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Postby Gauthier » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:50 am

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Ashmoria wrote:it will suck BIGLY when they repeal Obamacare, when they privatize social security and voucherize medicare, when they blow a huge hole in the deficit by passing tax cuts for the rich requiring huge cuts in the social safety net.

All this sounds good to me


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Cool. A blog, and two echo-chambers. :rofl:
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:54 am



I bothered to provide sources and all you can do is roll on the ground laughing while looking for anything to dismiss them with. Okay.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:54 am


At some point laughing at all your own posts is either meaningless or a sign you've gone mad.

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Postby Arcipelago » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:56 am

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It kinda is a fact that Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States have given millions to the Clinton Foundation.


The Saudis giving money to a non-profit started by the Clintons equals the Clintons being in hock to the Saudis but Trump's personal finances being backed by Russian oligarchs is perfectly fine. :roll:

His personal finances being backed by rich Russians because how? He builds mansions for them.
That's not the same as the Saudis and other dictators giving money to a 'non-profit' run for the Clintons.
What they have similar is that Trump provides something in return for the money, I wonder what the Clintons provide...
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Postby Trotskylvania » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:56 am


George Will is an archconservative. The Washington Post is (in)famous for its conservative editorial slant.
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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:56 am

Gauthier wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Cool. A blog, and two echo-chambers. :rofl:


I bothered to provide sources and all you can do is roll on the ground laughing while looking for anything to dismiss them with. Okay.


You are the one who mentioned alt-right echo chambers, then tried to pass off leftist echo-chambers and a blog as sources. Of course I am rolling on the ground laughing. You are funny.
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Postby Trotskylvania » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:57 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
I bothered to provide sources and all you can do is roll on the ground laughing while looking for anything to dismiss them with. Okay.


You are the one who mentioned alt-right echo chambers, then tried to pass off leftist echo-chambers and a blog as sources. Of course I am rolling on the ground laughing. You are funny.

Yeah, and I'm the Last King of Scotland. :roll:
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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:58 am

Arcipelago wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
The Saudis giving money to a non-profit started by the Clintons equals the Clintons being in hock to the Saudis but Trump's personal finances being backed by Russian oligarchs is perfectly fine. :roll:

His personal finances being backed by rich Russians because how? He builds mansions for them.
That's not the same as the Saudis and other dictators giving money to a 'non-profit' run for the Clintons.
What they have similar is that Trump provides something in return for the money, I wonder what the Clintons provide...


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Postby Gauthier » Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:01 am

Trotskylvania wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
You are the one who mentioned alt-right echo chambers, then tried to pass off leftist echo-chambers and a blog as sources. Of course I am rolling on the ground laughing. You are funny.

Yeah, and I'm the Last King of Scotland. :roll:


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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:03 am

Ifreann wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:

Cool. A blog, and two echo-chambers. :rofl:

At some point laughing at all your own posts is either meaningless or a sign you've gone mad.


Good thing I was laughing at Gauth and his posts then, isn't it?
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Postby Trotskylvania » Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:22 am

Gauthier wrote:
Trotskylvania wrote:Yeah, and I'm the Last King of Scotland. :roll:


Hey Idi!

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Postby Shofercia » Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:25 am

Napkiraly wrote:
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You're presuming that Clinton would be more competent if elected, than she is right now. Do you seriously think that someone who puts government secrets on a largely unprotected server, someone who puts most of her eggs in one basket, (Clinton Foundation,) someone who is extraordinarily divisive in the US, someone who constantly panders to public opinion, someone whose husband constantly does stupid shit like his meeting with Lynch to talk about golf, someone who has advisers that didn't caution her to protect her e-mails better, that's someone who's going to beat Putin in Ukraine, in the Caucasus, in the Middle East? Really?

She'll be better than Trump who would put NATO's reliability into question or as of today potentially recognise Russia's annexation of Crimea.


You mean Trump will recognize the Will of the People? What an authoritarian bastard!

