DNC leak

[Novus America]

If Clinton really cared about women why would she take any money from countries like Saudi Arabia, which has some of the worst women's rights in the world?

The only woman she cares about is herself. So wonderful a Saudi shill vs a Russian shill. Neither who actually gives a suit about America or the American people.

[Individual Concerns]

I'm kinda leaning Republican because Mike Pence is very conservative and traditional. I don't like Trump though, he's not even a social conservative in my opinion.

Hillary is too Liberal and pretty corrupt as well as really corporate. I still find her personality more likable than Trump however.

If you are a straight ticket voter, and do decide on the Republicans, please bear in mind that there are people down the list who can and will mitigate any damage a President Trump may do.
His presidency will probably face more opposition and obstructionism than any before him, from both parties simultaneously. Three if you count Libertarians.
The Anti-Trump fearmongers do not realize that there is a vast chasm of distintion between accepting a nomination, and actually backing them in office.

[Washington Resistance Army]

If Clinton really cared about women why would she take any money from countries like Saudi Arabia, which has some of the worst women's rights in the world?

The only woman she cares about is herself. So wonderful a Saudi shill vs a Russian shill. Neither who actually gives a suit about America or the American people.

Yay for being fucked either way.

[Kelinfort]

Wow they hacked the DNC's voice mail system too.

Nothing quite as damaging as the emails but if they are getting email and voice mail this is a highly organized team of hackers.

*first unread message*

"Hey Debbie, it's Hilldog! I wanted to know how close you are to completely destroying Sander's career. That jew boy has been pissing me off for too long! Anyway, I deleted all those emails with classified information about ISIS's impending invasion of the United States...you know how hard that was.

Well, I'm going to help you destroy those progressives and get the party back in line. Tell Al-Baghdadi I said hi!"

[Spiffier]

Clinton supporters, you know the same ones who say that salary shouldn't be based on genitalia, are saying "vote for Clinton cause she's a woman!"

If the number of female presidents of the US was closer to the number of males ones, you might actually have a point. Otherwise it is a false equivalence.

Tooting her horn about it is really undignified. Imagine if Obama, when he was nominated, were saying, "You're making history, I'm going to be the first black President!"

[Individual Concerns]

If Clinton really cared about women why would she take any money from countries like Saudi Arabia, which has some of the worst women's rights in the world?

The only woman she cares about is herself. So wonderful a Saudi shill vs a Russian shill. Neither who actually gives a suit about America or the American people.

Actually, Hillary has been a Russian shill too, if you count selling them uranium.
As a more dedicated globalist, her contributors are more vastly international than what DT could hope for.
The Clinton Foundation is probably the closest thing to Spectre to exist in the real world.

But yeah, Trumps involvement with Gazprom is just one of many actual illustrations of his unfitness beyond buying too much into his rhetoric.

While methodically different, this is in its simplest form a contest between two self-absorbed powermongers who have almost no significant ideological motivation or inspiration, beyond being the boss.

[Kelinfort]

The only woman she cares about is herself. So wonderful a Saudi shill vs a Russian shill. Neither who actually gives a suit about America or the American people.

The Clinton Foundation is probably the closest thing to Spectre to exist in the real world.

What.

[Gauthier]

The Clinton Foundation is probably the closest thing to Spectre to exist in the real world.

What.

Hillary is Blofeld of course. Bill gets to shave Socks for her.

[Vassenor]

So I guess this is the Cliff Notes on the situation.

[Kelinfort]

If Clinton really cared about women why would she take any money from countries like Saudi Arabia, which has some of the worst women's rights in the world?

The only woman she cares about is herself. So wonderful a Saudi shill vs a Russian shill. Neither who actually gives a suit about America or the American people.

Really? A Saudi shill?

Is the Salvation Army in the pocket of Big Generosity?

[Great Feng]

What.

Hillary is Blofeld of course. Bill gets to shave Socks for her.

explain what Spectre is?

[Empire of Narnia]

The only woman she cares about is herself. So wonderful a Saudi shill vs a Russian shill. Neither who actually gives a suit about America or the American people.

Really? A Saudi shill?

Is the Salvation Army in the pocket of Big Generosity?

As a conservative I wish she was a Saudi shill. Just getting donations doesn't mean she's a shill, just that someone with a lot of cash wanted to gain a bit of favor with her.

[Gauthier]

Hillary is Blofeld of course. Bill gets to shave Socks for her.

explain what Spectre is?

SPECTRE

[Llamalandia]

What's most ridiculous about this whole "Russia did this!" shit viewing it from the context of the cold war, which is what they are TRYING to get you to do, makes it absolutely obvious we should be thanking the russian government.

These people are basically saying that whenever the west tried to let Russians know how shit the USSR government was, we were being assholes.

Russia just exposed massive levels of collusion and corruption. This is our glasnost. But we're supposed to be mad at them?
These people are so fucking detached from the public.
The "But Russia!" argument is entirely reliant on xenophobia, and on hoping that merely because they're opposing our government, we should get mad at them.
No, they did the US a favor.

