shown to rig elections before, and no doubt she will do it again this election. Trump may be bad, but he shouldn't have the election rigged against him. He's already beatable without rigging.

[Conserative Morality]

Black protestant pastors are breaking the law by politicking for Hillary Clinton during their sermons.

So this is interesting. What do you all think?

I would be more outraged if I didn't know this shit goes on all the time with evangelical churches, at least in my area.

It should cost them their tax-exempt status, but I've my doubts of any real enforcement.

[Galloism]

Clinton has been shown to rig elections before

You must give a source for this.

[Khadgar]

It's a bit unfair that when John Kerry accused the Ohio electoral machines of being rigged, as they were, we applauded him. But when Trump acknowledged it, we called him a conspiracy theorist. I in no way support Trump, but you have to acknowledge the fact that he is anti-establishment, or at least he claims to be. Clinton has been shown to rig elections before, and no doubt she will do it again this election. Trump may be bad, but he shouldn't have the election rigged against him. He's already beatable without rigging.

So you alone have evidence of Hillary committing a felony? You should inform the FBI immediately.

[Hurdergaryp]

Black protestant pastors are breaking the law by politicking for Hillary Clinton during their sermons.

So this is interesting. What do you all think?

I would be more outraged if I didn't know this shit goes on all the time with evangelical churches, at least in my area.

It should cost them their tax-exempt status, but I've my doubts of any real enforcement.

Because that would mean all those evangelical churches should lose their tax-exempt status as well, and we all know that ain't going to happen.

[Neutraligon]

It's a bit unfair that when John Kerry accused the Ohio electoral machines of being rigged, as they were, we applauded him. But when Trump acknowledged it, we called him a conspiracy theorist. I in no way support Trump, but you have to acknowledge the fact that he is anti-establishment, or at least he claims to be. Clinton has been shown to rig elections before, and no doubt she will do it again this election. Trump may be bad, but he shouldn't have the election rigged against him. He's already beatable without rigging.

Provide evidence that the elections are rigged. Provide evidence that Clinton has rigged the elections (note that Clinton and the DNC are not the same thing).

[Hurdergaryp]

It's a bit unfair that when John Kerry accused the Ohio electoral machines of being rigged, as they were, we applauded him. But when Trump acknowledged it, we called him a conspiracy theorist. I in no way support Trump, but you have to acknowledge the fact that he is anti-establishment, or at least he claims to be. Clinton has been shown to rig elections before, and no doubt she will do it again this election. Trump may be bad, but he shouldn't have the election rigged against him. He's already beatable without rigging.

Provide evidence that the elections are rigged. Provide evidence that Clinton has rigged the elections (note that Clinton and the DNC are not the same thing).

It would indeed be very interesting to see all the evidence that is undoubtedly readily available for all to see, which is probably why Pantuxia forgot to link to this utterly condemning evidence.

[Eol Sha]

Black protestant pastors are breaking the law by politicking for Hillary Clinton during their sermons.

So this is interesting. What do you all think?

I would be more outraged if I didn't know this shit goes on all the time with evangelical churches, at least in my area.

It should cost them their tax-exempt status, but I've my doubts of any real enforcement.

The IRS seems unwilling to enforce the rules. According to The Atlantic, it's focused more on "education". Don't really know what that means.

[USS Monitor]

Black protestant pastors are breaking the law by politicking for Hillary Clinton during their sermons.

So this is interesting. What do you all think?

It should cost them their tax exempt status.

^This.

[Alvecia]

I would be more outraged if I didn't know this shit goes on all the time with evangelical churches, at least in my area.

It should cost them their tax-exempt status, but I've my doubts of any real enforcement.

The IRS seems unwilling to enforce the rules. According to The Atlantic, it's focused more on "education". Don't really know what that means.

I think I recall that there's actually a day where lots of Churches make videos and such taunting the IRS. Might have misinterpreted though, cause I can't find the source.

[Neutraligon]

Provide evidence that the elections are rigged. Provide evidence that Clinton has rigged the elections (note that Clinton and the DNC are not the same thing).

It would indeed be very interesting to see all the evidence that is undoubtedly readily available for all to see, which is probably why Pantuxia forgot to link to this utterly condemning evidence.

Clearly. Of course, since the evidence is readily available it should be easy enough for them to link it for us.

[Hurdergaryp]

It would indeed be very interesting to see all the evidence that is undoubtedly readily available for all to see, which is probably why Pantuxia forgot to link to this utterly condemning evidence.

Clearly. Of course, since the evidence is readily available it should be easy enough for them to link it for us.

The yearning I feel for this massive body of hard evidence is growing stronger by the minute.

[Ashmoria]

Black protestant pastors are breaking the law by politicking for Hillary Clinton during their sermons.

So this is interesting. What do you all think?

I guess someone ought to look into that

as soon as they start looking into the white megachurches politicking for republicans.

.....

or catholic churches. my niece and her husband changed churches because their old one started spending too much time talking politics during sermons.

[Eol Sha]

Black protestant pastors are breaking the law by politicking for Hillary Clinton during their sermons.

So this is interesting. What do you all think?

I guess someone ought to look into that

as soon as they start looking into the white megachurches politicking for republicans.

.....

or catholic churches. my niece and her husband changed churches because their old one started spending too much time talking politics during sermons.

I think the IRS should look into it regardless. Really shouldn't be contingent on partisan preference.

[Galloism]

I would be more outraged if I didn't know this shit goes on all the time with evangelical churches, at least in my area.

It should cost them their tax-exempt status, but I've my doubts of any real enforcement.

The IRS seems unwilling to enforce the rules. According to The Atlantic, it's focused more on "education". Don't really know what that means.

They send out nice notes to churches on what they can and can't do, wave their finger at them, and tell them not to do it again.

Basically, pub 1828.

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p1828.pdf

[Khadgar]

I guess someone ought to look into that

as soon as they start looking into the white megachurches politicking for republicans.

.....

or catholic churches. my niece and her husband changed churches because their old one started spending too much time talking politics during sermons.

I think the IRS should look into it regardless. Really shouldn't be contingent on partisan preference.

Honestly I'd prefer to just get rid of the tax exempt status for churches all together. If they're charitable enough to not have to pay taxes fair enough, but I don't see why organizations with huge incomes like so many churches have shouldn't be taxed. Then they'll be free to politic all they like.

[Eol Sha]

I think the IRS should look into it regardless. Really shouldn't be contingent on partisan preference.

Honestly I'd prefer to just get rid of the tax exempt status for churches all together. If they're charitable enough to not have to pay taxes fair enough, but I don't see why organizations with huge incomes like so many churches have shouldn't be taxed. Then they'll be free to politic all they like.

Can't say I disagree.

[Neutraligon]

I think the IRS should look into it regardless. Really shouldn't be contingent on partisan preference.

Honestly I'd prefer to just get rid of the tax exempt status for churches all together. If they're charitable enough to not have to pay taxes fair enough, but I don't see why organizations with huge incomes like so many churches have shouldn't be taxed. Then they'll be free to politic all they like.

I believe to be non-profits or whatever they are still exempt from politicing (to some extent).

[Wallenburg]

I think the IRS should look into it regardless. Really shouldn't be contingent on partisan preference.

Honestly I'd prefer to just get rid of the tax exempt status for churches all together. If they're charitable enough to not have to pay taxes fair enough, but I don't see why organizations with huge incomes like so many churches have shouldn't be taxed. Then they'll be free to politic all they like.

^^This, basically.