US General Election Thread III: Clinton vs. Trump

[AmericanEmpire1]

Lol, credible sources have reported on her health. Fox News (like them or not, they are indeed credible), Russia Today (While being very biased for Russia, they are credible and hate both Trump and Hillary so i would say its credible) and others such as the NY Post

None of them are credible. Fox News viewers on the whole still think that Saddam Hussein helped plan 9/11 and that Obama is a Muslim. People who get their news from Fox know less about the world than people who don't watch the news at all because they're constantly lied to. RT is Putin's propaganda outlet, and Putin is pro-Trump because he wants to see NATO destroyed.

Im going to need some sources for the Saddam Hussein and Obama claims. Also for your second statment. Also, dont forget that RT has shit on Trump just as much as they had on Hillary.

[Ashmoria]

Tell me one thing that Trump has said that is illegal to do

Killing the relatives of terrorists.

steal the oil in Iraq and Syria.

[AmericanEmpire1]

Tell me one thing that Trump has said that is illegal to do

Killing the relatives of terrorists.

To be fair, Trump has backtracked on that statment

[USS Monitor]

None of those is a credible source.

How is Fox News not credible when other networks like CNN or NBC cite them? And RT is biased certainly but they are credible

Fox referred to a town in Maine where the average income is $16,000 as "rich white people." They've run stories claiming British cities with large Muslim populations are "no-go zones" for non-Muslims even when those cities still had large non-Muslim populations and were relatively peaceful. They just aren't reliable.

[Ashmoria]

Killing the relatives of terrorists.

To be fair, Trump has backtracked on that statment

not talking about it isn't the same as backtracking.

[AmericanEmpire1]

Killing the relatives of terrorists.

steal the oil in Iraq and Syria.

He has never mentioned Syria about oil, and he has only mentioned the oil in Iraq when saying that when we took over Iraq, we should have kept the oil. Now, compared to these same oil fields being under ISIS rule, and them being spoils of war, the USA would have had every right to kept them

[Hittanryan]

What reality do you live in? Where did your timeline diverge? Is the Cold War still going because Gorbachev was never named Premier? Is John Lennon alive?

Trump has NO policy platform. One second he's saying we should deploy 30,000 troops to Syria the next he's pretending to be an isolationist. He has NO plans on HOW he's going to enact anything he's proposed. He proposes things that are illegal, impossible, or blatantly self-destructive to the US' interests and the media lets it slide.

Meanwhile "Hillary gets out of the sun for 5 minutes" is considered newsworthy.

Tell me one thing that Trump has said that is illegal to do

"You have to go after their families." He advocated targeting terrorists' families. That's a war crime.

[Jerzylvania]

What are you fucking talking about lmfao


The extent of Fox and RT's "reporting" on her health has been baseless speculation and rumor-mongering.

Fox News actually did a good article that looks in depth at her medical record with numerous doctors. I try to look it up

OTOH, FOX News doesn't believe in science.

[AmericanEmpire1]

To be fair, Trump has backtracked on that statment

not talking about it isn't the same as backtracking.

No, he has officially backtracked

[Ashmoria]

steal the oil in Iraq and Syria.

He has never mentioned Syria about oil, and he has only mentioned the oil in Iraq when saying that when we took over Iraq, we should have kept the oil. Now, compared to these same oil fields being under ISIS rule, and them being spoils of war, the USA would have had every right to kept them

of course he has. that's what he says about defeating ISIS. defeat them then steal the oil.

no there is no right to the spoils of war. stealing another country's resources is stealing.

[Greed and Death]

Old lady gets tired after standing in the sun for a while. News at six.


I can't tell if you think you're funny or if you realize that you aren't but are proceeding anyways.

If Clinton were to withdraw, the DNC would choose the nominee, which would likely be Tim Kaine.

This late in the game they are just going to pick whoever has a campaign.

[AmericanEmpire1]

How is Fox News not credible when other networks like CNN or NBC cite them? And RT is biased certainly but they are credible

Fox referred to a town in Maine where the average income is $16,000 as "rich white people." They've run stories claiming British cities with large Muslim populations are "no-go zones" for non-Muslims even when those cities still had large non-Muslim populations and were relatively peaceful. They just aren't reliable.

proof? and that doesnt answer my question

[Ashmoria]

not talking about it isn't the same as backtracking.

