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Who Do You Support in the 2016 Election?

Hillary Rodham Clinton (Democrat)
376
37%
Donald J. Trump (Republican)
277
27%
Gary Johnson (Libertarian)
159
16%
Jill Stein (Green)
104
10%
Undecided
40
4%
Other
57
6%
 
Total votes : 1013

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:19 am

Jumhuriyah Hindustan wrote:

Does that medical history include a record of his tiny, tiny hands? :roll:

Not a medical condition, no matter how many times the size of those Trumpian appendages is discussed.


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Postby Shonburg » Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:28 am

Jumhuriyah Hindustan wrote:

Does that medical history include a record of his tiny, tiny hands? :roll:

Well apparently the paper in the Canadian city of London measured his hands on his madame toussad's wax sculpture and he has smaller than average hands for his height
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Postby Gauthier » Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:30 am

Trump Continues Criticizing Clinton for ‘Basket of Deplorables’

On Monday, Trump said her comment was "actually much worse" than the video of 2012 GOP nominee Mitt Romney seemingly dismissing 47 percent of Americans who would be unreachable to Republicans because they are "dependent upon government."


First declaring Clinton more untrustworthy than Nixon, then saying her comment is worse than Romney's 47% Speech. Reagan would be spinning in his grave at Trump shitting on other Republicans.

The Trump campaign also launched a new ad hitting Clinton's remarks.

"You know what's deplorable?" the ad asks. "Hillary Clinton viciously demonizing hardworking people like you."


Wow, two balls from the Trump campaign. Hypocritically whining about Hillary Clinton demonizing them after rallying voters by demonizing Mexicans and Muslims among many groups, and then acting like they give a shit about hard-working Americans when Trump is known for stiffing hard-working Americans, including business owners who had to file for bankruptcy thanks to Trump's cheatings.

Clinton on Saturday apologized for making "grossly generalistic" comments about Trump's supporters, saying in a statement that she regretted defining "half" of Trump's support as deplorable.


Whatever her reasons my feeling is she should have doubled down on Basket of Deplorables, calling out Trump and his alt-right fanboys for hypocritically whining against political correctness and SJWs then complaining that her Basket of Deplorables comment triggered them.
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Postby European Guilds » Mon Sep 12, 2016 9:54 am

Gauthier wrote:Trump Continues Criticizing Clinton for ‘Basket of Deplorables’

On Monday, Trump said her comment was "actually much worse" than the video of 2012 GOP nominee Mitt Romney seemingly dismissing 47 percent of Americans who would be unreachable to Republicans because they are "dependent upon government."


First declaring Clinton more untrustworthy than Nixon, then saying her comment is worse than Romney's 47% Speech. Reagan would be spinning in his grave at Trump shitting on other Republicans.

The Trump campaign also launched a new ad hitting Clinton's remarks.

"You know what's deplorable?" the ad asks. "Hillary Clinton viciously demonizing hardworking people like you."


Wow, two balls from the Trump campaign. Hypocritically whining about Hillary Clinton demonizing them after rallying voters by demonizing Mexicans and Muslims among many groups, and then acting like they give a shit about hard-working Americans when Trump is known for stiffing hard-working Americans, including business owners who had to file for bankruptcy thanks to Trump's cheatings.

Clinton on Saturday apologized for making "grossly generalistic" comments about Trump's supporters, saying in a statement that she regretted defining "half" of Trump's support as deplorable.


Whatever her reasons my feeling is she should have doubled down on Basket of Deplorables, calling out Trump and his alt-right fanboys for hypocritically whining against political correctness and SJWs then complaining that her Basket of Deplorables comment triggered them.

I want someone to make an attack ad in which Trump supporters complain about Hillary insulting them, interjected with lots of clips of Trump and his supporters saying awful things. Bonus points if the ad is narrated by a man who's slowly dressing as a KKK member.

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Postby Communist Xomaniax » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:09 am

Saiwania wrote:Clinton's pneumonia has supposedly been confirmed. A ton of medical conditions, you can ignore- but not this one. It does put people in the hospital. It may take at least 5 days of treatment. She won't be back to feeling 100% until almost a month later.

Pneumonia isn't the plague dude, she'll probably be fine come debate time.
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Postby Konarus » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:30 am

The problem.

Hillary also has confirmed Parkinsons. :)
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Postby Khadgar » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:32 am

Konarus wrote:The problem.

Hillary also has confirmed Parkinsons. :)


I assume the youtube link is her personal doctor asserting that.

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Postby Hurdergaryp » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:33 am

Khadgar wrote:
Konarus wrote:The problem.

Hillary also has confirmed Parkinsons. :)

I assume the youtube link is her personal doctor asserting that.

An amazingly young doctor, then.


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Postby European Guilds » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:35 am

Konarus wrote:The problem.

Hillary also has confirmed Parkinsons. :)

Source?

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Postby Quokkastan » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:35 am

European Guilds wrote:
Konarus wrote:The problem.

Hillary also has confirmed Parkinsons. :)

Source?

Someone on Youtube said it. It must be true.
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Postby Philjia » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:40 am

Konarus wrote:The problem.

Hillary also has confirmed Parkinsons. :)


FDR had suffered from polio, was confined to a wheelchair, and was a chain smoker.
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Postby Khadgar » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:41 am

Philjia wrote:
Konarus wrote:The problem.

