Milo Yiannopoulos banned from Twitter.

[Sovranita]

#FreeMilo

[Ostroeuropa]

It's not a conspiracy. It's institutional bias.

That's the conspiracy here.

It doesn't require active collaboration or communication between participants, so it isn't a conspiracy.
Like I said earlier:

Who said anything about a conspiracy?
People being disingenuous isn't a conspiracy. It happens in politics all the time.

You're doing it now, in fact, by insisting we're talking about a conspiracy.

As i've pointed out before when your side pulls this conspiracy smear, you're actually the one with the mind of a conspiracy theorist if you can't comprehend this situation without some kind of nefarious cabal being involved. Is that the case, or are you actually just knee-jerk mocking things that challenge your worldview and trying to discredit the opposition?

No cabal needed, just people with a particular worldview and a belief that lying or being disingenuous to advance an agenda is acceptable. Like how anti-abortionists keep repeating the "Planned parenthood sells babyparts!" thing isn't them engaged in a conspiracy.

Difference is, they at least have the honesty not to accuse you of being a conspiracy theorist when you point out they're lying about it.

Here, twitter has a decidedly radical progressive abuse committee. That colors what they view as priorities and such.

The cultural narrative is also one of consistent double standards.

#killallmen

for example.

If you have an institution absolutely stuffed full of racists and sexists, there need be no conspiracy to get biased results.

[Minzerland]

Encouraging users to send people abuse and posting fake screenshots to try and stir people up? Having received two previous warnings? Got banned? The poor dear.

[Citation needed] if you would so kindly.

[Prussia-Steinbach]

I'd be interested in seeing how you arrive at the conclusion that IS does not "challenge soc-jus ideology".

Because that sounds fascinating.

Ooh, yeah. You know what else? I am quite curious about why Ostro thinks Twitter hasn't taken any action against Daesh. You know, since that's just flat-out false at face value.

I'd say it's outright proven that Twitter simply doesn't rank organized international violent terrorist activity on their site as a big issue compared to someone mocking feminists and BLM. Why else would Milo receive action before ISIS?

I wouldn't say that they support ISIS. Just that they don't care.

...really? Then why would they be working with law enforcement to block and delete so many thousands of pieces of online ISIS material? Like, if you're not lying, Ostro, why would it be documented that Twitter practices a "systematic removal of terrorist content?" Why is the US government under the impression that they're collaborating with Twitter to ensure rule-breaking Daesh accounts are dealt with...? I don't understand...

[Prussia-Steinbach]

It is a literal conspiracy.

Is patriarchy a conspiracy too?

Conspiracy is a deliberate plan by three or more people, I believe. So no.

[Ostroeuropa]

Is patriarchy a conspiracy too?

Conspiracy is a deliberate plan by three or more people, I believe. So no.

Precisely my point. I've never alleged a conspiracy, and people who keep bringing this up are being disingenuous.

That so many of them do it actually highlights my point in a self-proving way.

Did Imperializt Russia, vassenor, and Alvecia confer to push this nonsense?
No, they did so independently.

Imagine that, but on a committee.

[Vassenor]

OK, now I'm confused. Since there is apparently simultaneously a massive feminist conspiracy at work and also no conspiracy at all.

[Ostroeuropa]

OK, now I'm confused. Since there is apparently simultaneously a massive feminist conspiracy at work and also no conspiracy at all.

Where have I ever alleged a conspiracy, or even conferring between participants? You've confused your caricature of your opponents with reality.

The twitter abuse committee is decidedly radical progressive. This colors their views and their priorities.
In a culture already leaning toward anti-male sexism, and beginning to embrace anti-white racism (In rhetoric, though not action), this means that they have a track record of overlooking or not investigating left-leaning and liberal abuse, harassment, etc, and over-policing and attacking conservatives.

In addition, they have a culture of constantly demonizing the opposition and demonizing criticism of their actions. That means you only need one rogue agent to ban milo unfairly, and the others will toe the line and agree with that out of fear they'll be cast out.

The public don't enter a conspiracy not to challenge cultures of fear. They merely exist within them. SocJus is no different.

[Hirota]

Actually, under EU law, twitter might have difficulties. Yes, twitter is a US organisation, but non-US users are handled in Ireland, and thus fall under EU law

You say EU law, yet fail to specify which part of EU law supposedly would compel Twitter to provide a platform to any and all users.

