Donald Trump invites Russia to hack Hillary Clinton

[Saiwania]

Realistically speaking, I think Trump is a one term president at best- unless the Democrats completely blow it and don't find a strong candidate like Obama. A two term Trump presidency, I see as contingent on the first term actually being good.

[Spiffier]

Regardless of what the intent was or the reaction to it, it was some of the dumbest shit I've seen in a long time. If the presidential race is a job interview, Trump just casually mentioned if an item was valuable enough he might have a buddy steal it. I could give a shit if he was kidding or not, it doesn't sit well with me either way.

To be fair, he never said they should steal it, just that if they have it, they should release it. It's impossible for anyone to steal those emails now, they server is gone; even a Congressional Hearing couldn't get them.

The major issue was Trump's attitude of praise.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

It boggles the mind that HIlary isn't in jail.

From what I understand, the FBI basically told everyone that she was too incompetent to know better about the whole email scandal.

Her election is totally tanked at this point, and now we all just have to make our peace with Trump riding the wave straight into the Oval Office.

But, even if that was a fact, Garry johnson.

Also,nu. It hasn't tanked.

[Liriena]

Just remember, he can only do so much damage in four years.

Then again, we re-elected Bush, so just plan for the long haul.

We will better after 8 years of Trump than after 8 of Obama.

In what data do you base that prediction? Certainly not his policy proposals, since they make no economic sense, and have been panned by foreign policy experts as well.

[Occupied Deutschland]

We will better after 8 years of Trump than after 8 of Obama.

In what data do you base that prediction? Certainly not his policy proposals, since they make no economic sense, and have been panned by foreign policy experts as well.

What policy proposals? To wit, the extent of his policy is 'Mexico Wall - they pay', 'NATO alliance - they pay more', and 'trade deals - we pay less/they pay more'.
He hasn't even given specifics or talked about anything particular about those, and they're about the only things he's running on from a policy perspective...Which is probably because most of his natural policy inclination comes from the Clinton-era Democrat platform he was a big proponent of before the Republican nomination turned into a sixteen-person shitfit he could jump into.

[Spiffier]

We will better after 8 years of Trump than after 8 of Obama.

In what data do you base that prediction? Certainly not his policy proposals, since they make no economic sense, and have been panned by foreign policy experts as well.

I think it makes economic sense to start exporting more relative to how much we import, exports are a major job source.

[Trollgaard]

We will better after 8 years of Trump than after 8 of Obama.

In what data do you base that prediction? Certainly not his policy proposals, since they make no economic sense, and have been panned by foreign policy experts as well.

America. First.

Short term pain, long term gain.

[The Black Forrest]

It boggles the mind that HIlary isn't in jail.

From what I understand, the FBI basically told everyone that she was too incompetent to know better about the whole email scandal.

Waste of effort. I can show you many aerodefense executives who fit that description. A buddy who worked capitol hill can point out many elected officials who fit that description.

Her election is totally tanked at this point, and now we all just have to make our peace with Trump riding the wave straight into the Oval Office.

No. You forget the RNC just ended. His numbers will decline.

[The Black Forrest]

In what data do you base that prediction? Certainly not his policy proposals, since they make no economic sense, and have been panned by foreign policy experts as well.

America. First.

Short term pain, long term gain.

Jingoism. Not a solution.

[Trollgaard]

America. First.

Short term pain, long term gain.

Jingoism. Not a solution.

A good start to one.

[Herador]

Regardless of what the intent was or the reaction to it, it was some of the dumbest shit I've seen in a long time. If the presidential race is a job interview, Trump just casually mentioned if an item was valuable enough he might have a buddy steal it. I could give a shit if he was kidding or not, it doesn't sit well with me either way.

To be fair, he never said they should steal it, just that if they have it, they should release it. It's impossible for anyone to steal those emails now, they server is gone; even a Congressional Hearing couldn't get them.

The major issue was Trump's attitude of praise.

Fair point. I'm trash a metaphors and that one really got away from me.

