Milo Yiannopoulos banned from Twitter.

[Vassenor]

Right wingers seem to miss that point, with incidents like the outrage over the temporary cancellation of Duck Dynasty.

Like religious freedom it only applies to those who agree. If a company opts to not host speech I agree with then clearly their right to free speech doesn't exist.

Yeah. Religious freedom only applies when it benefits Christianity and Free Speech is only there to protect the Right Wing.

[The Black Forrest]

Is it?

It would appear so yes.

Ok? I would have banned him too.

[Ostroeuropa]

It would appear so yes.

Ok? I would have banned him too.

Would you have banned her?

[Kelinfort]

Originally it was the SJW's that were propagating at a frightening rate. Special snowflakes on Tumblr and a few on other sites that were plain annoying and rude at times. Soon enough, this small minority was raging across the web.

Along comes the altright, which started with a tiny voice that now has exceeded the SJW's in their magnified voice. What originally emerged as a counter movement to them has now itself emerged as an annoying and frankly unfunny counter example.

Long story short, both get "triggered" when things don't go their way.

[Midwestern Commonwealth]

Its fine for Twitter to ban Milo. As much as I disagree with them, as a private service, they are allowed to do so. As bakers should be able to do with baking for a gay wedding, or a muslims should for making a pig cake, etc. However, as a conservative, I'd like to see Twitter stop being hypocritical and apply their rules to leftist racists and feminists. The "#killallmen", and "white privilege", and "all men are pigs" feminists are literally sexist misandrists and racists. So are BLM, they say and chant that they want to kill cops, and I see black people wanting to kill cops on Facebook all the time. However, Facebook doesn't ban them, even though what they are saying is a violation of "hate speech" code in the site. (hint hate speech doesn't exist). While I could care less about that they said it, it's about the meaning and intent behind it. Do I believe that all black people want to kill cops and whites? No, but I do think hate groups such as black lives matter and the black panthers, further radicalize the black youth and general population. They drive a wedge in race relations, and then we are two steps closer to a race war, where whites might not be so merciful. I hope it never comes to that, I like our peace, and our progress we have achieved. They are the KKK of our time. I believe in free speech, but inciting violence is the only thing that is not covered under free speech according to supreme court rulings and the constitution. Dr. King would be spinning in his grave in response to the evil SJWs. The spinning would generate enough power to generate electricity for half of Africa.

By the way, no one cares about a famous person's feelings. No one cares about my feelings, no one cares about your feelings, no one cares about anyone's feelings. We need to end feminism, social justice (read, social vigilantism) and globalism, so can ensure that west's future is secured.

[Kelinfort]

Its fine for Twitter to ban Milo. As much as I disagree with them, as a private service, they are allowed to do so. As bakers should be able to do with baking for a gay wedding, or a muslims should for making a pig cake, etc. However, as a conservative, I'd like to see Twitter stop being hypocritical and apply their rules to leftist racists and feminists. The "#killallmen", and "white privilege", and "all men are pigs" feminists are literally sexist misandrists and racists. So are BLM, they say and chant that they want to kill cops, and I see black people wanting to kill cops on Facebook all the time. However, Facebook doesn't ban them, even though what they are saying is a violation of "hate speech" code in the site. (hint hate speech doesn't exist). While I could care less about that they said it, it's about the meaning and intent behind it. Do I believe that all black people want to kill cops and whites? No, but I do think hate groups such as black lives matter and the black panthers, further radicalize the black youth and general population. They drive a wedge in race relations, and then we are two steps closer to a race war, where whites might not be so merciful. I hope it never comes to that, I like our peace, and our progress we have achieved. They are the KKK of our time. I believe in free speech, but inciting violence is the only thing that is not covered under free speech according to supreme court rulings and the constitution. Dr. King would be spinning in his grave in response to the evil SJWs. The spinning would generate enough power to generate electricity for half of Africa.

