US General Election Thread III: Clinton vs. Trump

[Socialist Nordia]

If the Trump campaign was competent enough to go through the process, this wouldn't be an issue.

[Thermodolia]

The Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party isn't the Democratic Party.

Actually, it is. It's the state affiliate of the national Democratic Party in Minnesota.

It's affilated with the DNC but it is separate from them

[Thermodolia]

If the Trump campaign was competent enough to go through the process, this wouldn't be an issue.

The ballot has already been approved by the Democratic Secretary of State, nothing is happening.

[Grinning Dragon]

Actually, it is. It's the state affiliate of the national Democratic Party in Minnesota.

It's affiliated with the DNC but it is separate from them

As someone who was bred born and raised in that god awful State, the dfl is understood as, and referred to as the democratic party by pretty much 99% of Minnesotan's.

edit to add: growing up I had never heard of anybody say dfl, except on the radio, newspapers/print or tv.

[Minivanistan]

And why should he even bother to make an effort to understand doors? When you are as great as Donald Trump, you can simply hire people to take care of the door enigma for you.

He probably does have people to open doors for him.

Even specialists who can handle the grand variety of knobbed, revolving, security barred, simple push/pull, car doors, etc. Even a guy to trip the automatic doors just to safebet they are indeed open when Trump steps up to them.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

I was just happy to hear something from Hillary Clinton that didn't sound like it had been run by twenty different focus groups for approval before it hit the teleprompter. She also wasn't entirely wrong.

I'm a little miffed that she was forced to apologize. But I don't think that this will affect anything.

I kind of liked her apology: "You're right, I shouldn't have said half". Not "I shouldn't have said this at all", but rather, "My estimate was off".

"Last night I was 'grossly generalistic,' and that's never a good idea. I regret saying 'half' -- that was wrong," Clinton said in a statement in which she also vowed to call out "bigotry" in Trump's campaign.

[Socialist Nordia]

I was just happy to hear something from Hillary Clinton that didn't sound like it had been run by twenty different focus groups for approval before it hit the teleprompter. She also wasn't entirely wrong.

She wasn't. And if Trump supporters' delicate feelings can't handle a bit of political incorrectness, then maybe they should reconsider voting for the embodiment of political incorrectness and the insulter of countless hard working Americans.

[Thermodolia]

I'm a little miffed that she was forced to apologize. But I don't think that this will affect anything.

I kind of liked her apology: "You're right, I shouldn't have said half". Not "I shouldn't have said this at all", but rather, "My estimate was off".

"Last night I was 'grossly generalistic,' and that's never a good idea. I regret saying 'half' -- that was wrong," Clinton said in a statement in which she also vowed to call out "bigotry" in Trump's campaign.

Damn. I like this, she's still sticking to it and apologizing without completely going back on it.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Clickbait thread is Clickbait.

And full of half-truths

And belongs in the General Election thread to begin with.

[Ashmoria]

I was just happy to hear something from Hillary Clinton that didn't sound like it had been run by twenty different focus groups for approval before it hit the teleprompter. She also wasn't entirely wrong.

entirely?

there are some of those categories where far more than half of trump supports fit.

[Jerzylvania]

a must read article from the Washington post about the trump foundation

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

my fav quote so far

In two cases, he has used money from his charity to buy himself a gift. In one of those cases — not previously reported — Trump spent $20,000 of money earmarked for charitable purposes to buy a six-foot-tall painting of himself.

It's no wonder he's being audited. He's a HUGE crook.

[The Lone Alliance]

Cause there's a difference.
The difference is that Trump insults everyone but the voter base.

He'll insult other politicians, Foreigners, illegals, the Press, and rich people he doesn't like but none of them are Working class voters.

Cause he's a populist and he was at least smart enough to know not to do that.

He has insulted the voter base. Women, Latinos, Muslims, the disabled, veterans.

Of the list the only ones that apply on the Campaign trail that have been generalized are Muslims. The rest of his attacks have been on specific people who are a part of said groups.

They could also be pictures from early in the campaign before most of the public tuned into the election.

Actually it's not very deceptive at all, Hillary doesn't get as many people in her rallies in General but I'm guessing that's mostly because Hillary is boring compared to Trump.

I bet some people go to Trump rallies simply for the showmanship and enter and leave with zero intention of voting for him.

Hillary doesn't need huge rallies, most of the people voting for her already know what they're going to get out of her so they don't need rallies to convince them.

[Greed and Death]

The Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party isn't the Democratic Party. Besides it was a democrat that approved Trump on the ballot:

To finish the process, the party called an executive committee meeting to select alternative electors to join the 10 electors it had nominated at its state convention in May. Then it submitted the final paperwork, and Minnesota Secretary of State Steve Simon accepted the filing and added Trump and vice presidential candidate Mike Pence as choices in the Nov. 8 election.

