Donald Trump invites Russia to hack Hillary Clinton

[Cymrea]

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/07/27/the-democrats-just-fell-for-trumps-russian-email-hack-bait-commentary.html
^This is what I was afraid of...

"Most of the news media seems to have fallen for it, too, as the tone of most of the stories covering Trump's comments seem to indicate this could be the serious gaffe everyone was expecting Trump to make in this election," said a major source of news media.

[Mynockia]

I'm fairly certain Trump encouraging and giving expressed permission (even though he has no authority to) to damage our country's integrity could be considered a form of high treason.

The funny thing about this to me is he's said people like Snowden should be killed for exposing government secrets.

Well, unless they benefit the Donald. Then it's okay. America First!

[Vassenor]

Good

Treason is good?

[Darjihad]

Now Harry Reid is telling the CIA to lie to Trump.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_57991 ... 80b5317f6e

So that's what they're going with? Trump is a Russian spy now that he doesn't finance Hillary Clinton?

Damn my ribs hurt.

[Darjihad]

Because tu quoque fallacies make hypocrisy awesome.

Nah, it'd only be a tu quoque fallacy if they were saying that the RNC/Rove's actions validated Hillary's.

It's okay for me to mislabel a fallacy if others have.

[Alvecia]

Nah, it'd only be a tu quoque fallacy if they were saying that the RNC/Rove's actions validated Hillary's.

It's okay for me to mislabel a fallacy if others have.

*sigh* No, it really isn't

[Nuzeruma]

This is just absurd
Trump is cheating, but he is right about Clinton but that's not Russia's problem it's America's problem

[Hirota]

His full comment appeared to suggest that he believed Russia or some other group, state sponsored or not already had the data that was stored on Clinton's server, rather than calling for a hack of a server which is now probably air gapped and collecting dust in an FBI evidence room.
There isn't any evidence to believe that they would already have this data (although I suppose it's likely that her private server would have been easier to hack than the DNC server given the poor state of security I understand existed on her private server). But of course team Clinton and her supporters in the press seems to struggle to combat his rhetoric and get dragged in and look silly themselves.

[Liriena]

His full comment appeared to suggest that he believed Russia or some other group, state sponsored or not already had the data that was stored on Clinton's server, rather than calling for a hack of a server which is now probably air gapped and collecting dust in an FBI evidence room.
There isn't any evidence to believe that they would already have this data (although I suppose it's likely that her private server would have been easier to hack than the DNC server given the poor state of security I understand existed on her private server). But of course team Clinton and her supporters in the press seems to struggle to combat his rhetoric and get dragged in and look silly themselves.

As demonstrated by the fact that even leading GOP figures had to come out and remind us all that Putin is a bad guy, and asking him to aid you against your political opponent is a bad idea.

Oh, wait.

[Vassenor]

His full comment appeared to suggest that he believed Russia or some other group, state sponsored or not already had the data that was stored on Clinton's server, rather than calling for a hack of a server which is now probably air gapped and collecting dust in an FBI evidence room.
There isn't any evidence to believe that they would already have this data (although I suppose it's likely that her private server would have been easier to hack than the DNC server given the poor state of security I understand existed on her private server). But of course team Clinton and her supporters in the press seems to struggle to combat his rhetoric and get dragged in and look silly themselves.

He's still attempting to get a foreign power to manipulate the election in his favour.

[Hirota]

His full comment appeared to suggest that he believed Russia or some other group, state sponsored or not already had the data that was stored on Clinton's server, rather than calling for a hack of a server which is now probably air gapped and collecting dust in an FBI evidence room.
There isn't any evidence to believe that they would already have this data (although I suppose it's likely that her private server would have been easier to hack than the DNC server given the poor state of security I understand existed on her private server). But of course team Clinton and her supporters in the press seems to struggle to combat his rhetoric and get dragged in and look silly themselves.

He's still attempting to get a foreign power to manipulate the election in his favour.

Oh don't get me wrong, I cannot stand the man, and as I said elsewhere they are all a bunch of reprobates - and I include Trump and Clinton. But I'm a big advocate of transparency in politics and I'd love for some dirty linen to get aired out in public. We've seen the Dems are not above dirty tricks, and I think the American people should appreciate exactly how utterly inept and obnoxious both the Dems and gop truly are. I'd rather that didn't mean a foreign power getting involved, but we see with Snowden what happens for internal whistleblowers.

[Liriena]

His full comment appeared to suggest that he believed Russia or some other group, state sponsored or not already had the data that was stored on Clinton's server, rather than calling for a hack of a server which is now probably air gapped and collecting dust in an FBI evidence room.
There isn't any evidence to believe that they would already have this data (although I suppose it's likely that her private server would have been easier to hack than the DNC server given the poor state of security I understand existed on her private server). But of course team Clinton and her supporters in the press seems to struggle to combat his rhetoric and get dragged in and look silly themselves.

He's still attempting to get a foreign power to manipulate the election in his favour.

