Milo Yiannopoulos banned from Twitter.

[Liriena]

No, not really.

George Takei is fabulous and hilarious.
Milo is a diva who thinks being a douchebro makes him a satirist.


He said a lot of other things, but I suppose I can't fault you for cherry-picking for his sake.


So, you didn't actually see the movie, but you take a meme's "summary" of it at face value?

Well obviously you haven't seen this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YUjIJI2gFg *slightly inappropriate warning

Sorry. Not interested in the douchebro's self-indulgence.

I heard the movie was okay, but sorta messed up by the attempts to appeal to feminists. The ones with men were better no surprise

Thank goodness you added a at the end, or I would have thought the underlined warranted a bit of feminazism.

[Arkinesia]

Yiannopoulos wasn't banned for “being a dick” or some other vagary like that.

Only that is pretty much exactly what happened. It seems that it was his followers that were going after this celebrity.

Reading is your friend.

He was banned because he was inciting hate by slandering Leslie Jones. This isn't complicated: if you post an edited, fake tweet and claim it is real, twitter will probably smack you. Because that's a violation of the terms of service.

Arkinesia, welcome to Cuckolds United

CUCK CUCK CUCK CUCK CUCK CUCK CUCK.

I think it's ironic that alt-righters use the term so much when they quite frequently fit the definition very well, wanting to be oppressed the way they do.

Unless Milo himself outright told his followers, "yes, go ahead and harass and insult Leslie Jones for me, she deserves everything she gets." I don't see it as having incited anything. It is Milo's fault what his followers do independently of him, how?

Milo posted an edited tweet supposedly written by Leslie Jones, which was not in fact written by Leslie Jones, and implied that all racist attacks against her are fabrications of a PR team and not actual people.

He continued to insist the tweet was real when it was fake the entire time. Which is a violation of twitter TOS.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

It would be a TOS violation for me to call Yuckyuck stupid, and would likely get me warned. It would likely end in a suspension or DEAT if I were to encourage harassment of Yuckyuck, and if I started using racist terminology or insulting Yuckyuck's looks even after two suspensions, I'd likely be permabanned.

And here's the other problem with the awful article in the OP. It doesn't actually provide any quotes or screencaps or anything evidencing Milo's involvement in the trolling. (Unless I just missed it?)

It does sound like something he might do, but seriously. Is there some other, better-in-every-way article the OP forgot? I didn't find one linked in the article itself.

Here. Ignore the article, which is heavily slanted towards Jones's point of view, and just read the tweets themselves. Then read what Milo's response was, and put that into context with previous tweets where he's referred to her as a man, and add on the two suspensions he'd already received for previous TOS violations. This was participation in, and implicit encouragement of, racist and sexist harassment.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

That having a fetish for people of a certain race doesn't mean that you see them as equals. Plenty of white racists have slept with black women, but that didn't mean that they respected them, or saw them as equals. The idea of the geisha or the dragon lady turns on numerous men, but it doesn't mean that they see them as anything but sex objects.

How do you know about all this? Sounds like you're hanging around with a bad crowd

I'm hanging out here, so that much is obvious.

[The Grene Knyght]

It would be a TOS violation for me to call Yuckyuck stupid, and would likely get me warned. It would likely end in a suspension or DEAT if I were to encourage harassment of Yuckyuck, and if I started using racist terminology or insulting Yuckyuck's looks even after two suspensions, I'd likely be permabanned.

And here's the other problem with the awful article in the OP. It doesn't actually provide any quotes or screencaps or anything evidencing Milo's involvement in the trolling. (Unless I just missed it?)

It does sound like something he might do, but seriously. Is there some other, better-in-every-way article the OP forgot? I didn't find one linked in the article itself.

In my defence, every article I came across was exactly the same.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

No, I really haven't. I'm one of these people who lives under a rock about certain things.

Well welcome. He's a fascinating man.

He's been doing this for months, implicitly encouraged his followers to do so by dismissing her criticism of the racist comments as not being able to handle "hate mail",

Even this isn't a full quote or screencap, but I'll take it at face value. Dismissing her trolls is not encouraging them. I don't see how you can construe it as such.

Clearly, he thinks that this type of harassment is normal, and that she's exploiting hers for personal gain. How does that encourage the trolls, exactly? By minimizing their impact? Isn't that the #1 way to deal with trolls, minimize their impact by ignoring them?

and violated Twitter's TOS in the process.

When? Only thru the "hate mail" comment?

He participated in the pile-on. Your comment about minimizing was so utterly and intentionally disingenuous that it doesn't meet the basic standards for a sincere response.

[Saiwania]

Milo posted an edited tweet supposedly written by Leslie Jones, which was not in fact written by Leslie Jones, and implied that all racist attacks against her are fabrications of a PR team and not actual people.