After the Referendum, the Crimeans continued to tell anyone who’d listen in the West, through polling, that they wanted to be with Russia and that in their eyes the Referendum was legitimate, whether it’s Gallup’s 83% figure, GFK’s 82% figure, or Pew’s 88% figure. Irrespective of how the Crimean Referendum was conducted, the Will of the Crimean People is clear: Unity with Russia. The Referendum’s numbers are similar. Roughly 80.4% of Crimeans turned out to vote on the Referendum and voted yes, as did 85.6% of the residents of Sevastopol. Considering that roughly about 15% of Crimeans live in Sevastopol, and 85% in the Peninsula, after adjusting those numbers we get a general voting tally of 81.2%, which is within the legitimate margin of error of 80%. The increase from 75% to 80% can easily be explained by President Putin’s pledge to provide massive economic assistance to Crimea.


https://ucgsblog.wordpress.com/2015/04/ ... ederation/

Russia and China are holding drills in the South China Sea, something that Russia wouldn't do, unless China agreed to de facto recognize Crimea: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-south ... SKCN1080O8

So you have a part of Russia, supported by the people, where sanctions failed, which cannot be taken back by monetary or political means, and whose lack of recognition by Europe is bringing China and Russia close enough to conduct drills in the South China Sea. Why would recognizing Crimea, or offering a Referendum to Ukraine, be a bad thing? I thought you liked Democracy.




Trump says a lot of things. This whole email controversy, and Trumps subsequent comments, provide a great example of why one should vote for neither Trump nor Clinton. There are other options, such as Johnson and Stein.


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Lady Scylla wrote:
Well, WikiLeaks has also stated that there is more to come, so I suppose we'll see.


I wonder just how much it will take to bring down the democrats. Probably quite a bit considering what democrat supporters have been willing to overlook so far.


Clinton supporters, you know the same ones who say that salary shouldn't be based on genitalia, are saying "vote for Clinton cause she's a woman!"


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Ashlak wrote:
While Trump is the worst of the two, it's not going to be the end of the world if he wins. If he does win, he'll basically just govern like your standard establishment Republican, which will suck, but it's something we've dealt with before. If we lasted two terms with Bush Jr., we can last at least one term with Mango Man.

At this point, I'm more concerned with electing down ballot progressives than anything else.

it will suck BIGLY when they repeal Obamacare, when they privatize social security and voucherize medicare, when they blow a huge hole in the deficit by passing tax cuts for the rich requiring huge cuts in the social safety net.


My finances were hurt as a result of Obamacare. Not all of us benefited from it.
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Postby Shofercia » Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:28 am

Trotskylvania wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:

Cool. A blog, and two echo-chambers. :rofl:

George Will is an archconservative. The Washington Post is (in)famous for its conservative editorial slant.


Yes, let's take a look at one of the WaPo authors: And few history textbooks take a critical view of Stalin’s performance during the conflict, known here as the Great Patriotic War. Largely forgotten is the 1939 Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact between the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany that allied Joseph Stalin with Hitler before Germany launched a surprise attack in 1941. The suffering Stalin inflicted on his own people, along with the pain the Red Army inflicted on Eastern Europe as it fought its way toward Berlin, goes unmentioned.

Really? So in Russia we don't learn about the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact? That's certainly news to me, because I learned about it, but hey, that's just Birnbaum writing. The suffering that Stalin inflicted goes unmentioned? Odd, because I recall studying about the Purges and the Gulag. And no, it wasn't a part of Glasnost, the purges were widely known as soon as Stalin died. Gulag took a bit longer to be revealed, but that, too, was revealed. WaPo is also infamous for its anti-Russian slant. I guess the anti-Russian slant won, but it's kind of funny how WaPo is an allegory for the election - either slant/candidate is bad.

And there's quite a hilarious quote from another source: Trump's main foreign policy advisor, Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, was fired for (in part) allegedly leaking secrets to the Kremlin and is still dogged by rumors of potentially being on the Kremlin payroll.

"In part allegedly for" - really? That's evidence? Mommy, the boogieman ate the cookies in the cookie jar, in part, allegedly for, eating cookies! I think that's evidence!

Of course if he was on Kremlin's payroll, and Obama had actual evidence, he would've been arrested by now.
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Postby Ashmoria » Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:36 am

Big Jim P wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
The Saudis giving money to a non-profit started by the Clintons equals the Clintons being in hock to Saudis but Trump's personal finances being backed by Russian oligarchs is perfectly fine. :roll:


A non-profit that uses 15% of it donations for it's supposed purpose. :rofl:

http://www.factcheck.org/2015/06/where- ... -money-go/
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Postby Gravlen » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:10 pm

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Postby Frank Zipper » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:14 pm

Shofercia wrote:Clinton supporters, you know the same ones who say that salary shouldn't be based on genitalia, are saying "vote for Clinton cause she's a woman!"


If the number of female presidents of the US was closer to the number of males ones, you might actually have a point. Otherwise it is a false equivalence.
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Postby Individual Concerns » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:20 pm

Frank Zipper wrote:
Shofercia wrote:Clinton supporters, you know the same ones who say that salary shouldn't be based on genitalia, are saying "vote for Clinton cause she's a woman!"


If the number of female presidents of the US was closer to the number of males ones, you might actually have a point. Otherwise it is a false equivalence.