[United States Kingdom]

This is the last straw for me. I was going to vote for Trump - not because I harbor any particular liking for the man or his policies, but because at least he's not Hillary. But this is different — now he, technically speaking, has actively encouraged foreign actors to commit crimes in our country. To me, that's borderline treasonous (figuratively, not legally). And, given Trump's remarks regarding our NATO obligations under Article 5, it doesn't surprise me that Russia would want a Trump presidency, I now feel that a vote for Trump is effectively a vote in favor of Russian interests and Russian domination of Eastern Europe.

I feel sorry for all of the actual republicans who got their party hijacked.

You mean by going through a democratic process? That certainly sounds like hijacking.

[Spiffier]

I feel sorry for all of the actual republicans who got their party hijacked.

You mean by going through a democratic process? That certainly sounds like hijacking.

It is for Republicans.

[Sack Jackpot Winners]

That's not what happened. As the article said

If Russia or any other country or person has Hillary Clinton's 33,000 illegally deleted emails, perhaps they should share them with the FBI!

This implies it's already in their possession. That's more than saying "GUYZ HACK CLINTON MWAHAHAH".

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

That's not what happened. As the article said

If Russia or any other country or person has Hillary Clinton's 33,000 illegally deleted emails, perhaps they should share them with the FBI!

This implies it's already in their possession. That's more than saying "GUYZ HACK CLINTON MWAHAHAH".

I heard the dude on TV.

He said began the thought "Russia if you are listening..."

[Gauthier]

Endless pictures of Bill's junk.

You know, that'd actually be... kinda cute.
I mean, I don't want to see his junk, but it'd be kinda cute to see that the two Clintons still have a healthy, kinky sex life together, with dick pics and all.

Anthony Weiner would be envious.

[Shonburg]

Hillary has not even been elected yet; so I fail to see how this is a good excuse.

Why are you bending over backwards to defend this?

I'm not bending over backwards. I've elaborated on these principles on this forum before numerous times.
It's an odd situation in that Hillary isn't yet the government, but if you view it as two sides, it's clear that one is democratic and one is undemocratic and corrupt. Both are trying to take over the government.
The democratic side is therefore justified in my opinion in doing whatever it takes to ensure the other side doesn't win.

Democratic side? Very funny, so democratic that when my state's delegates voted for Cruz, they punished them by moving their section into the corner of the hall.

[Liriena]

In what data do you base that prediction? Certainly not his policy proposals, since they make no economic sense, and have been panned by foreign policy experts as well.

America. First.

Short term pain, long term gain.

Now that's a stupid answer.

[Liriena]

Jingoism. Not a solution.

A good start to one.

Said every self-centered authoritarian leader ever.

[Trollgaard]

America. First.

Short term pain, long term gain.

Now that's a stupid answer.

[Liriena]

That's not what happened. As the article said

If Russia or any other country or person has Hillary Clinton's 33,000 illegally deleted emails, perhaps they should share them with the FBI!

This implies it's already in their possession. That's more than saying "GUYZ HACK CLINTON MWAHAHAH".

Ah, nice cherry pick.

Here's another cherry pick.
http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/27/trump-hope-russia-finds-the-30000-emails-that-are-missing.html

Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing, I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.

[United States Kingdom]

You mean by going through a democratic process? That certainly sounds like hijacking.

It is for Republicans.

Not for the millions that voted for him. I don't like Trump, but it wasn't a 'hijacked' process.

[Spiffier]

A good start to one.

Said every self-centered authoritarian leader ever.

What about Franco? Or Pinochet?

[Liriena]

Said every self-centered authoritarian leader ever.

What about Franco? Or Pinochet?

Nationalist military dictators who got into power thanks, in part, to widespread fears of international leftist ideologies.
Plus, with some help from foreign countries with nationalist jingoistic leaders of their own.

[Spiffier]

What about Franco? Or Pinochet?

Nationalist military dictators who got into power thanks, in part, to widespread fears of international leftist ideologies.
Plus, with some help from foreign countries with nationalist jingoistic leaders of their own.

But they weren't really jingoists themselves.