Donald Trump invites Russia to hack Hillary Clinton

[Unified Governments]

Then it isn't treason. And I'll stay on my high horse all I wish. It's rather comfy.

Then you're not worth the effort.

Okie-dokie.

[Vassenor]

I'm saying Trump wants them to.

Which isn't a crime.

Calling on a foreign power to influence the election isn't a crime?

[Unified Governments]

Bring me evidence that the Russians are actually trying to rig this election. Until then, they can expose the Democrat's ditty laundry all they want.

Translation: "I need a cartoon villain confession otherwise I'll ignore it."

Translation: "I have no evidence so I'll just shitpost instead."

[Ralkovian Grand Island]

Could you imagine going back in time 30 years and telling a Republican that in the future the Republican candidate is inviting Russia to hack the Democratic candidate and the Republicans are giddy?

I think the strongest response would be related to something like this;

"Waitaminute.
The Russians are accessing sensitive data from US networks and archives with impunity, and all you are doing is having a petty media roast of a candidates sarcastic remarks?
Has the United States somehow devolved to just a suggestion of a polity?
Geez, next thing you will tell me is that policy makers in your time are doubling down on Reagan's mistake of an amnesty."

Actually, I think it's way funnier that the Democrats have now embraced McCarthyism.

[Unified Governments]

Which isn't a crime.

Calling on a foreign power to influence the election isn't a crime?

If I say "I want Russia to release the rest of the DNC emails" is that a crime?

[Gauthier]

I think the strongest response would be related to something like this;

"Waitaminute.
The Russians are accessing sensitive data from US networks and archives with impunity, and all you are doing is having a petty media roast of a candidates sarcastic remarks?
Has the United States somehow devolved to just a suggestion of a polity?
Geez, next thing you will tell me is that policy makers in your time are doubling down on Reagan's mistake of an amnesty."

Actually, I think it's way funnier that the Democrats have now embraced McCarthyism.

Because it's the Soviet Union under Putin obviously.

[Ralkovian Grand Island]

Actually, I think it's way funnier that the Democrats have now embraced McCarthyism.

Because it's the Soviet Union under Putin obviously.

Better Hillary than Red, they say.

[Individual Concerns]

Actually, I think it's way funnier that the Democrats have now embraced McCarthyism.

That is not new.
They have always treated their opposition in a McCarthyish manner which is similar to the alcohol fueled displeasure expressed by abusive husbands.

By the way, I love Marines, but an alcoholic one makes for the worst spokesman possible.
Just saying.

[Gauthier]

Because it's the Soviet Union under Putin obviously.

Better Hillary than Red, they say.

Guess the GOP better pick another color then.

[Unified Governments]

How could one know about the countless Clinton scandals ranging from Bill's term to her tenure as Secretary of State and still be a Clinton Supporter?

Her flaws are minor considering the horror show that is Trump, and her policies are reasonably progressive and forward-looking. There's also the nice benefit of them being based in reality.

I don't think putting US national security at risk is a "minor" flaw.

[Organized States]

Personally, I'm not too concerned about Trump being an asshole, but he seriously needs to start vetting who he has on his campaign. His campaign chairman has accepted a shitton of money from Pakistani Intelligence in the 90s. If that doesn't prove you have people who can be turned to act as a spy or Agent of Influence, I don't know what does.

[Gauthier]

Her flaws are minor considering the horror show that is Trump, and her policies are reasonably progressive and forward-looking. There's also the nice benefit of them being based in reality.

I don't think putting US national security at risk is a "minor" flaw.

And someone who begged the Russians to hack the country's internet as well as expressing eagerness to dismantle NATO isn't a liability?

[Community Values]

I wouldn't mind, but it seems that Trump doesn't know what the word "deleted" means. If the FBI can't find it in an investigation, I highly doubt Russians can find it in a hacking attempt.

[Gauthier]

I wouldn't mind, but it seems that Trump doesn't know what the word "deleted" means. If the FBI can't find it in an investigation, I highly doubt Russians can find it in a hacking attempt.

It would require physical possession of the server drive to be even able to attempt salvaging deleted files.

[The Two Jerseys]

Nothing like blowing a joke waaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of proportion.

[Valrifell]

Nothing like blowing a joke waaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of proportion.

There are some things you don't joke about on national television.

[Gauthier]

Nothing like blowing a joke waaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of proportion.

Anytime a Republican gets called out on saying something patently offensive it retroactively becomes Just A Joke.