Read the first link. EU law also provides a private right of action (to sue) - go look at Google v Vidal-Hall & Ors for an example of a Data Protection breach that the courts agreed could lead to compensatory damages.

But there is also the option of employing Irish law, specifically The data protection Act 1988 of Ireland (although that's basically the Irish implementation of EU legislation). Since non-US users and their data are handled in Ireland, this includes all EU users.

Most of this information is from this gentleman.

[Wolfmanne2]

OK, now I'm confused. Since there is apparently simultaneously a massive feminist conspiracy at work and also no conspiracy at all.

Where have I ever alleged a conspiracy, or even conferring between participants? You've confused your caricature of your opponents with reality.

At times you've alleged that neoliberalism and feminism are both ideologies that have created a cultural climate to oppress men.

[Ostroeuropa]

Where have I ever alleged a conspiracy, or even conferring between participants? You've confused your caricature of your opponents with reality.

At times you've alleged that neoliberalism and feminism are both ideologies that have created a cultural climate to oppress men.

But that's not a conspiracy either. like I said:

The twitter abuse committee is decidedly radical progressive. This colors their views and their priorities.
In a culture already leaning toward anti-male sexism, and beginning to embrace anti-white racism (In rhetoric, though not action), this means that they have a track record of overlooking or not investigating left-leaning and liberal abuse, harassment, etc, and over-policing and attacking conservatives.

In addition, they have a culture of constantly demonizing the opposition and demonizing criticism of their actions. That means you only need one rogue agent to ban milo unfairly, and the others will toe the line and agree with that out of fear they'll be cast out.

The public don't enter a conspiracy not to challenge cultures of fear. They merely exist within them. SocJus is no different.

It's not a conspiracy to have a bunch of sexists terrorizing people into compliance. An activist or a politician lying to people about their goals isn't a conspiracy either.
That not every feminist agrees with the ones who run their institutions is irrelevant.

[Veceria]

Ah, at least something positive came from the whole Ghostdesasters stuff.

[United Dixieland Territories]

I can't read minds. I'm pointing out that the only thing seperating milo from all these examples of people currently using twitter, is he openly criticizes socjus. That's what he was banned for.

He also posted screenshots of fake Twitter messages. Twitter does not approve of such shenanigans.

Yet it sure-as-shitfire loves ISIS Recruitment.

[Alvecia]

Conspiracy is a deliberate plan by three or more people, I believe. So no.

Precisely my point. I've never alleged a conspiracy, and people who keep bringing this up are being disingenuous.

That so many of them do it actually highlights my point in a self-proving way.

Did Imperializt Russia, vassenor, and Alvecia confer to push this nonsense?
No, they did so independently.

Imagine that, but on a committee.

I'm sorry, but all I can see here is you finding as many gaps as you can and filling them in with your own personal narrative.

A group of people were banned from Twitter because they broke the TOS. This is what we've been told.
Twitter themselves has not come forth and highlighted exactly which tweets led to this decision, therefore, according to you, no such tweets exist?
Twitter is inconsistent with their enforcement of the TOS. This is not news. This is something that has been know for quite some time. Yet somehow it's relevent all of a sudden and is clear evidence that this is a targeted attack against a particular ideology?
Twitters new comittee has been around for almost half a year now with, though I may be wrong, no clear signs of targeting a particular ideology. But this is clearly the result of the SJW's on the comittee attempting to no platform their ideological opposition?

This has all the hallmarks of someone throwing their favourite narrative at an event, seeing where it sticks and shout "Look! Proof!"
I'm not buying it.

[Khadgar]

Milo got banned and nothing of value was lost. Honestly twitter is such a massive shithole I can't imagine how it could be improved at this point short of banning about 90% of it's users. Look at almost any trending topic and it's full of trolls and bigots.

[Imperializt Russia]

He also posted screenshots of fake Twitter messages. Twitter does not approve of such shenanigans.

Yet it sure-as-shitfire loves ISIS Recruitment.

So much so that it bans tens of tens of thousands of IS accounts

[Alvecia]

He also posted screenshots of fake Twitter messages. Twitter does not approve of such shenanigans.

Yet it sure-as-shitfire loves ISIS Recruitment.

