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by Gauthier » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:50 am

by Big Jim P » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:51 am


by Gauthier » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:54 am

by Arcipelago » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:56 am
Gauthier wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:
It kinda is a fact that Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States have given millions to the Clinton Foundation.
The Saudis giving money to a non-profit started by the Clintons equals the Clintons being in hock to the Saudis but Trump's personal finances being backed by Russian oligarchs is perfectly fine.

by Trotskylvania » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:56 am
Your Friendly Neighborhood Ultra - The Left Wing of the Impossible
Putting the '-sadism' in PosadismKarl Marx, Wage Labour and Capital
Anton Pannekoek, World Revolution and Communist Tactics
Amadeo Bordiga, Dialogue With Stalin
Nikolai Bukharin, The ABC of Communism
Gilles Dauvé, When Insurrections Die"The hell of capitalism is the firm, not the fact that the firm has a boss."- Bordiga

by Trotskylvania » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:57 am
Big Jim P wrote:Gauthier wrote:
I bothered to provide sources and all you can do is roll on the ground laughing while looking for anything to dismiss them with. Okay.
You are the one who mentioned alt-right echo chambers, then tried to pass off leftist echo-chambers and a blog as sources. Of course I am rolling on the ground laughing. You are funny.

Your Friendly Neighborhood Ultra - The Left Wing of the Impossible
Putting the '-sadism' in PosadismKarl Marx, Wage Labour and Capital
Anton Pannekoek, World Revolution and Communist Tactics
Amadeo Bordiga, Dialogue With Stalin
Nikolai Bukharin, The ABC of Communism
Gilles Dauvé, When Insurrections Die"The hell of capitalism is the firm, not the fact that the firm has a boss."- Bordiga

by Big Jim P » Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:58 am
Arcipelago wrote:Gauthier wrote:
The Saudis giving money to a non-profit started by the Clintons equals the Clintons being in hock to the Saudis but Trump's personal finances being backed by Russian oligarchs is perfectly fine.
His personal finances being backed by rich Russians because how? He builds mansions for them.
That's not the same as the Saudis and other dictators giving money to a 'non-profit' run for the Clintons.
What they have similar is that Trump provides something in return for the money, I wonder what the Clintons provide...

by Gauthier » Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:01 am

by Trotskylvania » Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:22 am
Your Friendly Neighborhood Ultra - The Left Wing of the Impossible
Putting the '-sadism' in PosadismKarl Marx, Wage Labour and Capital
Anton Pannekoek, World Revolution and Communist Tactics
Amadeo Bordiga, Dialogue With Stalin
Nikolai Bukharin, The ABC of Communism
Gilles Dauvé, When Insurrections Die"The hell of capitalism is the firm, not the fact that the firm has a boss."- Bordiga
by Shofercia » Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:25 am
Napkiraly wrote:Shofercia wrote:
You're presuming that Clinton would be more competent if elected, than she is right now. Do you seriously think that someone who puts government secrets on a largely unprotected server, someone who puts most of her eggs in one basket, (Clinton Foundation,) someone who is extraordinarily divisive in the US, someone who constantly panders to public opinion, someone whose husband constantly does stupid shit like his meeting with Lynch to talk about golf, someone who has advisers that didn't caution her to protect her e-mails better, that's someone who's going to beat Putin in Ukraine, in the Caucasus, in the Middle East? Really?
She'll be better than Trump who would put NATO's reliability into question or as of today potentially recognise Russia's annexation of Crimea.
After the Referendum, the Crimeans continued to tell anyone who’d listen in the West, through polling, that they wanted to be with Russia and that in their eyes the Referendum was legitimate, whether it’s Gallup’s 83% figure, GFK’s 82% figure, or Pew’s 88% figure. Irrespective of how the Crimean Referendum was conducted, the Will of the Crimean People is clear: Unity with Russia. The Referendum’s numbers are similar. Roughly 80.4% of Crimeans turned out to vote on the Referendum and voted yes, as did 85.6% of the residents of Sevastopol. Considering that roughly about 15% of Crimeans live in Sevastopol, and 85% in the Peninsula, after adjusting those numbers we get a general voting tally of 81.2%, which is within the legitimate margin of error of 80%. The increase from 75% to 80% can easily be explained by President Putin’s pledge to provide massive economic assistance to Crimea.
Great Feng wrote:Trump said it was sarcasm.https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/donald-trump-sarcastic-wanting-russia-find-hillary-clintons/story%3Fid%3D40955437&ved=0ahUKEwiEst2MwJbOAhUs4IMKHUnNAzsQqUMIITAB&usg=AFQjCNGAdpjqWN8DoOBhtUk2kMFfELYlKw&sig2=w41wOC5aYSNir-89PbuN9Q
Ashmoria wrote:Ashlak wrote:
While Trump is the worst of the two, it's not going to be the end of the world if he wins. If he does win, he'll basically just govern like your standard establishment Republican, which will suck, but it's something we've dealt with before. If we lasted two terms with Bush Jr., we can last at least one term with Mango Man.
At this point, I'm more concerned with electing down ballot progressives than anything else.
it will suck BIGLY when they repeal Obamacare, when they privatize social security and voucherize medicare, when they blow a huge hole in the deficit by passing tax cuts for the rich requiring huge cuts in the social safety net.
by Shofercia » Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:28 am

