Gravlen wrote:Why haven't we nationalized all of the newspapers yet? As well as all the news channels?
It isnt necessary if they voluntarily shill for you.
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by Individual Concerns » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:19 am
Gravlen wrote:Why haven't we nationalized all of the newspapers yet? As well as all the news channels?
by The Lone Alliance » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:30 am
by Individual Concerns » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:44 am
by Laissez-Faire Economics » Mon Jul 25, 2016 9:44 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/23/twitter-users-erupt-dncleaks-disappears-from-trend/
This marks an ongoing trend from Twitter admins to censor trending topics which do not advance a radical progressive or neoliberal agenda, previous targets being Gamergate and pro-trump trends.
What are the implications of large corporations being able to dictate what is and is not acceptable in the public square?
We've also seen this year a number of stories alleging facebook has been censoring content that is not in line with a progressive agenda, and that google has been fiddling search results to benefit the clinton campaign.
In my opinion, given the highly interconnected nature of our establishment, this amounts to government censorship by the backdoor. By handing over the dirty work to corporations, the argument that freedom of speech only applies to government action can be utilized, even if the implicit understanding is that these actions will attain a corporation favors and amounts to something akin to large campaign finance contributions. It highlights a system failure of corporatist-democracy and the corrupt nature of our officials.
As we saw from the DNC leaks, politicians and officials have little issue with collaborating with private entities to control the political narrative. There only functional difference between corporatist censorship and government censorship is that corporatist censorship makes our elite less accountable for their actions.
Twitter benefits from routine journalistic and political usage and elites shilling for the usage of its platform, in conjunction with corporatism meaning that usual free market consumer tactics of boycotts will be rendered less effective. (Reporting on the boycott not likely to spread, competitors have barriers to entry, the company itself gets high profile users who benefit from it, etc.).
I don't see a way to deal with these issues except by tackling the broader systemic problems of corruption, insularity of our elites, media centralization, and political orthodoxy dominating a number of our institutions.
by Irona » Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:46 am
by Mike the Progressive » Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:48 am
by Shofercia » Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:52 am
Bernie Sanders said on Sunday that the leak of Democratic National Committee emails that show its staffers plotting against him proves Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz should resign. Shortly after the interview aired, CNN reported that Wasserman Schultz will no longer serve as chair of the Democratic National Convention in Philadelphia, which begins Monday. According to CNN, she’ll be replaced at the convention by Ohio Rep. Marcia Fudge. On CNN’s “State of the Union,” Sanders said the email leak proved once and for all that Wasserman Schultz was unfit to lead the committee.
“I don’t think she is qualified to be the chair of the DNC,” the Vermont senator said on CNN’s “State of the Union” Sunday. “Not only for these awful emails — which revealed the prejudice of the DNC — but also because we need a party that reaches out to working people and young people, and I don’t think her leadership style is doing that. I think she should resign, period,” Sanders said on ABC’s “This Week With George Stephanopoulos” Sunday. “I think I told you a long time ago that the DNC was not running a fair operation. That they were supporting Secretary Clinton,” he continued. “So what I suggested to be true six months ago turns out, in fact, to be true. I’m not shocked. But I am disappointed. And that is the way it is.”
Included among the emails released by Wikileaks was a message from DNC CFO Brad Marshall in which he suggested raising the issue of Sanders’ religion to dissuade support for him in states like Kentucky and West Virginia. “It might may [sic] no difference, but for KY and WV can we get someone to ask his belief,” Marshall wrote in an email on May 5. “Does he believe in God. He had skated on saying he has a Jewish heritage. I read he is an atheist. This could make several points difference with my peeps. My southern baptist peeps would draw a big difference between a Jew and an atheist.” Sanders, who is Jewish, addressed Marshall’s rumormongering Sunday. “I am not an atheist,” he said. “But aside from all of that, it is an outrage and sad that you would have people in important positions in the DNC trying to undermine my campaign. It goes without saying, the function of the DNC is to represent all of the candidates, to be fair and even-minded.” The release of the DNC emails comes on the eve of the convention in Philadelphia, where Hillary Clinton will formally accept the Democratic nomination on Thursday.
by Mike the Progressive » Mon Jul 25, 2016 10:55 am
by Shofercia » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:01 am
Bulgar Rouge wrote:So, the DNC now says it's the Russians. Clinton's cronies are getting desperate AF.
Bulgar Rouge wrote:New Werpland wrote:Link?
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-e ... SKCN1040TOThe Clinton camp questioned whether Russians may have had a hand in the hack attack on the party's emails and were interested in helping Trump, who has exchanged words of praise with Russian President Vladimir Putin.
“What's disturbing to us is that experts are telling us that Russian state actors broke into the DNC, stole these emails and other experts are now saying that Russians are releasing these emails for the purpose of helping Donald Trump," Clinton campaign chairman Robby Mook said on CNN's "State of the Union."
"Experts are telling us..."
Washington Resistance Army wrote:It's the Putin-Trump NWO at it again.
by New Werpland » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:15 am
Irona wrote:Two can play that game. There's as much evidence that Hilary was involved in the DNC debacle as their is Putin was.
by New Werpland » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:16 am
Shofercia wrote:How do you know that Clinton won't benefit Putin more?
by Cymrea » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:17 am
by New Werpland » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:19 am
by Cymrea » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:20 am
by New Werpland » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:24 am
by Gravlen » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:34 am
by Trotskylvania » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:42 am
Ostroeuropa wrote:Gravlen wrote:What, exactly, are we crying censorship over here?
Twitter and Facebooks reaction to the DNC leaks.
Facebook has declared they are a 'dangerous' website and will block posting links to wikileaks. Twitter removed DNCLeaks from its trending results at its peak. (Something they've done before, but not in an election year to relevant election news.).
It would be akin to removing a front page NS thread from view and using the defense that if you want to post in that thread you can use the search bar to find it.
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by Ethel mermania » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:54 am
by Vassenor » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:56 am
Ethel mermania wrote:Ifreann wrote:But Gravlen, obviously they are shilling for the Establishment. The Elites. The shadowy cabal of [preferred political opponents] who secretly run the world.
They are shilling for their political agenda. They supress things they don't like and promote things they do. They are corporations they are allowed too, thst said it is a bit hypocritical for them to complain when other private corporations push their own agendas (Goldman sachs, exxon mobil,) as well.
Google, twitter, facebook, et al. HAve no obligation to look out for th public interest or cater to public debate. They push what they see as benificial to themselves. Google games search results, twitter and Facebook game what is trending.
The only question I have, is why is this news?
by Ethel mermania » Mon Jul 25, 2016 11:58 am
Trotskylvania wrote:Ostroeuropa wrote:
Twitter and Facebooks reaction to the DNC leaks.
Facebook has declared they are a 'dangerous' website and will block posting links to wikileaks. Twitter removed DNCLeaks from its trending results at its peak. (Something they've done before, but not in an election year to relevant election news.).
It would be akin to removing a front page NS thread from view and using the defense that if you want to post in that thread you can use the search bar to find it.
People's private personal information are at stake. This includes financial information, phone numbers, home addresses, etc.
Responsible news organizations redact such private information. Wikileaks does not. As organizations, Twitter and Facebook could be potentially held liable for the propagation of private, often legally protected information.
You're making a mountain out of an anthill.
by Gauthier » Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:00 pm
by Cymrea » Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:08 pm
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