I do not know about that, but the sad fact is, you just have to accept the pandering of identity politicians, and the simplicity by which many of their constuants determine how they vote.
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Postby Xadufell » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:22 pm

If Clinton really cared about women why would she take any money from countries like Saudi Arabia, which has some of the worst women's rights in the world?
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Postby Individual Concerns » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:27 pm

Xadufell wrote:If Clinton really cared about women why would she take any money from countries like Saudi Arabia, which has some of the worst women's rights in the world?

Not to mention intimidating and influcting any legal or economic harm she could against the victims who came forward about Free Willy's assaults.
(And I do not lump in those who freely cavorted with him.)
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Postby Knask » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:32 pm

Individual Concerns wrote:
Xadufell wrote:If Clinton really cared about women why would she take any money from countries like Saudi Arabia, which has some of the worst women's rights in the world?

Not to mention intimidating and influcting any legal or economic harm she could against the victims who came forward about Free Willy's assaults.
(And I do not lump in those who freely cavorted with him.)

Who? :unsure:

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Postby Khadgar » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:43 pm

Knask wrote:
Individual Concerns wrote:Not to mention intimidating and influcting any legal or economic harm she could against the victims who came forward about Free Willy's assaults.
(And I do not lump in those who freely cavorted with him.)

Who? :unsure:


She totally harassed and intimidated all the many (and there are hundreds) of victims of Bill Clinton of course. No there's not any proof why do you ask?

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Postby Shofercia » Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:31 pm

Frank Zipper wrote:
Shofercia wrote:Clinton supporters, you know the same ones who say that salary shouldn't be based on genitalia, are saying "vote for Clinton cause she's a woman!"


If the number of female presidents of the US was closer to the number of males ones, you might actually have a point. Otherwise it is a false equivalence.


If they say that gender should not be taken into account, then, *drumrolls* they shouldn't take gender into account. See how that works? It ain't magic.


Knask wrote:
Individual Concerns wrote:Not to mention intimidating and influcting any legal or economic harm she could against the victims who came forward about Free Willy's assaults.
(And I do not lump in those who freely cavorted with him.)

Who? :unsure:


http://heavy.com/news/2016/05/bill-clin ... -pictures/

As Hillary Clinton pursues a return to the White House, this time as president, she is facing attacks from presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump and his supporters over the numerous sexual misconduct allegations her husband has faced. President Bill Clinton has been accused of sexual assault by two women, Juanita Broaddrick and Kathleen Willey. At least eight other women have accused Bill Clinton of sexually harassing them or making unwanted sexual advances toward them, with the allegations dating back to the 1970s.

Trump and his supporters have said Hillary Clinton enabled her husband and victimized his accusers. At a rally in Oregon, Trump called Hillary Clinton, " an unbelievably nasty, mean enabler." Bill Clinton has brushed off questions about the allegations while campaigning for his wife. Hillary Clinton told CNN's Chris Cuomo she has "thick skin" and said about Trump she knows "exactly what he is fishing for, and you know I’m not going to be responding." As a general election showdown between Hillary Clinton and Trump appears to be likely, the attention on Bill Clinton's past with women is likely to be in the spotlight frequently. On May 23, Trump posted an Instagram video with the question "Is Hillary really protecting women?" The video includes images of Bill Clinton smoking a cigar and sitting with Hillary as she can be heard laughing. The video also features audio of Broaddrick and Willey. Bill Clinton has been accused of sexual assault or harassment by at least 10 women, a list you can see below:

Juanita Broaddrick |
Kathleen Willey |
Paula Jones |
Sandra Allen James |
Eileen Wellstone |
Christy Zercher |
Carolyn Moffet |
Helen Dowdy |
Becky Brown |
Regina Blakely Hopper |
Monica Lewinsky |
Elizabeth Ward Gracen |
Gennifer Flowers |
Connie Hamzy |
Dolly Kyle Browning |
Sally Miller (Sally Perdue) |
Lencola Sullivan
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Postby Empire of Narnia » Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:05 pm

I'm kinda leaning Republican because Mike Pence is very conservative and traditional. I don't like Trump though, he's not even a social conservative in my opinion.

Hillary is too Liberal and pretty corrupt as well as really corporate. I still find her personality more likable than Trump however.

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Postby Knask » Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:11 pm

Khadgar wrote:
Knask wrote:Who? :unsure:


She totally harassed and intimidated all the many (and there are hundreds) of victims of Bill Clinton of course. No there's not any proof why do you ask?

Oh I see, it's a cute nickname, and a well-founded accusation...

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