by Ashmoria » Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:36 am

by Frank Zipper » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:14 pm
Shofercia wrote:Clinton supporters, you know the same ones who say that salary shouldn't be based on genitalia, are saying "vote for Clinton cause she's a woman!"

by Individual Concerns » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:20 pm
Frank Zipper wrote:Shofercia wrote:Clinton supporters, you know the same ones who say that salary shouldn't be based on genitalia, are saying "vote for Clinton cause she's a woman!"
If the number of female presidents of the US was closer to the number of males ones, you might actually have a point. Otherwise it is a false equivalence.

by Xadufell » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:22 pm
Grinning Dragon wrote:Why would anyone waste a good bullet on the likes of CNN anyway? I don't understand why anyone would get that worked up over a bunch of dipshits, christ if their shit show is getting you that worked up, just turn the damn thing off and go for a walk/run/ride.

by Individual Concerns » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:27 pm
Xadufell wrote:If Clinton really cared about women why would she take any money from countries like Saudi Arabia, which has some of the worst women's rights in the world?

by Knask » Thu Jul 28, 2016 12:32 pm
Individual Concerns wrote:Xadufell wrote:If Clinton really cared about women why would she take any money from countries like Saudi Arabia, which has some of the worst women's rights in the world?
Not to mention intimidating and influcting any legal or economic harm she could against the victims who came forward about Free Willy's assaults.
(And I do not lump in those who freely cavorted with him.)

by Shofercia » Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:31 pm
Frank Zipper wrote:Shofercia wrote:Clinton supporters, you know the same ones who say that salary shouldn't be based on genitalia, are saying "vote for Clinton cause she's a woman!"
If the number of female presidents of the US was closer to the number of males ones, you might actually have a point. Otherwise it is a false equivalence.
As Hillary Clinton pursues a return to the White House, this time as president, she is facing attacks from presumptive Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump and his supporters over the numerous sexual misconduct allegations her husband has faced. President Bill Clinton has been accused of sexual assault by two women, Juanita Broaddrick and Kathleen Willey. At least eight other women have accused Bill Clinton of sexually harassing them or making unwanted sexual advances toward them, with the allegations dating back to the 1970s.
Trump and his supporters have said Hillary Clinton enabled her husband and victimized his accusers. At a rally in Oregon, Trump called Hillary Clinton, " an unbelievably nasty, mean enabler." Bill Clinton has brushed off questions about the allegations while campaigning for his wife. Hillary Clinton told CNN's Chris Cuomo she has "thick skin" and said about Trump she knows "exactly what he is fishing for, and you know I’m not going to be responding." As a general election showdown between Hillary Clinton and Trump appears to be likely, the attention on Bill Clinton's past with women is likely to be in the spotlight frequently. On May 23, Trump posted an Instagram video with the question "Is Hillary really protecting women?" The video includes images of Bill Clinton smoking a cigar and sitting with Hillary as she can be heard laughing. The video also features audio of Broaddrick and Willey. Bill Clinton has been accused of sexual assault or harassment by at least 10 women, a list you can see below:
Juanita Broaddrick |
Kathleen Willey |
Paula Jones |
Sandra Allen James |
Eileen Wellstone |
Christy Zercher |
Carolyn Moffet |
Helen Dowdy |
Becky Brown |
Regina Blakely Hopper |
Monica Lewinsky |
Elizabeth Ward Gracen |
Gennifer Flowers |
Connie Hamzy |
Dolly Kyle Browning |
Sally Miller (Sally Perdue) |
Lencola Sullivan

by Empire of Narnia » Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:05 pm
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