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Who Do You Support in the 2016 Election?

Hillary Rodham Clinton (Democrat)
376
37%
Donald J. Trump (Republican)
277
27%
Gary Johnson (Libertarian)
159
16%
Jill Stein (Green)
104
10%
Undecided
40
4%
Other
57
6%
 
Total votes : 1013

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Postby AiliailiA » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:31 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Ailiailia wrote:I hope the state Supreme Court rejects this and leaves Trump on the ballot. He's not going to win the state Electors anyway, all it would achieve is to corrupt the national popular vote figure.

Nothing is going to come of it. The Sec of State has already approved of the ballot and early voting begins in a few days


Nothing may come of it indeed, but not for the reason you seem to think. The state Supreme Court can actually order Trump's name be taken off the ballot, and they have until the 23rd before early voting starts.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:34 pm

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Hey! WTF!
Doesn't it look like Donny is giving a handjob to Bill Clinton just out of camera range? They seem rather chummy. 'Where is Monica when you need her?" ...was probably the joke.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:36 pm

Galloism wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Because Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State and Donald Trump was ... well, Donald Trump. Instead of becoming SoS, Hillary should have gotten a reality show.

Jesus that sounds like the worst reality show ever.

Probably. I think. We'd have to consider the apprentice too.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_television

The thing is, once you're seen as an "entertainer" by the public and the media, you're untouchable.
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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:37 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:(Image)

Hey! WTF!
Doesn't it look like Donny is giving a handjob to Bill Clinton just out of camera range? They seem rather chummy. 'Where is Monica when you need her?" ...was probably the joke.

:rofl:
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Postby Galloism » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:37 pm

So, hillary's 'gross generalization' is... not exactly wrong. She's in the neighborhood of the mark - possibly a little too generous. Figures don't lie.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57d3b ... ent=safari
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Postby AiliailiA » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:37 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:

Hey! WTF!
Doesn't it look like Donny is giving a handjob to Bill Clinton just out of camera range?


The picture is oddly wide and not very tall, it was probably cropped to give just that impression.

A hand-job from the Donald ... I'd probably laugh too.
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Postby Minivanistan » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:38 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:(Image)

Hey! WTF!
Doesn't it look like Donny is giving a handjob to Bill Clinton just out of camera range? They seem rather chummy. 'Where is Monica when you need her?" ...was probably the joke.

As a life long friend, Donald has been on a personal quest to straighten out that strange kink in Bill's tonsil wash dispenser.
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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:40 pm

Galloism wrote:So, hillary's 'gross generalization' is... not exactly wrong. She's in the neighborhood of the mark - possibly a little too generous. Figures don't lie.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57d3b ... ent=safari

:D Can't offend the voter, no, that's the sacred cow.
Even when they are indeed anathematic in beliefs.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:40 pm

Hittanryan wrote:
Galloism wrote:
Just read this.

A front to buy himself gifts, route money back into his own pocket, and buy political influence while dodging taxes and using other people's money.

Why is it the Clinton foundation the one people keep talking about?

The "liberal" media has decided it wants Clinton to lose.


nah they think Clinton will win easily and just want to pretend that its a horse race and that they aren't totally in the tank for her.
whatever

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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:46 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
Hittanryan wrote:The "liberal" media has decided it wants Clinton to lose.


nah they think Clinton will win easily and just want to pretend that its a horse race and that they aren't totally in the tank for her.

It's the hideous "fairness doctrine."

"Okay, so we have to find negative things to report about Secretary Clinton."
"Uhm, why, sir? There aren't that many and they aren't anywhere near as bad as the stuff Trump has done."
"Because we have to be fair! That means they're both equally good and equally bad."
"But ... she's way better than he is."
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Postby Dalvius » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:47 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
nah they think Clinton will win easily and just want to pretend that its a horse race and that they aren't totally in the tank for her.

It's the hideous "fairness doctrine."

"Okay, so we have to find negative things to report about Secretary Clinton."
"Uhm, why, sir? There aren't that many and they aren't anywhere near as bad as the stuff Trump has done."
"Because we have to be fair! That means they're both equally good and equally bad."
"But ... she's way better than he is."
"Great Caesar's Ghost! What part of 'fair' are you having trouble with, Kent?"

I couldn't help but imagine that in Zoidberg's voice.
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Postby Socialist Nordia » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:48 pm

Hittanryan wrote:
Galloism wrote:
Just read this.

A front to buy himself gifts, route money back into his own pocket, and buy political influence while dodging taxes and using other people's money.

Why is it the Clinton foundation the one people keep talking about?

The "liberal" media has decided it wants Clinton to lose.

They've decided the possibility of having Trump I the White House to report about would be good for their ratings, and outweighs the risk of Trump eliminating free press.
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Postby Shonburg » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:49 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:

Hey! WTF!
Doesn't it look like Donny is giving a handjob to Bill Clinton just out of camera range?


The picture is oddly wide and not very tall, it was probably cropped to give just that impression.

A hand-job from the Donald ... I'd probably laugh too.