By the way, no one cares about a famous person's feelings. No one cares about my feelings, no one cares about your feelings, no one cares about anyone's feelings. We need to end feminism, social justice (read, social vigilantism) and globalism, so can ensure that west's future is secured.

Edgy alt right copy pasta.

Yawn. Read it a million times, my friend. It doesn't make you the newest candidate for philosopher King.

[Khadgar]

Its fine for Twitter to ban Milo. As much as I disagree with them, as a private service, they are allowed to do so. As bakers should be able to do with baking for a gay wedding, or a muslims should for making a pig cake, etc. However, as a conservative, I'd like to see Twitter stop being hypocritical and apply their rules to leftist racists and feminists. The "#killallmen", and "white privilege", and "all men are pigs" feminists are literally sexist misandrists and racists. So are BLM, they say and chant that they want to kill cops, and I see black people wanting to kill cops on Facebook all the time. However, Facebook doesn't ban them, even though what they are saying is a violation of "hate speech" code in the site. (hint hate speech doesn't exist). While I could care less about that they said it, it's about the meaning and intent behind it. Do I believe that all black people want to kill cops and whites? No, but I do think hate groups such as black lives matter and the black panthers, further radicalize the black youth and general population. They drive a wedge in race relations, and then we are two steps closer to a race war, where whites might not be so merciful. I hope it never comes to that, I like our peace, and our progress we have achieved. They are the KKK of our time. I believe in free speech, but inciting violence is the only thing that is not covered under free speech according to supreme court rulings and the constitution. Dr. King would be spinning in his grave in response to the evil SJWs. The spinning would generate enough power to generate electricity for half of Africa.

By the way, no one cares about a famous person's feelings. No one cares about my feelings, no one cares about your feelings, no one cares about anyone's feelings. We need to end feminism, social justice (read, social vigilantism) and globalism, so can ensure that west's future is secured.

Well you're not wrong about that.

[Apollinis]

Originally it was the SJW's that were propagating at a frightening rate. Special snowflakes on Tumblr and a few on other sites that were plain annoying and rude at times. Soon enough, this small minority was raging across the web.

Along comes the altright, which started with a tiny voice that now has exceeded the SJW's in their magnified voice. What originally emerged as a counter movement to them has now itself emerged as an annoying and frankly unfunny counter example.

Long story short, both get "triggered" when things don't go their way.

The delusion of smug centrism that it's somehow above left-right bickering is quite tragic but vaguely entertaining to observe.

[Kelinfort]

Originally it was the SJW's that were propagating at a frightening rate. Special snowflakes on Tumblr and a few on other sites that were plain annoying and rude at times. Soon enough, this small minority was raging across the web.

Along comes the altright, which started with a tiny voice that now has exceeded the SJW's in their magnified voice. What originally emerged as a counter movement to them has now itself emerged as an annoying and frankly unfunny counter example.

Long story short, both get "triggered" when things don't go their way.

The delusion of smug centrism that it's somehow above left-right bickering is quite tragic but vaguely entertaining to observe.

I don't blame the right or left for this, nor do I have the moral high ground. I'm explaining my disdain for two internet movements.

If you want, I can take out a cigar and cognac, and act smug.

[Wolfmanne2]

Originally it was the SJW's that were propagating at a frightening rate. Special snowflakes on Tumblr and a few on other sites that were plain annoying and rude at times. Soon enough, this small minority was raging across the web.

Along comes the altright, which started with a tiny voice that now has exceeded the SJW's in their magnified voice. What originally emerged as a counter movement to them has now itself emerged as an annoying and frankly unfunny counter example.

Long story short, both get "triggered" when things don't go their way.

The delusion of smug centrism that it's somehow above left-right bickering is quite tragic but vaguely entertaining to observe.

Delusion? Personally I'm in a makeshift bunker sipping some glasses of prosecco and smoking my way through a whole load of B&H Golds waiting for the day when the populist right and left destroy each other. Than myself, along with establishmentarians left, right and centre, will come out and bright forth a brave new world of progressive social change... but nothing too hasty.

