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Should drug use be a criminal offense?

Postby Kergstan » Mon Aug 01, 2016 1:51 pm

I think cannabis should be totally legal for everyone from 18 years of age.
As for other drugs i think use and possess of drug up to 5-15 grams depending on the drug should be legal because is know that the countries with liberal policies are the countries were drug abuse is low and also crime related issues.
I think the state should give this people like in Switzerland, places were they can use it in hygienic placed with medical/psychological assistence and then help them to stop the abuse of drugs with progressive and functional policies as the use of methadone for who uses heroin etc..
This also lowers the number of imprisoned helping so to curb prisons overpopulation, giving people a second chance and to lower spending.

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Postby Community Values » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:18 pm

All drugs should be legal, banning drugs pushes them into the black market, something much more dangerous than the drug itself.
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Postby The Princes of the Universe » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:20 pm

Not every dumb decision warrants a prison sentence.
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Postby Internationalist Bastard » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:20 pm

Drug use? No. These people are already suffering. The least we can do is make them willing to openly walk out and try to go to rehab. By constantly pushing it as a crime, nobody wants to admit that they have a problem
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Postby Godular » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:22 pm

Legalize, regulate, tax the shit out of.
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Postby Ifreann » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:22 pm

Why should it be? Using drugs doesn't hurt anyone.
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Postby Shofercia » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:22 pm

Kergstan wrote:I think cannabis should be totally legal for everyone from 18 years of age.
As for other drugs i think use and possess of drug up to 5-15 grams depending on the drug should be legal because is know that the countries with liberal policies are the countries were drug abuse is low and also crime related issues.
I think the state should give this people like in Switzerland, places were they can use it in hygienic placed with medical/psychological assistence and then help them to stop the abuse of drugs with progressive and functional policies as the use of methadone for who uses heroin etc..
This also lowers the number of imprisoned helping so to curb prisons overpopulation, giving people a second chance and to lower spending.

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If a drug is safer than cigs/booze - allow it.
If a drug is more dangerous than cigs/booze - don't allow it.
Use objective testing to determine the degree of danger of the drug.
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Postby Isyrannaea » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:22 pm

No.
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Postby Benuty » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:23 pm

No.

Being completely serious for once it honestly should not be a criminal offense.
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Postby Kergstan » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:27 pm

Ughh still waiting for the american traditionalist god-fearing conservative :c

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Postby The Islands of Versilia » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:28 pm

No, I don't believe it should be.

They should be legal, but the world should follow the Swiss Model.
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Postby Uxupox » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:29 pm

Let people do whatever the fuck they want but don't allow them to siphon money out of the state (Or Health in general) if they fuck up by overdosing on their selected choice of poison.
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:29 pm

No. You don't punish people for bad decisions.
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Postby Community Values » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:30 pm

Kergstan wrote:Ughh still waiting for the american traditionalist god-fearing conservative :c


Don't worry, there's always one stalking around the corner somewhere.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:30 pm

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Postby Kergstan » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:31 pm

The Islands of Versilia wrote:No, I don't believe it should be.

They should be legal, but the world should follow the Swiss Model.


Totally agree

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Postby Community Values » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:32 pm

The Islands of Versilia wrote:No, I don't believe it should be.

They should be legal, but the world should follow the Swiss Model.


Let it be controlled by the free-market. I know many people that would hate to be paying for someone else's clean needles.
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Postby Kergstan » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:34 pm

Community Values wrote:
The Islands of Versilia wrote:No, I don't believe it should be.

They should be legal, but the world should follow the Swiss Model.


Let it be controlled by the free-market. I know many people that would hate to be paying for someone else's clean needles.


Well if the state sells it, that doesn't mean that it will give it for free except if it is for medical needs

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Postby Western-Ukraine » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:36 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:But muh morals!

That's a bad excuse. One could still abstain from using drugs themselves, without bothering others with restrictions.

And I'm not talking about you now...
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Postby Community Values » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:36 pm

Kergstan wrote:
Community Values wrote:
Let it be controlled by the free-market. I know many people that would hate to be paying for someone else's clean needles.


Well if the state sells it, that doesn't mean that it will give it for free except if it is for medical needs


The state shouldn't sell it.
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Postby Benuty » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:37 pm

Uxupox wrote:Let people do whatever the fuck they want but don't allow them to siphon money out of the state (Or Health in general) if they fuck up by overdosing on their selected choice of poison.

The problem here being if someone calls 911, and an ambulance picks up someone overdosed them most likely they will siphon money out of the health system. It is rather unavoidable with people being concerned or knowing said overdoser.
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Postby Liriena » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:38 pm

Drug use in and of itself? No, it should not be a criminal offense. Stigmatizing drug users to the point of effectively ruining their lives with the added stigma of imprisonment is irresponsible and despicable.
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Postby Rutthenia » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:38 pm

No, it should be legal and heavily regulated by the government.
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Postby Western-Ukraine » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:38 pm

Benuty wrote:
Uxupox wrote:Let people do whatever the fuck they want but don't allow them to siphon money out of the state (Or Health in general) if they fuck up by overdosing on their selected choice of poison.

The problem here being if someone calls 911, and an ambulance picks up someone overdosed them most likely they will siphon money out of the health system. It is rather unavoidable with people being concerned or knowing said overdoser.

That is only a problem in socialist countries. Why would they be able to siphon money in any other case?
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Postby Great Feng » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:38 pm

Nah.
I dislike drugs use a lot but I say just rehab.
And conscript the drugs forcefully from people caught doing illegal drugs and sell it to other countries for profit.

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