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Postby Gauthier » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:52 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
Socialist Nordia wrote:Trump supporters wanted to get political correctness out of politics. They got what they wished for when they were called a "basket of deplorables". Hillary finally came out and said something off the cuff(that was very true) and now they're acting all offended. They're a bunch of hypocrites. After they've backed a man who has disparaged countless groups of actual hard-working Americans shamelessly, they're going to act offended after finally being called out for who they really are.


the whining over being called names is hilarious.


Crying about political correctness and then demanding their own safe spaces.
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Postby Socialist Nordia » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:52 pm

Galloism wrote:So, hillary's 'gross generalization' is... not exactly wrong. She's in the neighborhood of the mark - possibly a little too generous. Figures don't lie.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57d3b ... ent=safari

She's just telling like it is. I thought that was why people liked Trump, because he's off the cuff and politically incorrect 24/7. Now Hillary does it one time, and everyone is losing their minds. It's totally fine to insult Muslims, Mexicans, women, African Americans, etc, but god forbid someone says something bad about the white male heterosexual Christians who support Trump! Apparently only this is a total outrage.
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:54 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:(Image)

Hey! WTF!
Doesn't it look like Donny is giving a handjob to Bill Clinton just out of camera range? They seem rather chummy. 'Where is Monica when you need her?" ...was probably the joke.


Bill gave him good practice for Putin.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:55 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
nah they think Clinton will win easily and just want to pretend that its a horse race and that they aren't totally in the tank for her.

It's the hideous "fairness doctrine."

"Okay, so we have to find negative things to report about Secretary Clinton."
"Uhm, why, sir? There aren't that many and they aren't anywhere near as bad as the stuff Trump has done."
"Because we have to be fair! That means they're both equally good and equally bad."
"But ... she's way better than he is."
"Great Caesar's Ghost! What part of 'fair' are you having trouble with, Kent?"

and there are so few of them compared to trump that they have to beat the same email and Benghazi drum over and over again.
whatever

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Postby Gauthier » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:55 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:It's the hideous "fairness doctrine."

"Okay, so we have to find negative things to report about Secretary Clinton."
"Uhm, why, sir? There aren't that many and they aren't anywhere near as bad as the stuff Trump has done."
"Because we have to be fair! That means they're both equally good and equally bad."
"But ... she's way better than he is."
"Great Caesar's Ghost! What part of 'fair' are you having trouble with, Kent?"

and there are so few of them compared to trump that they have to beat the same email and Benghazi drum over and over again.


And pray that the Russians find or edit in something.
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:56 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:

Hey! WTF!
Doesn't it look like Donny is giving a handjob to Bill Clinton just out of camera range?


The picture is oddly wide and not very tall, it was probably cropped to give just that impression.

A hand-job from the Donald ... I'd probably laugh too.


Imagine repetetive squeaking sounds.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:58 pm

Socialist Nordia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Because Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State and Donald Trump was ... well, Donald Trump. Instead of becoming SoS, Hillary should have gotten a reality show.

She could still be SoS and have a reality show about her as SoS.

Isn't that basically CBS's Madam Secretary?
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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:59 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Ailiailia wrote:
The picture is oddly wide and not very tall, it was probably cropped to give just that impression.

A hand-job from the Donald ... I'd probably laugh too.


Imagine repetetive squeaking sounds.

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Postby Camicon » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:02 pm

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I didn't say it was all hunky-dory. I said it was working "fairly well", if the goal was to hasten the end of the Assad regime. Daesh's rise and Russian intervention changed that.

You said "... arming rebels in Syria wasn't when it went bad. It was going okay until ISIS arose". No other qualifiers, no other context. You said that throwing weapons and ammo at Syrian rebel groups was "going okay until [Daesh] arose", which itself is an incorrect statement, while also being incredibly naive; throwing weapons and ammunition into the Syrian Shitstorm was a terrible idea and was always going to end badly, even if it had resulted in Assad's regime being ousted. Giving violent, warring factions more ways to kill each other doesn't stop the violence or war.
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Postby Yumyumsuppertime » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:04 pm

So Donald Trump used his fake charity to pay off Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi with other people's money so that she would drop a lawsuit against his fraud-ridden "university".

He's a one-man Mafia.

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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:08 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:So Donald Trump used his fake charity to pay off Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi with other people's money so that she would drop a lawsuit against his fraud-ridden "university".

He's a one-man Mafia.

Now, now, I'm sure that after a careful consideration of the evidence and the applicable law, Ms Bondi simply decided that it was not in the interests of the people of Florida to ... to ... p-purs ,,, :lol: No, I can't, I just can't! *runs away*
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Postby Gauthier » Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:08 pm

Yumyumsuppertime wrote:So Donald Trump used his fake charity to pay off Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi with other people's money so that she would drop a lawsuit against his fraud-ridden "university".

He's a one-man Mafia.


But the "liberal media" wants him elected.
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If a political figure makes an accusation of wrongdoing without evidence, odds are probable that the accuser or an associate thereof has in fact committed the very same act, possibly to a worse degree.
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