Erm...

I'd be interested in seeing how you arrive at the conclusion that IS does not "challenge soc-jus ideology".

Because that sounds fascinating.

Ooh, yeah. You know what else? I am quite curious about why Ostro thinks Twitter hasn't taken any action against Daesh. You know, since that's just flat-out false at face value.

I'd say it's outright proven that Twitter simply doesn't rank organized international violent terrorist activity on their site as a big issue compared to someone mocking feminists and BLM. Why else would Milo receive action before ISIS?

I wouldn't say that they support ISIS. Just that they don't care.

...really? Then why would they be working with law enforcement to block and delete so many thousands of pieces of online ISIS material? Like, if you're not lying, Ostro, why would it be documented that Twitter practices a "systematic removal of terrorist content?" Why is the US government under the impression that they're collaborating with Twitter to ensure rule-breaking Daesh accounts are dealt with...? I don't understand...

[Gravlen]

Conspiracy is a deliberate plan by three or more people, I believe. So no.

Precisely my point. I've never alleged a conspiracy, and people who keep bringing this up are being disingenuous.

That so many of them do it actually highlights my point in a self-proving way.

Did Imperializt Russia, vassenor, and Alvecia confer to push this nonsense?
No, they did so independently.

Imagine that, but on a committee.

Here on NS, the moderators and admins asked for feedback on the rules and the way they did things. They asked for a council of sorts. I seem to recall that Bottle, an outspoken feminist, contributed in that thread. Given this, is it correct to claim that there's a strong feminist influence on the rules of NS and how they're managed? Does NS have a strong feminist bias due to that thread?

[Vassenor]

He also posted screenshots of fake Twitter messages. Twitter does not approve of such shenanigans.

Yet it sure-as-shitfire loves ISIS Recruitment.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/ ... dia-jihadi

http://www.slate.com/articles/technolog ... kfire.html

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1409 ... om.01.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the- ... employees/

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... ism-online

But yes, tell us more about how Twitter supports ISIS.

[Ostroeuropa]

If the allegation about milo tweeting fake tweet screenshots is true, i'd say that holds considerably more merit, and could be tantamount to libel if presented as serious tweets from the individuals in question.

Note however he wasn't banned for libel. I've merely ammended my position to say thy could have banned him, but not for the reasons they've given.

[The Princes of the Universe]

Encouraging users to send people abuse and posting fake screenshots to try and stir people up? Having received two previous warnings? Got banned? The poor dear.

Between this and my pre-existing disgust for the hypocritical and cowardly son of a bitch, good riddance.

[Herador]

He also posted screenshots of fake Twitter messages. Twitter does not approve of such shenanigans.

Yet it sure-as-shitfire loves ISIS Recruitment.

I have to imagine that with 310 million users in Q1 2016, twitter probably found it easier to ban a single well-publicised event (involving two people of not inconsiderable fame) rather than single individuals who likely have immensely smaller contact... webs. I guess is the term. Either way, the two don't seem super related no?

[Prussia-Steinbach]

He also posted screenshots of fake Twitter messages. Twitter does not approve of such shenanigans.

Yet it sure-as-shitfire loves ISIS Recruitment.

Quit telling lies.

...that's just flat-out false.

...why would they be working with law enforcement to block and delete so many thousands of pieces of online ISIS material? Like, if you're not lying, UDT, why would it be documented that Twitter practices a "systematic removal of terrorist content?" Why is the US government under the impression that they're collaborating with Twitter to ensure rule-breaking Daesh accounts are dealt with...? I don't understand...

[The Princes of the Universe]

Yet it sure-as-shitfire loves ISIS Recruitment.

Quit telling lies.

...that's just flat-out false.
...why would they be working with law enforcement to block and delete so many thousands of pieces of online ISIS material? Like, if you're not lying, UDT, why would it be documented that Twitter practices a "systematic removal of terrorist content?" Why is the US government under the impression that they're collaborating with Twitter to ensure rule-breaking Daesh accounts are dealt with...? I don't understand...

Not sure if UDT was actually serious...

[San Marxos]

Verbal attacks.

Oh man Verbal attacks, someone get me a damn pillow so i can cry on facebook.

Go drown yourself and any of your relations in your own feces, you fascist cow molester. See how it feels?