More specifically, he's attempting to get a foreign power to manipulate the election in his favour by having them find and leak the e-mails of a former Secretary of State. If those e-mails contain potentially damaging classified information, as Trump appears to think, he is effectively hoping that said foreign power finds and leaks information that could imperil the nation's security.

[Liriena]

He's still attempting to get a foreign power to manipulate the election in his favour.

Oh don't get me wrong, I cannot stand the man, and as I said elsewhere they are all a bunch of reprobates - and I include Trump and Clinton. But I'm a big advocate of transparency in politics and I'd love for some dirty linen to get aired out in public. We've seen the Dems are not above dirty tricks, and I think the American people should appreciate exactly how utterly inept and obnoxious both the Dems and gop truly are. I'd rather that didn't mean a foreign power getting involved, but we see with Snowden what happens for internal whistleblowers.

Oh, we can agree that the leaks so far paint a ghastly picture of the least awful of the two major parties.

[Hirota]

His full comment appeared to suggest that he believed Russia or some other group, state sponsored or not already had the data that was stored on Clinton's server, rather than calling for a hack of a server which is now probably air gapped and collecting dust in an FBI evidence room.
There isn't any evidence to believe that they would already have this data (although I suppose it's likely that her private server would have been easier to hack than the DNC server given the poor state of security I understand existed on her private server). But of course team Clinton and her supporters in the press seems to struggle to combat his rhetoric and get dragged in and look silly themselves.

As demonstrated by the fact that even leading GOP figures had to come out and remind us all that Putin is a bad guy, and asking him to aid you against your political opponent is a bad idea.

Oh, wait.

elements of the GOP don't like trump? We never knew that did we.

[Hirota]

Oh don't get me wrong, I cannot stand the man, and as I said elsewhere they are all a bunch of reprobates - and I include Trump and Clinton. But I'm a big advocate of transparency in politics and I'd love for some dirty linen to get aired out in public. We've seen the Dems are not above dirty tricks, and I think the American people should appreciate exactly how utterly inept and obnoxious both the Dems and gop truly are. I'd rather that didn't mean a foreign power getting involved, but we see with Snowden what happens for internal whistleblowers.

Oh, we can agree that the leaks so far paint a ghastly picture of the least awful of the two major parties.

so instead of voting for the best, Americans are voting for the least awful. Talk about damning with faint praise!

[Alvecia]

Oh, we can agree that the leaks so far paint a ghastly picture of the least awful of the two major parties.

so instead of voting for the best, Americans are voting for the least awful. Talk about damning with faint praise!

I once heard it said that voting isn't about choosing who will do the most good but who will do the least harm.

[The Romulan Republic]

I'm voting for Mike Pence in November and not Donald Trump. My calculation is that if Trump can somehow get elected, that he'll quickly get impeached and his VP can fully be in charge. The Republican party comes first for me.

The Republican House impeaching Trump?

For the most part, they seem fine with being his collaborators.

And if there is any justice, the Republican Party is finished. They selected a nominee who is colluding with a foreign despot to sell out America and its allies.

[Geilinor]

Oh, we can agree that the leaks so far paint a ghastly picture of the least awful of the two major parties.

so instead of voting for the best, Americans are voting for the least awful. Talk about damning with faint praise!

That's how Americans have voted since 1800.

[Liriena]

Oh, we can agree that the leaks so far paint a ghastly picture of the least awful of the two major parties.

so instead of voting for the best, Americans are voting for the least awful. Talk about damning with faint praise!

As far as I'm concerned, the Green Party is the best (unless there's a neat American socialist party I haven't heard of), but to say the deck is stacked against them would be quite the understatement. And in the face of the two most likely alternatives, the fact remains that I am far more terrified of a party that is staunchly opposed to abortion and minority rights, including the rights of us LGBT+ people, than I am of a socially liberal centre-right party involved in shady dealings.

[Liriena]

As demonstrated by the fact that even leading GOP figures had to come out and remind us all that Putin is a bad guy, and asking him to aid you against your political opponent is a bad idea.

Oh, wait.

elements of the GOP don't like trump? We never knew that did we.

Elements of the GOP that have endorsed Trump.

Anybody want to bet at which point endorsements will start to get rescinded?

[Trygg]

Oh, we can agree that the leaks so far paint a ghastly picture of the least awful of the two major parties.

so instead of voting for the best, Americans are voting for the least awful. Talk about damning with faint praise!

"The president shall not be the shiniest of two turds"
Sigh. It's beginning to look that way.

[Tyrinth]

I'm actually curious what they'd find if they did so.

[Ifreann]

I'm actually curious what they'd find if they did so.

Endless pictures of Bill's junk.

[Herador]

So best case scenario, he just asked a foreign state to commit a crime (which to my laypersons eye kind of looks like conspiracy? Maybe?), and at worst he might have just committed Treason Light by asking a foreign state to commit espionage on a current US Government official and Presidential Nominee.

...why?

[Liriena]

I'm actually curious what they'd find if they did so.

Endless pictures of Bill's junk.

You know, that'd actually be... kinda cute.
I mean, I don't want to see his junk, but it'd be kinda cute to see that the two Clintons still have a healthy, kinky sex life together, with dick pics and all.