No, he has officially backtracked

well then you better give me a link that is HIM saying it. (no surrogates need apply)

[Jumalariik]

If Trump said the same thing, even 20 years ago, somebody would shoot him in the face. You know this.

Given all the things Trump has gotten away with saying, I think this is false.

For reference, here's just the stuff he's tweeted.

He didn't get away with saying it. You literally sourced a link from the most respected newspaper in America mentioning these things. I hope the irony of this was not lost:

"The media never talks about the bullshit Trump says, I mean look at this NYtimes Article, he says such bad stuff!!!!"

[AmericanEmpire1]

He has never mentioned Syria about oil, and he has only mentioned the oil in Iraq when saying that when we took over Iraq, we should have kept the oil. Now, compared to these same oil fields being under ISIS rule, and them being spoils of war, the USA would have had every right to kept them

of course he has. that's what he says about defeating ISIS. defeat them then steal the oil.

no there is no right to the spoils of war. stealing another country's resources is stealing.

Yes, there is spoils of war. Thats how war work. If you win, you get to make the demands.

[Amerikan Columbia]

steal the oil in Iraq and Syria.

He has never mentioned Syria about oil, and he has only mentioned the oil in Iraq when saying that when we took over Iraq, we should have kept the oil. Now, compared to these same oil fields being under ISIS rule, and them being spoils of war, the USA would have had every right to kept them

The oil fields under ISIS' control belong to Iraq and Syria, no the United States. There would be a helluva lot of international backlash if the US annexed territory in the middle east if that's what your suggesting.

[Jerzylvania]

Tell me one thing that Trump has said that is illegal to do

"You have to go after their families." He advocated targeting terrorists' families. That's a war crime.

It's exactly what gangsters would do. Hence my comparisons of Donny to mobsters in a number of my songs. Trump gangster-ism is right smack dab on the money accurate.

[European Guilds]

Killing the relatives of terrorists.

To be fair, Trump has backtracked on that statment

He has backtracked on almost anything he said. And often then retracted that backtracking. He's not the guy with a plan, he's just saying whatever.

[Jumalariik]

First, Chickengate was reported by tons of sources. Second, Clinton has been getting positive coverage, and all the establishment has sided with her to make her win. Trump is actually right about policy, unlike Clinton.

Trump's policy changes every two days, if not every two minutes.

As does the world.

[AmericanEmpire1]

No, he has officially backtracked

well then you better give me a link that is HIM saying it. (no surrogates need apply)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/don ... e2e3d4d82d
He says here he never meant to kill them, but only go after him which could mean find them and ask them about their relative who is an enemy of the US

[Greed and Death]

not talking about it isn't the same as backtracking.

No, he has officially backtracked

In fairness Trump has backtracked on everything he has said

[Renewed Imperial Germany-]

well then you better give me a link that is HIM saying it. (no surrogates need apply)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/don ... e2e3d4d82d
He says here he never meant to kill them, but only go after him which could mean find them and ask them about their relative who is an enemy of the US

"Go after" means "kill." He's spewing bullshit and your eating it right up.

[Valrifell]

Trump's policy changes every two days, if not every two minutes.

As does the world.

The world changes rapidly, but not as rapidly as Trump changes policy. The global timescale is still in months/years, Trump policy operates in days.

[Ashmoria]

of course he has. that's what he says about defeating ISIS. defeat them then steal the oil.

no there is no right to the spoils of war. stealing another country's resources is stealing.

Yes, there is spoils of war. Thats how war work. If you win, you get to make the demands.

you really don't get to steal their oil in the modern world. that time has passed.

[AmericanEmpire1]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/don ... e2e3d4d82d
He says here he never meant to kill them, but only go after him which could mean find them and ask them about their relative who is an enemy of the US

"Go after" means "kill." He's spewing bullshit and your eating it right up.

He says in the article i just linked that he never meant to kill