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Postby Liriena » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:37 am

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Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Only a fraction of what I believe he deserves.

He deserves a place in high politics, IMHO.

No, thanks. Whiny little divas who love to bully others with impunity, and who have made a career out of it, don't deserve a place in any nation's political system.
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Chestaan wrote:
Since when is calling someone fat and ugly ideological speech?

Since the alt-right became a thing.


If the Christian alt-right ever managed to seize complete power in the United States and started overturning LGBT rights by the truckload Yiannopoulous would be the figurehead overseer declaring that nothing is wrong while LGBTs are hauled off to Japanese internment camps repurposed for gay conversion therapy.
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I've lasted long enough without reading any of those.
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Postby Khadgar » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:38 am

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Coraspia wrote:He deserves a place in high politics, IMHO.

No, thanks. Whiny little divas who love to bully others with impunity, and who have made a career out of it, don't deserve a place in any nation's political system.


And yet one was nominated anyway here in the good old USA.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:38 am

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Imperializt Russia wrote:The Russian government controls the largest state in the world by land area, and its actions have real, harmful consequences. Thousands dead in Ukraine and Syria, pointedly, for examples over the last couple years.

We're talking about Twitter, mate.


Which is one of the corporations controlling a larger and larger amount of the public square for discussion and what is acceptable there.
It has real consequences too.

Besides which, the comparison was to highlight the disingenuous nature of these kind of rules and prejudiced enforcement. But you knew that.

There are no real consequences to Twitter banning Milo.

Because he still has all the platforms he wants. Even he says it doesn't fucking matter.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:39 am

Gauthier wrote:
Liriena wrote:Since the alt-right became a thing.


If the Christian alt-right ever managed to seize complete power in the United States and started overturning LGBT rights by the truckload Yiannopoulous would be the figurehead overseer declaring that nothing is wrong while LGBTs are hauled off to Japanese internment camps repurposed for gay conversion therapy.

And his argument would probably be "Muslims are throwing LGBT+ people off buildings! You should be grateful to our alpha male overlords for not doing that!"
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Postby Yorkers » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:40 am

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Yorkers wrote:Doesn't a large, powerful corporation like Twitter suppressing certain ideological speech amount to institutional oppression like leftists always whine about? Sure it's not codified into law nor being done by a government, but the potential for powerful corporations to censor thought is something leftists and even libertarians have been worried about for a very long time.

But I guess now it's okay because Leslie Jones is a beautiful black woman and Milo is that racist f****t.


Since when is calling someone fat and ugly ideological speech?


People have said he was banned for his "past abuses", which makes this sound like a rather blanket ban. Given that other celebrities pundits have also made crass statements, such as Bill Maher's words on Trump's kids, without punishment; one can only suspect that this is ideological.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:40 am

Hey, let's ban conservatives, but not ISIS from our platform!

Seriously though, they're a privatized corporation and they can do whatever the fuck they want; I'm just glad I've stopped subscribing to their platform a long time ago. In my own opinion, there's nothing anyone can do, but it's hilarious to see how badly the political left wants to silence its critics.
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Postby Liriena » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:41 am

Khadgar wrote:
Liriena wrote:No, thanks. Whiny little divas who love to bully others with impunity, and who have made a career out of it, don't deserve a place in any nation's political system.


And yet one was nominated anyway here in the good old USA.

Nah. Trump is not a diva. He's a brat.
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Postby Alvecia » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:42 am

Transoxthraxia wrote:Hey, let's ban conservatives, but not ISIS from our platform!

Seriously though, they're a privatized corporation and they can do whatever the fuck they want; I'm just glad I've stopped subscribing to their platform a long time ago. In my own opinion, there's nothing anyone can do, but it's hilarious to see how badly the political left wants to silence its critics.

They banned loads of ISIS members.....
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Transoxthraxia wrote:Hey, let's ban conservatives, but not ISIS from our platform!

