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Is the leaks a massive blow to the DNC?

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Postby Jumalariik » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:05 pm

New Werpland wrote:Why does Wikileaks want Trump to win?

They might just want to hold public officials to a reasonable standard...
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Postby Maurepas » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:06 pm

I don't really know. I suppose it has to be a blow against the DNC, but Hillary personally didn't do anything and we all knew she was the establishment's candidate anyway. It really wasn't any different from what the RNC tried to do to Trump before it caved under overwhelming voter support out of the GOP base.

Regardless though, this is pretty scary:

"Researchers have concluded that the national committee was breached by two Russian intelligence agencies, which were the same attackers behind previous Russian cyberoperations at the White House, the State Department and the Joint Chiefs of Staff last year. And metadata from the released emails suggests that the documents passed through Russian computers. Though a hacker claimed responsibility for giving the emails to WikiLeaks, the same agencies are the prime suspects. Whether the thefts were ordered by Mr. Putin, or just carried out by apparatchiks who thought they might please him, is anyone’s guess."


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/25/us/po ... share&_r=0

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Postby Jumalariik » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:06 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
New Werpland wrote:Why does Wikileaks want Trump to win?


Because hillary is such a bad candidate?

That too. I mean if they switched roles of VP pick and candidate this situation would be different. Trump is so unpopular, but Hillary, who is worse than a dog high on meth and money is showing herself to be a criminal.
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Postby Maurepas » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:07 pm

New Werpland wrote:Why does Wikileaks want Trump to win?

Considering where the data came from, it's more likely that they are simply putting out the information they have, and not so much actively in favor of Trump.

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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:08 pm

Maurepas wrote:I don't really know. I suppose it has to be a blow against the DNC, but Hillary personally didn't do anything and we all knew she was the establishment's candidate anyway. It really wasn't any different from what the RNC tried to do to Trump before it caved under overwhelming voter support out of the GOP base.

Regardless though, this is pretty scary:

"Researchers have concluded that the national committee was breached by two Russian intelligence agencies, which were the same attackers behind previous Russian cyberoperations at the White House, the State Department and the Joint Chiefs of Staff last year. And metadata from the released emails suggests that the documents passed through Russian computers. Though a hacker claimed responsibility for giving the emails to WikiLeaks, the same agencies are the prime suspects. Whether the thefts were ordered by Mr. Putin, or just carried out by apparatchiks who thought they might please him, is anyone’s guess."


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/25/us/po ... share&_r=0

In fairness several GOP establishment members are fighting Trump. Though it is weird when Ted Cruz is the rational person in the room.
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Postby Maurepas » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:09 pm

greed and death wrote:In fairness several GOP establishment members are fighting Trump. Though it is weird when Ted Cruz is the rational person in the room.

Yeah, I do have to give Ted Cruz some credit. As much as I dislike the guy, he was the only one with the balls to stay #NeverTrump.

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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:09 pm

New Werpland wrote:Why does Wikileaks want Trump to win?

It is likely Republicans are better at Data Security and keeping the crazy shit off the email servers, instead posting them on Twitter where they belong.
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Postby New Werpland » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:09 pm

Jumalariik wrote:
New Werpland wrote:Why does Wikileaks want Trump to win?

They might just want to hold public officials to a reasonable standard...

I wouldn't do so when the consequence might be increasing the chance of handing the position of Leader of the Free World to an utter dipshit.

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Postby Kubra » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:09 pm

New Werpland wrote:Why does Wikileaks want Trump to win?
if there's any dirt on the RNC and they had it, they'd release that too.

Sorry folks but this ain't news, this is simply the democratic process.
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:10 pm

Maurepas wrote:
greed and death wrote:In fairness several GOP establishment members are fighting Trump. Though it is weird when Ted Cruz is the rational person in the room.

Yeah, I do have to give Ted Cruz some credit. As much as I dislike the guy, he was the only one with the balls to stay #NeverTrump.

Several others just did not go to the convention.
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Postby New Werpland » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:10 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
New Werpland wrote:Why does Wikileaks want Trump to win?


Because hillary is such a bad candidate?