Our MEDIA wasn't going to report this shit, so why shouldn't russia? What's the functional difference between us trying to let Russians know their standards of living were shit in the USSR because their media wouldnt tell them, and Russia doing this for us?

"DEM EVIL RUSKIES! THEY OPPOSE THIS SYSTEM! YOU SHOULD BE MAD!"
Why? It's clearly a shit system.

I see no coherent reasoning behind this, and only two possible explanations.

The establishment figures are so far up their own ass and delusional they genuinely believe this is a good system worth defending.

Or

The establishment figures are just responding to this by trying to whip up xenophobia to distract from their own failings, in a year they were *fucking constantly* whining about how Trump was doing this. But I guess since it's Russians, it's okay.

Opposing Russia's government is not opposing Russians. Take that strawman somewhere else.

Well to be fair isn't Russia a democracy? So presumably if you oppose the govt you at least I. Theory are opposing a significant plurality or majority of Russian voters. Of course how legit Russian democracy actually is, is a bit questionable.

[Individual Concerns]

Really? A Saudi shill?

Is the Salvation Army in the pocket of Big Generosity?

As a conservative I wish she was a Saudi shill. Just getting donations doesn't mean she's a shill, just that someone with a lot of cash wanted to gain a bit of favor with her.

Indeed.
It is all about influence peddling.
Just one of the things politicians do as naturally and well as devils.

[Kelinfort]

Opposing Russia's government is not opposing Russians. Take that strawman somewhere else.

Well to be fair isn't Russia a democracy? So presumably if you oppose the govt you at least I. Theory are opposing a significant plurality or majority of Russian voters. Of course how legit Russian democracy actually is, is a bit questionable.

If you love democracies like Turkey and Kazakhstan, you'll love Russian "democracy".

[Gauthier]

Opposing Russia's government is not opposing Russians. Take that strawman somewhere else.

Well to be fair isn't Russia a democracy? So presumably if you oppose the govt you at least I. Theory are opposing a significant plurality or majority of Russian voters. Of course how legit Russian democracy actually is, is a bit questionable.

A "democracy" that openly criminalizes LGBTs and effectively established Eastern Orthodox Christianity as the state religion.

[Llamalandia]

It kinda is a fact that Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States have given millions to the Clinton Foundation.

The Saudis giving money to a non-profit started by the Clintons equals the Clintons being in hock to the Saudis but Trump's personal finances being backed by Russian oligarchs is perfectly fine.

Well the Saudis are much worse than Russia after all the 9/11 hijackers weren't from mother Russia were they?

[Gauthier]

The Saudis giving money to a non-profit started by the Clintons equals the Clintons being in hock to the Saudis but Trump's personal finances being backed by Russian oligarchs is perfectly fine.

Well the Saudis are much worse than Russia after all the 9/11 hijackers weren't from mother Russia were they?

9/11 happened yesterday.

[Individual Concerns]

Well to be fair isn't Russia a democracy? So presumably if you oppose the govt you at least I. Theory are opposing a significant plurality or majority of Russian voters. Of course how legit Russian democracy actually is, is a bit questionable.

If you love democracies like Turkey and Kazakhstan, you'll love Russian "democracy".

At least Russia adopted universal sufferage.
I was always tickled about the old USSR, at its best, having just under 20% of its adult population ever earn the party membership required to have the priviledge of voting for the one party.

[Llamalandia]

Well to be fair isn't Russia a democracy? So presumably if you oppose the govt you at least I. Theory are opposing a significant plurality or majority of Russian voters. Of course how legit Russian democracy actually is, is a bit questionable.

A "democracy" that openly criminalizes LGBTs and effectively established Eastern Orthodox Christianity as the state religion.

Talking about democracy in the sense of letting people vote, not other aspects of classical liberalism. But yeah, Im not so sure those Russian elections are entirely fair.

[Llamalandia]

Well the Saudis are much worse than Russia after all the 9/11 hijackers weren't from mother Russia were they?

9/11 happened yesterday.

Pretty much the same Saudi royal family now as then. They've still not done enough to actually fight terrorism. Russia on the other hand has never really attacked America as far as I can remember. Not saying they are good guys, but there are still plenty more Middle East bad guys that are for worse from the whom the club tons have taken money for their foundation from.

[Gauthier]

9/11 happened yesterday.

Pretty much the same Saudi royal family now as then. They've still not done enough to actually fight terrorism. Russia on the other hand has never really attacked America as far as I can remember. Not saying they are good guys, but there are still plenty more Middle East bad guys that are for worse from the whom the club tons have taken money for their foundation from.

Also, the hijackers were directed and funded by the House of Said.

[Ashmoria]

If Clinton really cared about women why would she take any money from countries like Saudi Arabia, which has some of the worst women's rights in the world?

she doesn't take money from Saudi arabia

the Clinton foundation takes money from Saudi arabia in order to get good work done.

[Individual Concerns]

If Clinton really cared about women why would she take any money from countries like Saudi Arabia, which has some of the worst women's rights in the world?

she doesn't take money from Saudi arabia

the Clinton foundation takes money from Saudi arabia in order to get good work done.

By President Clinton in their best interests, which will not include the female population of course.