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Who Do You Support in the 2016 Election?

Donald J. Trump (Republican)
282
29%
Hillary Rodham Clinton (Democrat)
331
34%
Gary Johnson (Libertarian)
139
14%
Jill Stein (Green)
113
12%
Undecided
48
5%
Other
64
7%
 
Total votes : 977

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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:22 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Oh god it's Ryan!

What he's thinking: "I coulda been VP. Fuckin' Romney."

Im sure he didn't want it anyways
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:24 pm

Geilinor wrote:
Corrian wrote:"We gave you a majority to be proud of"

No you didn't. You gave us a gridlocked piece of shit government.

Oh look, and now they're also praising NOT DOING THEIR JOB. Yay! So great, you can't do your job!

Trump fans don't even like McConnell, IIRC.


Nobody likes him.
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Eol Sha
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Postby Eol Sha » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:25 pm

Ryan gives a good speech.
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:25 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Geilinor wrote:Trump fans don't even like McConnell, IIRC.


Nobody likes him.

I'm sure his mamma still loves him
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>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
>Xovland: I keep getting ads for printer ink. Sometimes, when you get that feeling down there, you have to look at some steamy printer pictures.
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Postby Unified Governments » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:25 pm

This is too rich. The media is giving Trump more free air time and playing his wife's speech for free. Does no one think Melania Trump's speech writers couldn't come up with their own speech? They did this on purpose and naturally it's working. Trump speaks about this in his book. Insert a story into the media and get them to play it over and over.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:26 pm

Eol Sha wrote:Ryan gives a good speech.

Is he still going at it?
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>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
>Xovland: I keep getting ads for printer ink. Sometimes, when you get that feeling down there, you have to look at some steamy printer pictures.
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Postby Viadora » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:26 pm

Trump's campaign promises, as repeated in the national convention: "I will destroy ISIS (no specifics, imma just kill ISIS), lawandorderlawandorderlwandorder, some other things that I maybe will do but IDK, make america great again"
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Postby Corrian » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:26 pm

Eol Sha wrote:Ryan gives a good speech.

It's too normal that I zoned it out.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:26 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Nobody likes him.

I'm sure his mamma still loves him


Ehhhhhhh, maybe.

Thermodolia wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:Ryan gives a good speech.

Is he still going at it?


He is, and it's pretty good.
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Postby Eol Sha » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:27 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:Ryan gives a good speech.

Is he still going at it?

Yes.

I'd be tempted to vote for him if he wasn't wrong on the policy.
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You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

"What's the number one method of achieving civil rights in America? Don't scare the white folks." ~ Eol Sha

Praise be to C-SPAN - Democrats Should Listen to Sanders - How I Voted on November 8, 2016 - Trump's Foreign Policy: Do Stupid Shit - Trump's Clock is Ticking

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Postby Eol Sha » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:27 pm

Corrian wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:Ryan gives a good speech.

It's too normal that I zoned it out.

Probably why the audience is more or less silent.
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

"What's the number one method of achieving civil rights in America? Don't scare the white folks." ~ Eol Sha

Praise be to C-SPAN - Democrats Should Listen to Sanders - How I Voted on November 8, 2016 - Trump's Foreign Policy: Do Stupid Shit - Trump's Clock is Ticking

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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:28 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Corrian wrote:It's too normal that I zoned it out.

Probably why the audience is more or less silent.


Someone needs to throw a steel chair or something. That'll liven things up.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:28 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I'm sure his mamma still loves him


Ehhhhhhh, maybe.

Thermodolia wrote:Is he still going at it?


He is, and it's pretty good.

I zoned out.
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I'm agent #69 in the Gaystapo!
>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
>Xovland: I keep getting ads for printer ink. Sometimes, when you get that feeling down there, you have to look at some steamy printer pictures.
Click for Da Funies

RIP Dya

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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:29 pm

Lancaster of Wessex wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:Probably why the audience is more or less silent.


Someone needs to throw a steel chair or something. That'll liven things up.

Do we really want the Republican Convention to turn into the WWE?
Male, State Socialist, Cultural Nationalist, Welfare Chauvinist lives somewhere in AZ I'm GAY! Disabled US Military Veteran
I'm agent #69 in the Gaystapo!
>The Sons of Adam: I'd crown myself monarch... cuz why not?
>>Dumb Ideologies: Why not turn yourself into a penguin and build an igloo at the centre of the Earth?
>Xovland: I keep getting ads for printer ink. Sometimes, when you get that feeling down there, you have to look at some steamy printer pictures.
Click for Da Funies

RIP Dya

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Eol Sha
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Postby Eol Sha » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:30 pm

Lancaster of Wessex wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:Probably why the audience is more or less silent.


Someone needs to throw a steel chair or something. That'll liven things up.

:lol2:
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

"What's the number one method of achieving civil rights in America? Don't scare the white folks." ~ Eol Sha

Praise be to C-SPAN - Democrats Should Listen to Sanders - How I Voted on November 8, 2016 - Trump's Foreign Policy: Do Stupid Shit - Trump's Clock is Ticking

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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:30 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Lancaster of Wessex wrote:
Someone needs to throw a steel chair or something. That'll liven things up.