:rofl:

Try living in Brazil or anywhere that isn't in Europe or North America and then talk to me about bad candidates.

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Postby New Grestin » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:11 pm

You know, I'm going to be honest.

I'm not at all remotely fucking surprised that there was some bullshit going on with this election. I mean, I think everyone's just kind of acknowledged that this is how things are, and have pretty much always been. Politics is shady. Fine, I accept that.

What I am surprised about is the sheer depth that this goes.
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Postby Senkaku » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:12 pm

New Werpland wrote:Why does Wikileaks want Trump to win?

Because the Russian government handed them a pile of emails from powerful people and they love taking Washington down a peg?
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Postby Greed and Death » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:13 pm

New Werpland wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
Because hillary is such a bad candidate?

:rofl:

Try living in Brazil or anywhere that isn't in Europe or North America and then talk to me about bad candidates.

Dont worry after Trump wins we will be there.
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Postby American Imperial State » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:13 pm

I highly doubt that Hillary was not involved or aware on some level of the activities of the DNC. Debbie and Hillary are definitely not strangers and they kept in contact. Debbie worked for clinton in 08 and right after she resigned she was appointed to Hillarys campaign.

Trump is going to win. And it's not because he's such a great and wonderful candidate. It's because Hillary Clinton is such a horrible and corrupt one. This is a level of corruption that surpasses Nixon in my opinion.

A majority of the American people believe she should have been indicted on felony charges over the email scandal, and now this. Anyone else would have walked over Trump.

There is only one reason Hillary is the democratic nominee: corruption and an undermining of the Democratic process. And the corrupt left wing media.
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Postby Ariasteppe » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:14 pm

Maurepas wrote:
greed and death wrote:In fairness several GOP establishment members are fighting Trump. Though it is weird when Ted Cruz is the rational person in the room.

Yeah, I do have to give Ted Cruz some credit. As much as I dislike the guy, he was the only one with the balls to stay #NeverTrump.

Ahhh Ted Cruz, the only person who could stand against Trump and defend his honour and his family from bullying... and yet still leave you with a bitter taste in the mouth because you know it's really just him grandstanding for 2020 lol.
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Postby The Lone Alliance » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:14 pm

New Werpland wrote:
Jumalariik wrote:They might just want to hold public officials to a reasonable standard...

I wouldn't do so when the consequence might be increasing the chance of handing the position of Leader of the Free World to an utter dipshit.

It's the difference between incompetent evil and competent evil.
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Postby New Grestin » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:19 pm

greed and death wrote:Dont worry after Trump wins we will be there.

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Postby Novorneika » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:19 pm

We must lynch Hillary Clinton and Debbie Schultz in front of everyone on the Convention Stage!!!!!!

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Postby New Werpland » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:25 pm

Oh wow, I actually read something about this, and it is nothing.

It is obvious that they were biased against Bernie. I thought this leak was about actual malevolent play.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:26 pm

New Werpland wrote:
Jumalariik wrote:They might just want to hold public officials to a reasonable standard...

I wouldn't do so when the consequence might be increasing the chance of handing the position of Leader of the Free World to an utter dipshit.


You want hillary as leader of the free world? :blink:
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Postby New Werpland » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:26 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
New Werpland wrote:I wouldn't do so when the consequence might be increasing the chance of handing the position of Leader of the Free World to an utter dipshit.


You want hillary as leader of the free world? :blink:

Yep.

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Postby The Lone Alliance » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:28 pm

New Werpland wrote:Oh wow, I actually read something about this, and it is nothing.

It is obvious that they were biased against Bernie. I thought this leak was about actual malevolent play.

What about telling the media what they could report and what they couldn't report?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:28 pm

New Werpland wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:
You want hillary as leader of the free world? :blink:

Yep.


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Postby Senkaku » Sun Jul 24, 2016 9:28 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
New Werpland wrote:I wouldn't do so when the consequence might be increasing the chance of handing the position of Leader of the Free World to an utter dipshit.


You want hillary as leader of the free world? :blink:

There's a surprising number of us. The lizards are a-comin' for your guns, Jim! :p
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