[Katganistan]

Freedom of speech does not mean freedom of consequence.

I just got a call for Trigglypuff and she said that she should be allowed to scream at Milo when he's on campus without being ejected by security. "This is freedom of speech", she said

And was she ejected by campus security? They certainly had the right.

[Nariterrr]

I just got a call for Trigglypuff and she said that she should be allowed to scream at Milo when he's on campus without being ejected by security. "This is freedom of speech", she said

And was she ejected by campus security? They certainly had the right.

Yeah, she was being disruptive, just like our friend Milo.

[Katganistan]

Very poor choice to censor him. I don't really agree with him. At all.

But mainstream social media sites shouldn't censor speech like that. It's pretty mild stuff.

There are black and white Supremacist twitter pages advocating "killing whitey" or "stomping the niggers" that are still around apparently unregulated.

Hell, I used to get death threats on there and the people got away scot free.

this is what lands him in trouble? This is barely anything!

Of course. Because a celebrity with prior TOS violations with a large following of fans who leaped on the bandwagon of being abusive to her saying it carries the same weight as some non-celebrity with no following saying it.

Logic?

*sigh* The Suppressiing of free speech is the first step towards a dictatorship.

"People who sacrifice freedoms for security deserve nither." -Benjamin Franklin

The government owns Twitter?

Of course. You didn't know that the Leftist Jewluminati Lizardmen are behind the persecution of Alt-Right because they despise their family values of abusing people for being NOT Alt-Right?

Silly you.

[Khadgar]

The government owns Twitter?

Of course. You didn't know that the Leftist Jewluminati Lizardmen are behind the persecution of Alt-Right because they despise their family values of abusing people for being NOT Alt-Right?

Silly you.

Ironically demanding twitter host speech they disagree with is a violation of it's owner's freedom of speech, yet no one ever thinks of that.

[Gauthier]

Of course. You didn't know that the Leftist Jewluminati Lizardmen are behind the persecution of Alt-Right because they despise their family values of abusing people for being NOT Alt-Right?

Silly you.

Ironically demanding twitter host speech they disagree with is a violation of it's owner's freedom of speech, yet no one ever thinks of that.

Quite a few right wingers think suppressing the rights of others is Freedom of Something.

Make Twitter host a flagrant rulebreaker? Freedom of Speech.
Let stores deny service to LGBT couples? Freedom of Religion.

And so on.

[Khadgar]

Ironically demanding twitter host speech they disagree with is a violation of it's owner's freedom of speech, yet no one ever thinks of that.

Quite a few right wingers think suppressing the rights of others is Freedom of Something.

Make Twitter host a flagrant rulebreaker? Freedom of Speech.
Let stores deny service to LGBT couples? Freedom of Religion.

And so on.

Freedom to agree with me.

[Katganistan]

If I called for the murder and execution of those who disagreed with me on this forum I suspect I would not be on this forum long.

You suspect correctly. It's almost as if that sort of this is spelled out in our TOS, FAQ and The One Stop Rules Shop.

[Gauthier]

If I called for the murder and execution of those who disagreed with me on this forum I suspect I would not be on this forum long.

You suspect correctly. It's almost as if that sort of this is spelled out in our TOS, FAQ and The One Stop Rules Shop.

And this news incident is like people on NSG demanding that a DoS be reinstated because Freedom of Speech.

[Yorkers]

Doesn't a large, powerful corporation like Twitter suppressing certain ideological speech amount to institutional oppression like leftists always whine about? Sure it's not codified into law nor being done by a government, but the potential for powerful corporations to censor thought is something leftists and even libertarians have been worried about for a very long time.

But I guess now it's okay because Leslie Jones is a beautiful black woman and Milo is that racist f****t.

[Chestaan]

Doesn't a large, powerful corporation like Twitter suppressing certain ideological speech amount to institutional oppression like leftists always whine about? Sure it's not codified into law nor being done by a government, but the potential for powerful corporations to censor thought is something leftists and even libertarians have been worried about for a very long time.

