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Who Do You Support in the 2016 Election?

Hillary Rodham Clinton (Democrat)
376
37%
Donald J. Trump (Republican)
277
27%
Gary Johnson (Libertarian)
159
16%
Jill Stein (Green)
104
10%
Undecided
40
4%
Other
57
6%
 
Total votes : 1013
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:12 pm

La Cosa Fedora wrote:If only this could work, and for every state. Then we could have a race between the grownups, Clinton and Johnson.

Hooray for authoritarianism!
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Postby Galloism » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:13 pm

Ashmoria wrote:a must read article from the Washington post about the trump foundation

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

my fav quote so far


In two cases, he has used money from his charity to buy himself a gift. In one of those cases — not previously reported — Trump spent $20,000 of money earmarked for charitable purposes to buy a six-foot-tall painting of himself.


Just read this.

A front to buy himself gifts, route money back into his own pocket, and buy political influence while dodging taxes and using other people's money.

Why is it the Clinton foundation the one people keep talking about?
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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:15 pm

Pantuxia wrote:
La Cosa Fedora wrote:If only this could work, and for every state. Then we could have a race between the grownups, Clinton and Johnson.

Hooray for authoritarianism!

We must all walk the path.
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:16 pm

Pantuxia wrote:
La Cosa Fedora wrote:If only this could work, and for every state. Then we could have a race between the grownups, Clinton and Johnson.

Hooray for authoritarianism!

Authoritarianism how?
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:17 pm

Neanderthaland wrote:
Vlamistaatti wrote:Must be getting desperate then.

next resort, start re-writing the ballot papers?

It might not be a smart move, but it's not a desperate one.

Trump has no chance of winning Minnesota. This is the state that voted for Mondale.

The only state that voted for Mondale.
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:17 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Pantuxia wrote:Hooray for authoritarianism!

A Trump supporter appeared!

>anarchist
>trump supporter
Are you even trying? Just because I don't worship Hillary Clinton, and actually want a free and open election, doesn't make me a Trump supporter. All I'm advocating for is a free election.

Edit: Really? Taking him off the ballot doesn't seem just a little authoritarian to you?
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Postby Genivaria » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:18 pm

Pantuxia wrote:
Genivaria wrote:A Trump supporter appeared!

>anarchist
>trump supporter
Are you even trying? Just because I don't worship Hillary Clinton, and actually want a free and open election, doesn't make me a Trump supporter. All I'm advocating for is a free election.

A free election isn't in danger, unless you count the massive voter suppression going on.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:19 pm

Galloism wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:a must read article from the Washington post about the trump foundation

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

my fav quote so far




Just read this.

A front to buy himself gifts, route money back into his own pocket, and buy political influence while dodging taxes and using other people's money.

Why is it the Clinton foundation the one people keep talking about?


I love that he gave the police charity $150k of other people's money then charged them for the use of mar-a-lago to have their gala.
whatever
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:19 pm

Wallenburg wrote:I Want my Hillary ~ (apologies to Dire Straits for "Money for Nothing")

(4x)
I want my...
I want my Hillary...

Look at them eMails, that's the way you do it,
Makin' scandals on the NBC.

You ain't pollin', that's the way you do it,
Money from donors and votes for free.

Now, you ain't pollin', that's the way you do it!
Let me tell you, these voters ain't dumb.
Maybe make a scandal with your work for Goldwater,
Maybe these scandals leave you numb.

We got to run right, back to the center,
Real progressives, they hate Trump so you got 'em trapped!
We got to move these GOP outcasts,
We got to move these independents!

See the candidate with the skin tan and the shoutin'?
Yeah buddy, that's a toupee.
That little asshole's got his name on an airplane,
That little asshole, he's a billionaire!

We got to run right, back to the center,
Real progressives, they hate Trump so you got 'em trapped!
We got to move these GOP outcasts,
We got to move these independents!

I should'a voted for public healthcare,
I should'a voted against Iraq.
Look at that gramma, she got it stickin' in the DNC
Man we could have some fun.
And Trump's up there, what's that? Fascistic noises?
Screamin' at the cameras like a chimpanzee!
Oh, that ain't pollin', that's the way you do it,
Get your money from donors, get your votes for free

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Listen here, now,
You ain't pollin', that's the way you do it,
You makin' scandals on the NBC.
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Money from donors and your votes for free.

Money from donors, votes for free.
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Get your money from donors, and your votes for free.
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(8x) Get your money from donors, and your votes for free.

That ain't pollin'!

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:20 pm

Pantuxia wrote:
Genivaria wrote:A Trump supporter appeared!

>anarchist
>trump supporter
Are you even trying? Just because I don't worship Hillary Clinton, and actually want a free and open election, doesn't make me a Trump supporter. All I'm advocating for is a free election.

Edit: Really? Taking him off the ballot doesn't seem just a little authoritarian to you?

Which isn't actually happening.
But please tell me how favoring a democrat and libertarian is authoritarian.
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Postby AiliailiA » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:20 pm

I hope the Minnesota Supreme Court rejects this and leaves Trump on the ballot. He's not going to win the state Electors anyway, all it would achieve is to corrupt the national popular vote figure.
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Postby Minivanistan » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:21 pm

Galloism wrote:
Just read this.

A front to buy himself gifts, route money back into his own pocket, and buy political influence while dodging taxes and using other people's money.

Why is it the Clinton foundation the one people keep talking about?

