Donald Trump invites Russia to hack Hillary Clinton

[Neutraligon]

By the way, if calling on Russia to do this constitutes an "attack" on the US, what was Obama doing when he wiretapped half the worlds leaders and diplomats? Declaring WW3?

It's just another example of leftist hypocrisy and double standards.

I think you'll find a lot of the left criticises the NSA more harshly than the right does. Not that I'd know, I'm not a leftist.

So what you're saying is that Hillary isn't a problem because other people are bad, too?

Isn't that what you're doing by trying to deflect away from the fact that Trump is calling for one of the West's enemies to breach our security?

Rhetorical question.

That and as far as we know the hacks were not used to affect the elections of those countries. That is a key difference. Another key difference is that the hacks were not done at the request, or with the approval of another person running for a major office.

[Ifreann]

Endless pictures of Bill's junk.

You know, that'd actually be... kinda cute.
I mean, I don't want to see his junk, but it'd be kinda cute to see that the two Clintons still have a healthy, kinky sex life together, with dick pics and all.

They say saxophonists are great with their tongues.

[Saiwania]

And if there is any justice, the Republican Party is finished. They selected a nominee who is colluding with a foreign despot to sell out America and its allies.

The GOP didn't want Donald Trump to begin with, he beat 16 other candidates in the primaries fair and square, and when it came time for the party convention, the Never Trump camp didn't have any candidate to challenge Trump with. In addition to failing to achieve a rules change that would deny him the nomination, their opposition evidently not being strong enough.

Like it or not, the Donald has made it as far as he has. He is in 2016's race for good.

[Liriena]

So best case scenario, he just asked a foreign state to commit a crime (which to my laypersons eye kind of looks like conspiracy? Maybe?), and at worst he might have just committed Treason Light.

...why?

'cause he needs to steal the spotlight from crooked Hillary's convention. Otherwise, people may start to notice that his convention was a total ****show by comparison, and there'll go his convention bounce.

Also, he's an ignorant, irresponsible blabbermouth.

[Salus Maior]

I despise Trump and any kind of presidency of his would probably one of the darkest or at the very least the most unhelpful in our history.

That being said, I don't mind this so much Clinton's a total fake and a scumbag. She deserves to have her dirty laundry aired out.

[Valrifell]

I despise Trump and any kind of presidency of his would probably one of the darkest or at the very least the most unhelpful in our history.

That being said, I don't mind this so much Clinton's a total fake and a scumbag. She deserves to have her dirty laundry aired out.

By a foreign government tho? One that definitely doesn't like the US? It's one thing for an American whistleblower to do it, another thing entirely for a foreign power to do so.

[Cymrea]

And if there is any justice, the Republican Party is finished. They selected a nominee who is colluding with a foreign despot to sell out America and its allies.

The GOP didn't want Donald Trump to begin with, he beat 16 other candidates in the primaries fair and square...

All the while loudly declaring that the primary was rigged. Since he won, was it rigged in his favour...or not rigged at all and he's just a shit-talker?

...and when it came time for the party convention, the Never Trump camp didn't have any candidate to challenge Trump with and failed to achieve a rules change that would deny him the nomination. Like it or not, the Donald has made it as far as he has. He is in 2016's race for good.

Which speaks eloquently to the dysfunction of the GOP and conservative voters.

[Salus Maior]

I despise Trump and any kind of presidency of his would probably one of the darkest or at the very least the most unhelpful in our history.

That being said, I don't mind this so much Clinton's a total fake and a scumbag. She deserves to have her dirty laundry aired out.

By a foreign government tho? One that definitely doesn't like the US? It's one thing for an American whistleblower to do it, another thing entirely for a foreign power to do so.

Eh, true enough.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

So, any news on Donald Trump getting arrested for saying something this stupid and illegal?

[Liriena]

So, any news on Donald Trump getting arrested for saying something this stupid and illegal?

What is that anti-Clinton meme that some Trump supporters like?

Oh, yes...

LAWS ARE FOR PEASANTS!

[Holocaust Never Happened]

Where were the Hillary supporters when she leaked 33,000 emails?

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[Saiwania]

All the while loudly declaring that the primary was rigged. Since he won, was it rigged in his favour...or not rigged at all and he's just a shit-talker?

The Republican primaries were rigged against Donald Trump but he managed to win anyways, in spite of any obstacles put forth to try to stop his rise to front runner status. His primary opponents could be divided and conquered in a crowded field and once it narrowed, his opponents weren't united against Trump until it was too late. Trump could have a string of victories whilst his opponents were fighting each other.

[Trollgaard]

Omg people, learn to understand a joke.

[Liriena]

Omg people, learn to understand a joke.