But I guess now it's okay because Leslie Jones is a beautiful black woman and Milo is that racist f****t.

Since when is calling someone fat and ugly ideological speech?

[Liriena]

Yes, he's been suspended for doing similar things in the past, which is likely why he lost his account this time

If you see no difference between political activism (and this was not political activism) and personal insult, then I'm not sure how to continue this conversation. Let me try this: If he still had his account, and people were sending him messages disagreeing with positions that he'd taken, that would be within the realm of normal discourse. If you get enormous numbers of users calling him "faggot", calling him a woman due to his sexuality, or otherwise engaging in simple trolling, then that's a different matter. You've been here a while now. You know the difference. The standards are actually looser over at Twitter, and he still couldn't follow some basic rules of behavior.

He'd violated the terms of service in the past. He'd mocked her appearance on Twitter and called her a man in the past. There was a pattern of trolling her. When the onslaught of racist tweets against her began, he could have kept his mouth shut and stayed out of it, knowing that he had two suspensions on record. He could have even gently dissuaded his followers from engaging in the more vicious forms of attack, though that's obviously not in his character, and would be too much to expect. What he did not have to do was mock her for reacting negatively and with hurt towards the barrage of racist images, comments on her personal appearance, intentional misgendering of her as a man, and other abuse, nor (secondarily) did he have to implicitly encourage further abuse by doing so. At that point, he became a part of the problem, and with his record, he got axed along with a number of other people.

If abuse is too much for you to handle, the internet is not the best place for you. We shouldn't be clamping down on free speech because people get their feelings hurt.

Ah, yes. There's nothing like blaming bullying victims for not letting their bullies be, rather than... you know... actually chiding the bullies for bullying them in the first place.

[Liriena]

Very poor choice to censor him. I don't really agree with him. At all.

But mainstream social media sites shouldn't censor speech like that. It's pretty mild stuff.

There are black and white Supremacist twitter pages advocating "killing whitey" or "stomping the niggers" that are still around apparently unregulated.

Hell, I used to get death threats on there and the people got away scot free.

this is what lands him in trouble? This is barely anything!

Of course. Because a celebrity with a large following of fans who leaped on the bandwagon of being abusive to her saying it carries the same weight as some non-celebrity with no following saying it.

Logic?

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[Khadgar]

Doesn't a large, powerful corporation like Twitter suppressing certain ideological speech amount to institutional oppression like leftists always whine about? Sure it's not codified into law nor being done by a government, but the potential for powerful corporations to censor thought is something leftists and even libertarians have been worried about for a very long time.

But I guess now it's okay because Leslie Jones is a beautiful black woman and Milo is that racist f****t.

Since when is calling someone fat and ugly ideological speech?

When they're fat and ugly obviously. Do try to keep up.

[Alvecia]

Ideally corroborating stories from both sides.
I also don't need to disprove anything because there is nothing you have proven. You've asserted something is true but you haven't backed it up with any evidence.
You made the positive claim, the burden of proof is on you and so far you have not done so. In fact, so far you've actively withheld your supposed proof.
As far as triviality goes, you've already admitted you have sources ready and raring to go, it should be trivially simple to post them here.

That screenshot is evidence.

"This is all of" is exactly the same claim as "there are no more."

Denying that is the positive claim of "There are more."
Which is what would require further evidence.

It is evidence of some tweets. It does nothing to evidence whether or not there are more. Your claim was "this is all of them" not "these are some of them". Your evidence does not support your claim.

[Liriena]

Doesn't a large, powerful corporation like Twitter suppressing certain ideological speech amount to institutional oppression like leftists always whine about? Sure it's not codified into law nor being done by a government, but the potential for powerful corporations to censor thought is something leftists and even libertarians have been worried about for a very long time.

But I guess now it's okay because Leslie Jones is a beautiful black woman and Milo is that racist f****t.

Since when is calling someone fat and ugly ideological speech?

Since the alt-right became a thing.