The petition says that Simon, a Democrat, should not have accepted the Republican Party’s petition to get Trump on the ballot.

They are the state level Democratic party formed from the merger of the Minnesota Democratic party and the farmer labor party in 1944.
all five of the affiliated Democratic party representatives in the House are members of the DFL.

The only other democratic affiliate in state is The North Dakota Democratic-Nonpartisan League Party.

[Thermodolia]

And full of half-truths

And belongs in the General Election thread to begin with.

So that makes it spam.

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It's affiliated with the DNC but it is separate from them

As someone who was bred born and raised in that god awful State, the dfl is understood as, and referred to as the democratic party by pretty much 99% of Minnesotan's.

edit to add: growing up I had never heard of anybody say dfl, except on the radio or tv.

Interesting. I guess because we don't have that here, I thought it was different than the DNC.

No matter though it's not going to change anything as it's just like a state level party suing instead of the DNC

[Ashmoria]

a must read article from the Washington post about the trump foundation

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

my fav quote so far

It's no wonder he's being audited. He's a HUGE crook.

I'm hoping he will take a huge fall from this campaign revealing and focusing attention on his illegal activities.

[AiliailiA]

Actually, it is. It's the state affiliate of the national Democratic Party in Minnesota.

It's affilated with the DNC but it is separate from them

The Vermont branch is also an affiliate ... so when Bernie "became a Democrat" he didn't really?

[Thermodolia]

The Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party isn't the Democratic Party. Besides it was a democrat that approved Trump on the ballot:

They are the state level Democratic party formed from the merger of the Minnesota Democratic party and the farmer labor party in 1944.
all five of the affiliated Democratic party representatives in the House are members of the DFL.

The only other democratic affiliate in state is The North Dakota Democratic-Nonpartisan League Party.

The NDD-NLP isn't in Minnesota; it's, shockingly, in North Dakota.

[Jerzylvania]

Cause there's a difference.
The difference is that Trump insults everyone but the voter base.

He'll insult other politicians, Foreigners, illegals, the Press, and rich people he doesn't like but none of them are Working class voters.

Cause he's a populist and he was at least smart enough to know not to do that.

Trump hasn't insulted his voter base. He has insulted; the LGBTQ community, the Hispanic Americans, Native Americans, blacks, Jews, veterans, disabled, and women.

...also our top generals, our military, the last three Presidents of the US, intelligence community and America itself whom he insists isn't great.

[Thermodolia]

It's affilated with the DNC but it is separate from them

The Vermont branch is also an affiliate ... so when Bernie "became a Democrat" he didn't really?

Sanders was a independent that caucused with the democrats so no.

[Ashmoria]

Trump hasn't insulted his voter base. He has insulted; the LGBTQ community, the Hispanic Americans, Native Americans, blacks, Jews, veterans, disabled, and women.

...also our top generals, our military, the last three Presidents of the US, intelligence community and America itself whom he insists isn't great.

he has insulted everyone in the military from the generals being rubble to the enlisted men being thieves

and yet they still support him over Clinton.

[Minivanistan]

I was just happy to hear something from Hillary Clinton that didn't sound like it had been run by twenty different focus groups for approval before it hit the teleprompter. She also wasn't entirely wrong.

She wasn't. And if Trump supporters' delicate feelings can't handle a bit of political incorrectness, then maybe they should reconsider voting for the embodiment of political incorrectness and the insulter of countless hard working Americans.

Oh no.
You cant shake those alt-right parasites.
They are dug in like Alabama ticks.
If they get too miffed, they will just stick in the earbuds and watch Aleksandr Dugin on YouTube till they feel better.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

And belongs in the General Election thread to begin with.

So that makes it spam.

That's obviously for the moderators to decide, but I think so. Let's check with them and see.

[La Cosa Fedora]

If only this could work, and for every state. Then we could have a race between the grownups, Clinton and Johnson.

[Grinning Dragon]

And belongs in the General Election thread to begin with.

So that makes it spam.

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As someone who was bred born and raised in that god awful State, the dfl is understood as, and referred to as the democratic party by pretty much 99% of Minnesotan's.

edit to add: growing up I had never heard of anybody say dfl, except on the radio or tv.

Interesting. I guess because we don't have that here, I thought it was different than the DNC.

No matter though it's not going to change anything as it's just like a state level party suing instead of the DNC

As far as I know and remember Minnesota is the only State that has a dfl. Or as what most people referred to it as "Damn Filthy Liars" party.
And I agree nothing is going to happen, the ballots have already been printed. Early voting starts on Sept23 in MN, I don't think there would be enough time anyways to appease the dfl.

[AiliailiA]

The only other democratic affiliate in state is The North Dakota Democratic-Nonpartisan League Party.

Nah, there are lots of state branches that are only affiliates.
The MN and ND branches are the two with a different name.