Please, do tell us more about Donald Trump's comedic talents, about how he was merely pulling a Colbert on all those silly journalists.

[Darjihad]

It's okay for me to mislabel a fallacy if others have.

*sigh* No, it really isn't

Maybe next time I'll make you laugh. Shrugs.

[Conserative Morality]

Please, do tell us more about Donald Trump's comedic talents, about how he was merely pulling a Colbert on all those silly journalists.

He's a deep-cover liberal. Man was just filming his new reality show for the past six years. He's got seasons upon seasons worth of material.

[Mynockia]

Omg people, learn to understand a joke.

Trump sure has been making a lot of those lately. Seems like every time he says something stupid, Ryan or Gingrich comes out and assures us it's all a comedy routine.

Maybe this whole campaign is a sick joke? I hope so.

Meanwhile, people in the national security community (like Hayden) don't think it's funny. Maybe they expect that a candidate for President of the United States carries himself like a professional or at least a decent human being, and not a thin-skinned, loud mouthed, ignorant, eager-to-opine manchild.

[Cymrea]

All the while loudly declaring that the primary was rigged. Since he won, was it rigged in his favour...or not rigged at all and he's just a shit-talker?

The Republican primaries were rigged against Donald Trump but he managed to win anyways, in spite of any obstacles put forth to try to stop his rise to front runner status. His primary opponents could be divided and conquered in a crowded field and once it narrowed, his opponents weren't united against Trump until it was too late. Trump could have a string of victories whilst his opponents were fighting each other.

Rigged in what ways?

[ROM]

These some 30,000 emails are already deleted. What Trump is saying is that Russia likely already have these emails, which is likely the case. These emails are so bad that the FBI could not release them because they were a risk to our security. That being said, Trump should not have asked Russia to release them. If Trump somehow gets convicted of treason, which this is not, then shouldn't Hillary Clinton, who put emails that breach national security so badly that the FBI couldn't release them onto a unsecure server with an extreme likely hood that they'd be hacked by another country be convicted of treason?

[Trollgaard]

Omg people, learn to understand a joke.

Trump sure has been making a lot of those lately. Seems like every time he says something stupid, Ryan or Gingrich comes out and assures us it's all a comedy routine.

Maybe this whole campaign is a sick joke? I hope so.

Meanwhile, people in the national security community (like Hayden) don't think it's funny. Maybe they expect that a candidate for President of the United States carries himself like a professional or at least a decent human being, and not a thin-skinned, loud mouthed, ignorant, eager-to-opine manchild.

Even if he wasn't, its not like Russia and China aren't already trying to constantly hack US servers and whatnot anyway. Clinton got away with committing a crime which would be punishable if anyone else did it, at least if the russians found it they might put it all out in the public.

[Individual Concerns]

Omg people, learn to understand a joke.

No kidding.
It is not like Trump is encouraging Russia to do anything it is not already doing.
And China.
And a variety of cyberjunkies the world over.

Anyway, security was compromised on this end already before DT opened his mouth.
Lookin at you Madame Clinton.

If Mrs. Clinton can skate by actually doing a thing, then DT can skate by making his usual crass remarks about it.

[Darjihad]

The GOP didn't want Donald Trump to begin with, he beat 16 other candidates in the primaries fair and square...

All the while loudly declaring that the primary was rigged. Since he won, was it rigged in his favour...or not rigged at all and he's just a shit-talker?

...and when it came time for the party convention, the Never Trump camp didn't have any candidate to challenge Trump with and failed to achieve a rules change that would deny him the nomination. Like it or not, the Donald has made it as far as he has. He is in 2016's race for good.

Which speaks eloquently to the dysfunction of the GOP and conservative voters.

I don't think it is anyone's fault Donald Trump was afraid to debate Ted Cruz when it came down to the two of them. Let's see if he refuses to debate Hillary Clinton.

[Cymrea]

These some 30,000 emails are already deleted. What Trump is saying is that Russia likely already have these emails, which is likely the case. These emails are so bad that the FBI could not release them because they were a risk to our security. That being said, Trump should not have asked Russia to release them. If Trump somehow gets convicted of treason, which this is not, then shouldn't Hillary Clinton, who put emails that breach national security so badly that the FBI couldn't release them onto a unsecure server with an extreme likely hood that they'd be hacked by another country be convicted of treason?

That's not what Trump was saying. Only after realising (or his campaign realising) just how fucking stupid and arguably unlawful his comments were, did there arise this ridiculous notion of it being a joke.

Say something "edgy", wait to see the response, then decide if you were sincere or "just kidding". Super fucky.

[Kelinfort]

Omg people, learn to understand a joke.

I mean, if it doesn't go over well, just call it a joke.