Because the scope of Trumps financial self-service is very limited in comparison.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:21 pm

Imperial Union of America wrote:
Minnesota Democrats have sued to get Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump’s name removed from the state’s general election ballots.

The Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party’s Thursday lawsuit claims the Minnesota Republican Party failed to nominate its presidential electors, the people who cast the state’s 10 electoral college votes, in accordance with state law. Keith Downey, the chair of the Minnesota Republican Party, said last month that the party called a special meeting to approve alternative electors because it had previously neglected to do so.



Http://www.twincities.com/2016/09/08/tr ... s-lawsuit/

This is stupid in my opinion. Even if they don't succeed, it is great propoganda for Trump. If they do succeed, trump would never win Minnesota anyway. Maybe Johnson might get the state instead as a result.
But it would help feed into that "rigged" narrative Trump has been running.

In any case, the only other time a major presidential candidate that I can think of who didn't make a ballot in a major state is Abraham Lincoln in the southern states right before the civil war.


Not to mention that whole gaffe where hillary claimed a quarter of the US electorate is racist, xenophobic etc. Hillary is not a very likeable person anyway. This is not helping her at all.

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Postby La Cosa Fedora » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:21 pm

Pantuxia wrote:
La Cosa Fedora wrote:If only this could work, and for every state. Then we could have a race between the grownups, Clinton and Johnson.

Hooray for authoritarianism!

The election would still be free, just with Gary Johnson instead of Trump. It could be a normal election instead of this Weimar flashback thing we have going on.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:23 pm

Ailiailia wrote:I hope the state Supreme Court rejects this and leaves Trump on the ballot. He's not going to win the state Electors anyway, all it would achieve is to corrupt the national popular vote figure.

Nothing is going to come of it. The Sec of State has already approved of the ballot and early voting begins in a few days
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Postby The United Colonies of Earth » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:24 pm

Pantuxia wrote:
Genivaria wrote:A Trump supporter appeared!

>anarchist
>trump supporter
Are you even trying? Just because I don't worship Hillary Clinton, and actually want a free and open election, doesn't make me a Trump supporter. All I'm advocating for is a free election.

Edit: Really? Taking him off the ballot doesn't seem just a little authoritarian to you?

After some review it does.
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Postby AiliailiA » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:24 pm

La Cosa Fedora wrote:
Pantuxia wrote:Hooray for authoritarianism!

The election would still be free, just with Gary Johnson instead of Trump. It could be a normal election instead of this Weimar flashback thing we have going on.


Banning individual candidates from running is a hallmark of sham democracies. That is absolutely NOT a free election.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:24 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
Galloism wrote:
Just read this.

A front to buy himself gifts, route money back into his own pocket, and buy political influence while dodging taxes and using other people's money.

Why is it the Clinton foundation the one people keep talking about?


I love that he gave the police charity $150k of other people's money then charged them for the use of mar-a-lago to have their gala.


Yeah, and for more than they got from him, he billed them $276k. WTF?
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Postby Hittanryan » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:26 pm

Galloism wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:a must read article from the Washington post about the trump foundation

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

my fav quote so far




Just read this.

A front to buy himself gifts, route money back into his own pocket, and buy political influence while dodging taxes and using other people's money.

Why is it the Clinton foundation the one people keep talking about?

The "liberal" media has decided it wants Clinton to lose.
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Postby Ashmoria » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:26 pm

Jerzylvania wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:
I love that he gave the police charity $150k of other people's money then charged them for the use of mar-a-lago to have their gala.


Yeah, and for more than they got from him, he billed them $276k. WTF?

he cant even donate the use of the freaking facilities.

in theory they still made money from the gala attendees.
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Postby Farnhamia » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:28 pm

Galloism wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:a must read article from the Washington post about the trump foundation

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

my fav quote so far




Just read this.

A front to buy himself gifts, route money back into his own pocket, and buy political influence while dodging taxes and using other people's money.

Why is it the Clinton foundation the one people keep talking about?

Because Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State and Donald Trump was ... well, Donald Trump. Instead of becoming SoS, Hillary should have gotten a reality show.
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Postby Galloism » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:29 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Galloism wrote:
Just read this.

A front to buy himself gifts, route money back into his own pocket, and buy political influence while dodging taxes and using other people's money.

Why is it the Clinton foundation the one people keep talking about?

Because Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State and Donald Trump was ... well, Donald Trump. Instead of becoming SoS, Hillary should have gotten a reality show.

Jesus that sounds like the worst reality show ever.

Probably. I think. We'd have to consider the apprentice too.
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Postby Thermodolia » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:29 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Galloism wrote:
Just read this.

A front to buy himself gifts, route money back into his own pocket, and buy political influence while dodging taxes and using other people's money.

Why is it the Clinton foundation the one people keep talking about?

Because Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State and Donald Trump was ... well, Donald Trump. Instead of becoming SoS, Hillary should have gotten a reality show.

She'd still be hated
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Postby Socialist Nordia » Sat Sep 10, 2016 4:31 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Galloism wrote:
Just read this.

A front to buy himself gifts, route money back into his own pocket, and buy political influence while dodging taxes and using other people's money.

Why is it the Clinton foundation the one people keep talking about?

Because Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State and Donald Trump was ... well, Donald Trump. Instead of becoming SoS, Hillary should have gotten a reality show.

She could still be SoS and have a reality show about her as SoS.
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