He used a fake Twitter post generator? If that is the case, then Milo's deletion is justified. But I think that there is more evidence of his followers having done this than there is of Milo himself utilizing whatever breaks Twitter TOS.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Milo posted an edited tweet supposedly written by Leslie Jones, which was not in fact written by Leslie Jones, and implied that all racist attacks against her are fabrications of a PR team and not actual people.

He used a fake Twitter post generator? If that is the case, then Milo's deletion is justified. But I think that there is more evidence of his followers having done this than there is of Milo himself utilizing whatever breaks Twitter TOS.

Followers of his who participated are also getting banned. Frankly, if it hadn't been for previous TOS violations on his part, he might have ducked serious backlash.

[Nerotysia]

Here. Ignore the article, which is heavily slanted towards Jones's point of view, and just read the tweets themselves. Then read what Milo's response was, and put that into context with previous tweets where he's referred to her as a man, and add on the two suspensions he'd already received for previous TOS violations. This was participation in, and implicit encouragement of, racist and sexist harassment.

Wondrous, some tweets from Milo.

Yea doesn't seem absurd he was banned. Again, whatever.

He participated in the pile-on. Your comment about minimizing was so utterly and intentionally disingenuous that it doesn't meet the basic standards for a sincere response.

It was poorly constructed, and I was going to edit it, and decided that would be worse.

What I mean is, simply dismissing her trolls does not encourage them. That's a silly standard. He does not think the trolls are a serious problem for her, and believes that she should therefore not act as though they are. This is not the same as encouraging the trolling.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Here. Ignore the article, which is heavily slanted towards Jones's point of view, and just read the tweets themselves. Then read what Milo's response was, and put that into context with previous tweets where he's referred to her as a man, and add on the two suspensions he'd already received for previous TOS violations. This was participation in, and implicit encouragement of, racist and sexist harassment.

Wondrous, some tweets from Milo.

Yea doesn't seem absurd he was banned. Again, whatever.

He participated in the pile-on. Your comment about minimizing was so utterly and intentionally disingenuous that it doesn't meet the basic standards for a sincere response.

It was poorly constructed, and I was going to edit it, and decided that would be worse.

What I mean is, simply dismissing her trolls does not encourage them. That's a silly standard. He does not think the trolls are a serious problem for her, and believes that she should therefore not act as though they are. This is not the same as encouraging the trolling.

Again, on its own, it might not have been that bad, but he'd been making nasty posts about her for months, and considering what posts by him have resulted in in the past (and considering that they've led to suspensions), he knew that he was fanning the flames. To pretend that his tweet went out in a vacuum, and that it had no effect on the pile-on in session, is intelligence-insulting.

[Nerotysia]

Again, on its own, it might not have been that bad, but he'd been making nasty posts about her for months, and considering what posts by him have resulted in in the past (and considering that they've led to suspensions), he knew that he was fanning the flames. To pretend that his tweet went out in a vacuum, and that it had no effect on the pile-on in session, is intelligence-insulting.

Well, if we're going to consider context, we should also consider the context that he very much dislikes people who he feels exploit their trolls. He has expounded upon this numerous times in numerous settings, and has laid out his reasoning why he dislikes it.

So I read his tweet as just a brusque restatement of this opinion. His trolling was largely separate.

I don't think we can say one narrative is more legitimate than the other without being inside Milo's head, which is why I'd suggest people stop using the hate mail tweet as evidence for his trolling. Just use the actual trollish stuff.

[Dameth]

Yeah, so I read the article. Typical Milo, but funny as all hell. I can pardon the stupid jabs at the "left establishment", which doesn't make any sense, I guess he's appealing to his main audience - the last part is pure gold.
People who don't understand Milo's popularity would earn something by rewatching an excellent movie, Old Boy. It has a neet catch phrase people should meditate upon.

Man, this guy. Just reposting the link for people with a bit of humor left, it def worths it.

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/07/1 ... stbusters/

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Again, on its own, it might not have been that bad, but he'd been making nasty posts about her for months, and considering what posts by him have resulted in in the past (and considering that they've led to suspensions), he knew that he was fanning the flames. To pretend that his tweet went out in a vacuum, and that it had no effect on the pile-on in session, is intelligence-insulting.

Well, if we're going to consider context, we should also consider the context that he very much dislikes people who he feels exploit their trolls. He has expounded upon this numerous times in numerous settings, and has laid out his reasoning why he dislikes it.

So I read his tweet as just a brusque restatement of this opinion. His trolling was largely separate.

I don't think we can say one narrative is more legitimate than the other without being inside Milo's head, which is why I'd suggest people stop using the hate mail tweet as evidence for his trolling. Just use the actual trollish stuff.

Of course he dislikes people who turn being trolled to their advantage. He's a huge troll, and hates it when this backfires.

As we can't go inside Milo's head, we can only go by his previous actions, which have involved significant amounts of trolling, and have resulted in two previous suspensions from the service.