Do we really want the Republican Convention to turn into the WWE?


You mean it's not already? I mean it's highly scripted and it's not very believable.
(Tongue in cheek, obviously.)
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Postby Vettrera » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:30 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Lancaster of Wessex wrote:
Someone needs to throw a steel chair or something. That'll liven things up.

Do we really want the Republican Convention to turn into the WWE?

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Postby Valrifell » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:31 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Lancaster of Wessex wrote:
Someone needs to throw a steel chair or something. That'll liven things up.

Do we really want the Republican Convention to turn into the WWE?


Yes
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Postby Eol Sha » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:32 pm

Lancaster of Wessex wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Do we really want the Republican Convention to turn into the WWE?


You mean it's not already? I mean it's highly scripted and it's not very believable.
(Tongue in cheek, obviously.)

I haven't seen any of the RNC conventions before, but is this convention really that scripted?
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

"What's the number one method of achieving civil rights in America? Don't scare the white folks." ~ Eol Sha

Praise be to C-SPAN - Democrats Should Listen to Sanders - How I Voted on November 8, 2016 - Trump's Foreign Policy: Do Stupid Shit - Trump's Clock is Ticking

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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:33 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Lancaster of Wessex wrote:
You mean it's not already? I mean it's highly scripted and it's not very believable.
(Tongue in cheek, obviously.)

I haven't seen any of the RNC conventions before, but is this convention really that scripted?


Well, sure. Every convention pretty much is, unless it's contested.
That is, unless you believe in the "a cadre of shady individuals and businesses control the world and the outcome of every US election is pre-ordained" theory...
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:34 pm

Lancaster of Wessex wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:I haven't seen any of the RNC conventions before, but is this convention really that scripted?


Well, sure. Every convention pretty much is, unless it's contested.
That is, unless you believe in the "a cadre of shady individuals and businesses control the world and the outcome of every US election is pre-ordained" theory...


Our convention wasn't scripted at all :p
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Postby Eol Sha » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:34 pm

Lancaster of Wessex wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:I haven't seen any of the RNC conventions before, but is this convention really that scripted?


Well, sure. Every convention pretty much is, unless it's contested.
That is, unless you believe in the "a cadre of shady individuals and businesses control the world and the outcome of every US election is pre-ordained" theory...

I mean, all the delegate shenanigans...

When has that happened before?
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

"What's the number one method of achieving civil rights in America? Don't scare the white folks." ~ Eol Sha

Praise be to C-SPAN - Democrats Should Listen to Sanders - How I Voted on November 8, 2016 - Trump's Foreign Policy: Do Stupid Shit - Trump's Clock is Ticking

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Postby Eol Sha » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:35 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Lancaster of Wessex wrote:
Well, sure. Every convention pretty much is, unless it's contested.
That is, unless you believe in the "a cadre of shady individuals and businesses control the world and the outcome of every US election is pre-ordained" theory...


Our convention wasn't scripted at all :p

Didn't a guy get naked at the Libertarian convention?
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

"What's the number one method of achieving civil rights in America? Don't scare the white folks." ~ Eol Sha

Praise be to C-SPAN - Democrats Should Listen to Sanders - How I Voted on November 8, 2016 - Trump's Foreign Policy: Do Stupid Shit - Trump's Clock is Ticking

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Postby Lancaster of Wessex » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:35 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Lancaster of Wessex wrote:
Well, sure. Every convention pretty much is, unless it's contested.
That is, unless you believe in the "a cadre of shady individuals and businesses control the world and the outcome of every US election is pre-ordained" theory...

I mean, all the delegate shenanigans...

When has that happened before?


Oh that I have no idea about. I'm a Canadian with no real expertise in these matters save making snarky remarks. :D
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I Can't Get No (Dump-Trump Faction) ~ apologies to The Roll

Postby New Jerzylvania » Tue Jul 19, 2016 6:35 pm

I Can't Get No (Dump-Trump Faction) ~ apologies to The Rolling Stones

I can't get no Dump-Trump faction
I can't get no Dump-Trump action
'Cause I try and I try and I try and I try
I can't get no, I can't get no

When I'm jivin' in my car
Barack comes on the radio
He's tellin' me more and more
About some hopeless information
Supposed to drive black representation

I can't get no, oh no, no, no
A hey, hey, hey, that's what I say

I can't get no Dump-Trump faction
I can't get no Dump-Trump action
'Cause I try and I try and I try and I try
I can't get no, I can't get no

When I'm watchin' my TV
Barack comes on and tells me
How white my life can be
But he can't be a man 'cause he doesn't rap
The same nigga threats as me

I can't get no, oh no, no, no
A hey, hey, hey, that's what I say

I can't get no Dump-Trump faction
I can't get the world's reaction
'Cause I try and I try and I try and I try
I can't get no, I can't get no

When Trump's flyin' round the world
And he's suing this and he's saying that
And he's tryin' to wreck my world
You tell me baby better come back maybe next week
'Cause GOP's on loser street

I can't get no, oh no, no, no
A hey, hey, hey, that's what I say

I can't get no, I can't get no
I can't get no Dump-Trump action, no Dump-Trump action
No Dump-Trump action, no Dump-Trump action
I can't get no

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