Seriously though, they're a privatized corporation and they can do whatever the fuck they want; I'm just glad I've stopped subscribing to their platform a long time ago. In my own opinion, there's nothing anyone can do, but it's hilarious to see how badly the political left wants to silence its critics.


Banning someone for repeated flagrant rules infractions is Silencing Critics. You read it here folks.
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Postby Yorkers » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:42 am

Liriena wrote:
Chestaan wrote:
Since when is calling someone fat and ugly ideological speech?

Since the alt-right became a thing.


Are you that naive to think that insulting people for their appearance did not exist before the alt. right?

Aren't leftists the ones who come up incredibly sophomoric insults about people?

"hurr his real name is Drumpf that proves him wrong about everything and Drumpf sounds like a fart joke ahaha im so clever"
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Postby Katganistan » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:43 am

Great Germania Reich wrote:I don't like him but he shouldn't have been banned. Then of course here come the Marxists and liberals screeching into the thread to defend silencing anyone of a different political belief because for them it's "freedom for me but no freedom for you," and "do as I say not as I do," and "your rights end where my feelings begin."

I'm sure if Milo was actually a liberal homosexual who got banned for his political beliefs it would be the opposite here where the Marxists and liberals would instead be screaming for justice for silencing those of a different political belief. Hypocrisy is a wonderful thing.

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What political belief exactly was being nurtured by calling her a gorilla? a male? fat?
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Gauthier wrote:
Liriena wrote:Since the alt-right became a thing.


If the Christian alt-right ever managed to seize complete power in the United States and started overturning LGBT rights by the truckload Yiannopoulous would be the figurehead overseer declaring that nothing is wrong while LGBTs are hauled off to Japanese internment camps repurposed for gay conversion therapy.


Hey! Earth to you! 2004 was 12 years ago!

I thought liberals stopped cowering in fear at the thought of the US becoming a Christian theocracy many years ago. If you really believe such delusions, I wonder how you make it through life with such paranoia.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:45 am

Alvecia wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:Hey, let's ban conservatives, but not ISIS from our platform!

Seriously though, they're a privatized corporation and they can do whatever the fuck they want; I'm just glad I've stopped subscribing to their platform a long time ago. In my own opinion, there's nothing anyone can do, but it's hilarious to see how badly the political left wants to silence its critics.

They banned loads of ISIS members.....

Certainly; but yet somehow more and more ISIS material keeps getting circulated on their platform.

Gauthier wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:Hey, let's ban conservatives, but not ISIS from our platform!

Seriously though, they're a privatized corporation and they can do whatever the fuck they want; I'm just glad I've stopped subscribing to their platform a long time ago. In my own opinion, there's nothing anyone can do, but it's hilarious to see how badly the political left wants to silence its critics.


Banning someone for repeated flagrant rules infractions is Silencing Critics. You read it here folks.

What about leftists who also repeatedly break twitter rules? Bill Maher is the first to come to mind, though there's probably dozens others, including all of those intolerable far-left feminists who scream and berate all those who so much as look at them oddly.
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Yorkers wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
If the Christian alt-right ever managed to seize complete power in the United States and started overturning LGBT rights by the truckload Yiannopoulous would be the figurehead overseer declaring that nothing is wrong while LGBTs are hauled off to Japanese internment camps repurposed for gay conversion therapy.


Hey! Earth to you! 2004 was 12 years ago!

I thought liberals stopped cowering in fear at the thought of the US becoming a Christian theocracy many years ago. If you really believe such delusions, I wonder how you make it through life with such paranoia.

Someone hasn't looked at Mike Pence's record, methinks.
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Postby Alvecia » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:45 am

Yorkers wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
If the Christian alt-right ever managed to seize complete power in the United States and started overturning LGBT rights by the truckload Yiannopoulous would be the figurehead overseer declaring that nothing is wrong while LGBTs are hauled off to Japanese internment camps repurposed for gay conversion therapy.