[Benuty]

There is a season for everything including death.

Tis the season to drink bleach.

Also to be merry for the end is nigh.

[Nocturnalis]

So death threats against cops and racial supremacy shit is okay on Twitter, but saying mean things about some shitty actress from some shitty Ghostbusters reboot ain't? I get it, Twitter is a private company and can ban whomever they please from their site, but some consistency would be nice.

Did anyone actually link the tweets in question in this thread? Ain't nothing in the link in the OP.

Thank hell I've not wasted time with that site.

[Spiffier]

The attacks on Leslie Jones were absolutely horrendous, it makes sense that he'd be banned if he were involved.

[Nerotysia]

Of course he dislikes people who turn being trolled to their advantage. He's a huge troll, and hates it when this backfires.

Or he finds it slimy and disingenuous, as I often do.

As we can't go inside Milo's head, we can only go by his previous actions, which have involved significant amounts of trolling, and have resulted in two previous suspensions from the service.

And also numerous times in which he's talked on and on about why he hates people who exploit trolls.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Of course he dislikes people who turn being trolled to their advantage. He's a huge troll, and hates it when this backfires.

Or he finds it slimy and disingenuous, as I often do.

As we can't go inside Milo's head, we can only go by his previous actions, which have involved significant amounts of trolling, and have resulted in two previous suspensions from the service.

And also numerous times in which he's talked on and on about why he hates people who exploit trolls.

He's a bully, and doesn't like it when people point that out. That's the long and the short of it. If trolls don't want it turned around on them, then maybe they shouldn't be trolling in the first place. Not everyone will just shut up and take it. Sometimes, people expose the hatred, and if they can't handle their tweets being held up to the harsh, unforgiving light of day, then maybe they shouldn't send them in the first place.

[Dremovia]

Being ban for speaking your mind on obvious BS is fascist crap. Lets have the infamous SS tell us, or better yet the U.S. Bully everyone to beleive in cnn documented propaganda?!?!? Freedom of speach is the last draw with me and many around the world. Many good service men who have learned the truth on a battlefield know this. But having the guts to face a disrepectful society can be overwhelming. The forgotten bible left on a bookshelf covered in cobwebs is the true and only way to all. twitter is just a passing illusion like facebook or any other pokeman go app of death.
Study of too much,where is the mind? Where is the flesh?

[Shonburg]

no one is making christian priests marry gays. No one.

http://eaglerising.com/6712/government- ... -marriage/

Yeah, not marrying gays is a violation of their civil rights.

And yet Christian churches are well with in their right to refuse marry gays, the Christian religion often looks down apon Gays and usually dont agree with gay marriage. So if you force churches to marry gays it would be considered a violation of the constitution(Freedom of religion) which would be a good defense for the churches

The constitution does not apply in England, or Denmark for that matter. Second, both England and Denmark have state religions and state owned churches. The Queen of England is the head of state and the head of the Church of England.

[Liriena]

Being ban for speaking your mind on obvious BS is fascist crap. Lets have the infamous SS tell us, or better yet the U.S. Bully everyone to beleive in cnn documented propaganda?!?!? Freedom of speach is the last draw with me and many around the world. Many good service men who have learned the truth on a battlefield know this. But having the guts to face a disrepectful society can be overwhelming. The forgotten bible left on a bookshelf covered in cobwebs is the true and only way to all. twitter is just a passing illusion like facebook or any other pokeman go app of death.
Study of too much,where is the mind? Where is the flesh?

...I'm sorry, what?

[Apollinis]

Being ban for speaking your mind on obvious BS is fascist crap. Lets have the infamous SS tell us, or better yet the U.S. Bully everyone to beleive in cnn documented propaganda?!?!? Freedom of speach is the last draw with me and many around the world. Many good service men who have learned the truth on a battlefield know this. But having the guts to face a disrepectful society can be overwhelming. The forgotten bible left on a bookshelf covered in cobwebs is the true and only way to all. twitter is just a passing illusion like facebook or any other pokeman go app of death.
Study of too much,where is the mind? Where is the flesh?

One of the great tragedies of the Internet is the spread of the belief that simply because it's possible for you to speak your mind on a topic, you should.

[Conserative Morality]

Why is it that the biggest douchebags are also the biggest whiners?

[Eisarn-Ara]

To Milo Yiannopoulos: Good Riddence.

Also, to the countless people crying about Free Speech: Twitter is a private service and can enforce its rules as it wants. Considering he broke those rules, you'd be asking for 'special priviledges' for Conservatives if you said Twitter should reinstate him.

Man, Arabic twitter spewing accolades for Terrorists and sympathies for suicide bombers doesn't count as hate speech?

GG no Re

[Spiffier]

The Queen of England is the head of state and the head of the Church of England.

That's strictly on paper. The last time the monarch tried to exercise any serious authority over the Church by putting rails on the alters, he was beheaded for it.