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

Donald Trump may be the first person in 200 years to actually violate the Logan Act.

Please FBI please investigate him and please DoJ please charge him. I wanna see this go down in court.

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

I'm saying Trump wants them to.

Which isn't a crime.

Trump asking them to constitutes a violation of the Logan Act, forbidding negotiation with a foreign power which the United States has a contentious relationship with. The US relationship with Russia is literally the definition of contentious, and asking a foreign power to hack your political opponent's emails is literally the definition of negotiating. So, actually, Donald Trump committed a crime. A felony in fact.

[Cedoria]

Let them do that screw that war criminal called clinton.

You do realise he's calling on a foreign power to manipulate the results of an election in a democratic country? It's practically treason, but then again, nothing really surprises me with Trump anymore, nor his supporter, who will defend his effectively treasonable action after attacking wildly all and sundry on the other side for treasonous actions they actually didn't do.


The worst kind of hypocrisy is the unconscious sort.

[Cedoria]

Which isn't a crime.

Trump asking them to constitutes a violation of the Logan Act, forbidding negotiation with a foreign power which the United States has a contentious relationship with. The US relationship with Russia is literally the definition of contentious, and asking a foreign power to hack your political opponent's emails is literally the definition of negotiating. So, actually, Donald Trump committed a crime. A felony in fact.

Yes, and it forbids private diplomacy by anyone who is not elected as a member of the US government, or appointed by elected members of the government to conduct such diplomacy. Since Trump is neither, his action is criminal, this is a clear violation of American domestic law, and the worst part? Candidate Trump appears to either not know, or not care that he has done so.

And this is the man our American comrades are thinking of handing the highest office in the land? Don't, just don't, for your own good.

(PS: This entreaty comes from a loather and despiser of Clinton, if I'm saying it, take note)

[Cedoria]

Donald Trump may be the first person in 200 years to actually violate the Logan Act.

Please FBI please investigate him and please DoJ please charge him. I wanna see this go down in court.

Actually no, he's the first since Richard Nixon illegally undercut the US negotiating team in Paris Peace talks to win the 1968 elections, using Henry Kissinger to feed him information, and Anna Chenault (the so-called 'Dragon Lady') to establish an illegal backchannel to tell the South Vietnamese to abandon the negotiations just before the elections, thus ruining the main plank of the Democrats election platform.

Hence why Kissinger was immedietely given a job in the Nixon Administration, even though he was a man who liked neither intellectuals nor Jews.

[Cedoria]

Her flaws are minor considering the horror show that is Trump, and her policies are reasonably progressive and forward-looking. There's also the nice benefit of them being based in reality.

I don't think putting US national security at risk is a "minor" flaw.

So presuably you don't support Trump asking a foreign dictatorship to hack the servers of a democratic country (of which he himself is running as leader for. What greater definition of recklessly risking national security do you need? Even the worst possibility of Clinton's misuse of email is nowhere near as bad as that.

[Individual Concerns]

Which isn't a crime.

Calling on a foreign power to influence the election isn't a crime?

Caustically remarking on what a foreign power is most likely in the midst of doing already is indeed not a crime.

Nothing like blowing a joke waaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of proportion.

There are some things you don't joke about on national television.

Correction.
There is an extensive list of prohibited subject matter considered inappropriate for Republicans to comment on up to and including all oppositional opinion of Democrat policy and comportment. Which is thoroughly policed by the AP, because the First Amendment only applies to the "good" guys.

Trump asking them to constitutes a violation of the Logan Act, forbidding negotiation with a foreign power which the United States has a contentious relationship with. The US relationship with Russia is literally the definition of contentious, and asking a foreign power to hack your political opponent's emails is literally the definition of negotiating. So, actually, Donald Trump committed a crime. A felony in fact.

If only we could generally apply such strict interpretation of statute to Democrats accused of malfeasance.

[Renewed Imperial Germany]

Trump asking them to constitutes a violation of the Logan Act, forbidding negotiation with a foreign power which the United States has a contentious relationship with. The US relationship with Russia is literally the definition of contentious, and asking a foreign power to hack your political opponent's emails is literally the definition of negotiating. So, actually, Donald Trump committed a crime. A felony in fact.

If only we could generally apply such strict interpretation of statute to Democrats accused of malfeasance.

I don't recall the last time a Democrat literally said "Yo Russia! Please please pretty please hack my opponents emails so she loses the election, mmmkay?"