Hey! Earth to you! 2004 was 12 years ago!

I thought liberals stopped cowering in fear at the thought of the US becoming a Christian theocracy many years ago. If you really believe such delusions, I wonder how you make it through life with such paranoia.

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Alvecia wrote:They banned loads of ISIS members.....

Certainly; but yet somehow more and more ISIS material keeps getting circulated on their platform.

Because all they need to do is put "Are you a supporter of ISIS? Yes/No" on the sign up form and problem solved.
Come on, you should know better than that.
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Liriena wrote:
Yorkers wrote:
Hey! Earth to you! 2004 was 12 years ago!

I thought liberals stopped cowering in fear at the thought of the US becoming a Christian theocracy many years ago. If you really believe such delusions, I wonder how you make it through life with such paranoia.

Someone hasn't looked at Mike Pence's record, methinks.


And what power would he have to do any of that as vice-president?

America really couldn't give two shits about gay people. We're more focused on other things, like building the great, beautiful wall.
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Yorkers wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
If the Christian alt-right ever managed to seize complete power in the United States and started overturning LGBT rights by the truckload Yiannopoulous would be the figurehead overseer declaring that nothing is wrong while LGBTs are hauled off to Japanese internment camps repurposed for gay conversion therapy.


Hey! Earth to you! 2004 was 12 years ago!

I thought liberals stopped cowering in fear at the thought of the US becoming a Christian theocracy many years ago. If you really believe such delusions, I wonder how you make it through life with such paranoia.


Someone hasn't been paying attention to the Republican party this year.

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Alvecia wrote:
Yorkers wrote:
Hey! Earth to you! 2004 was 12 years ago!

I thought liberals stopped cowering in fear at the thought of the US becoming a Christian theocracy many years ago. If you really believe such delusions, I wonder how you make it through life with such paranoia.

GOP Platform Subcommittee Passes Resolution Calling for Bible to Be Taught as American History


Are there sources here that aren't left-wing echo chambers or Twitter?
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Liriena wrote:Someone hasn't looked at Mike Pence's record, methinks.


And what power would he have to do any of that as vice-president?

America really couldn't give two shits about gay people. We're more focused on other things, like building the great, beautiful wall.


America may not care (many Americans totally do though), but the GOP sure as fuck does.

http://time.com/4405018/gop-platform-lgbt-issues/

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Yorkers wrote:
Liriena wrote:Since the alt-right became a thing.


Are you that naive to think that insulting people for their appearance did not exist before the alt. right?

No. But I do believe that the alt-right normalized verbal abuse in political discourse, beyond the realm of mere internet banter.

Yorkers wrote:Aren't leftists the ones who come up incredibly sophomoric insults about people?

"hurr his real name is Drumpf that proves him wrong about everything and Drumpf sounds like a fart joke ahaha im so clever"

First of all, #notallleftists

Second of all, bad tu quoque, since you had people flinging all manner of insults at Democratic, liberal and leftist figures long before Donald J. Trump proclaimed himself King in the Iron Throne. Starting with all the racism against President Obama, which Trump helped encourage and perpetuate with his birther nonsense.
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Postby Transoxthraxia » Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:50 am

Alvecia wrote:
Transoxthraxia wrote:Certainly; but yet somehow more and more ISIS material keeps getting circulated on their platform.

Because all they need to do is put "Are you a supporter of ISIS? Yes/No" on the sign up form and problem solved.
Come on, you should know better than that.

Scathing, salty sarcasm aside, all they have to do is better moderate their servers.
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"The King of Kings; this mighty City shows
"The wonders of my hand." The City's gone,
Nought but the Leg remaining to disclose
The site of this forgotten Babylon.

We wonder, and some Hunter may express
Wonder like ours, when thro' the wilderness
Where London stood, holding the Wolf in chace,
He meets some fragment huge, and stops to guess
What powerful but unrecorded race
Once dwelt in that annihilated place.
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