Hillary also has confirmed Parkinsons. :)


FDR had suffered from polio, was confined to a wheelchair, and was a chain smoker.


Kennedy was given last rites three times before he was inaugurated.

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Postby European Guilds » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:42 am

Philjia wrote:
Konarus wrote:The problem.

Hillary also has confirmed Parkinsons. :)


FDR had suffered from polio, was confined to a wheelchair, and was a chain smoker.

Luckily there weren't any major crises during his presidency that tested his health.

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Postby New Chalcedon » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:45 am

I just thought of one way the Clinton campaign could make the "Clinton health scare" into a positive. Imagine this ad:

<Picture of Twin Towers, soft piano background>

Male Voiceover: She was there for us. After the attacks, when our first responders needed help, she was there for us.
Female Voiceover: She was there for us. For nearly a decade, until 9/11 first responders got the healthcare we needed, she was there for us.

<image morphs into the 9/11 memorial>

Male Voiceover: And she was there for us again, this year, taking the time during her campaign for the White House, to make sure we weren't forgotten. Not even pneumonia could keep her away, because she's always looked out for us.
Female Voiceover: We wanted to say this - Hillary Clinton, we will be there for you in November, as you have been there for us.

<Image fades into Clinton campaign logo as music fades>
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Postby New West Guiana » Mon Sep 12, 2016 10:50 am

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Postby Philjia » Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:05 am



Give yourself a good scare. Look at a picture of him from 2008.
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Postby Jerzylvania » Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:07 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Khadgar wrote:I assume the youtube link is her personal doctor asserting that.

An amazingly young doctor, then.


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Postby Hurdergaryp » Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:16 am

Jerzylvania wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:An amazingly young doctor, then.

Doogie Howser MD

He sure got angry, but that's puberty for you.


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Postby Hurdergaryp » Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:17 am

Philjia wrote:

Give yourself a good scare. Look at a picture of him from 2008.

The presidency does tend to do a real number on you when you're the person who's actually the president.


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Postby Mad hatters in jeans » Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:18 am


Likely down to the current election looking pretty grim and people looking back and realising maybe he wasn't so bad.

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Postby Ifreann » Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:18 am

Mad hatters in jeans wrote:

Likely down to the current election looking pretty grim and people looking back and realising maybe he wasn't so bad.

"How quickly could we amend the constitution and re-elect Obama?"
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:21 am

Ifreann wrote:
Mad hatters in jeans wrote:Likely down to the current election looking pretty grim and people looking back and realising maybe he wasn't so bad.

"How quickly could we amend the constitution and re-elect Obama?

I am pretty sure that Obama wouldn't even want to do a third term, now that he's doing quite a few impressive things at the end of his second term in order to leave a legacy.


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Postby Jerzylvania » Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:23 am

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Jerzylvania wrote:Doogie Howser MD

He sure got angry, but that's puberty for you.


Doog has unfettered access to the hospital pharm too. :o

538 says Trumps momentum has stalled.

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Postby Yorkers » Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:53 am

Gauthier wrote:Trump Continues Criticizing Clinton for ‘Basket of Deplorables’

On Monday, Trump said her comment was "actually much worse" than the video of 2012 GOP nominee Mitt Romney seemingly dismissing 47 percent of Americans who would be unreachable to Republicans because they are "dependent upon government."


First declaring Clinton more untrustworthy than Nixon, then saying her comment is worse than Romney's 47% Speech. Reagan would be spinning in his grave at Trump shitting on other Republicans.

The Trump campaign also launched a new ad hitting Clinton's remarks.

"You know what's deplorable?" the ad asks. "Hillary Clinton viciously demonizing hardworking people like you."


Wow, two balls from the Trump campaign. Hypocritically whining about Hillary Clinton demonizing them after rallying voters by demonizing Mexicans and Muslims among many groups, and then acting like they give a shit about hard-working Americans when Trump is known for stiffing hard-working Americans, including business owners who had to file for bankruptcy thanks to Trump's cheatings.

Clinton on Saturday apologized for making "grossly generalistic" comments about Trump's supporters, saying in a statement that she regretted defining "half" of Trump's support as deplorable.


Whatever her reasons my feeling is she should have doubled down on Basket of Deplorables, calling out Trump and his alt-right fanboys for hypocritically whining against political correctness and SJWs then complaining that her Basket of Deplorables comment triggered them.


Trump got Hillary Clinton to apologize?

Oh god, I can't wait for the slaughter on the 26th. :lol:
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Postby Yorkers » Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:54 am

New Chalcedon wrote:I just thought of one way the Clinton campaign could make the "Clinton health scare" into a positive. Imagine this ad:

<Picture of Twin Towers, soft piano background>

Male Voiceover: She was there for us. After the attacks, when our first responders needed help, she was there for us.
Female Voiceover: She was there for us. For nearly a decade, until 9/11 first responders got the healthcare we needed, she was there for us.

<image morphs into the 9/11 memorial>

Male Voiceover: And she was there for us again, this year, taking the time during her campaign for the White House, to make sure we weren't forgotten. Not even pneumonia could keep her away, because she's always looked out for us.
Female Voiceover: We wanted to say this - Hillary Clinton, we will be there for you in November, as you have been there for us.

<Image fades into Clinton campaign logo as music fades>


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