US GENERAL ELECTION MEGA-THREAD II: Clinton vs. Trump

[Zurkerx]

So Dana White is speaking at the RNC and he's actually doing really friggin well.

UFC President? Will he do a takedown on Trump's opponents then

[Washington Resistance Army]

So Dana White is speaking at the RNC and he's actually doing really friggin well.

UFC President? Will he do a takedown on Trump's opponents then

Verbally apparently, his bit was pretty good.

[Ashmoria]

So Dana White is speaking at the RNC and he's actually doing really friggin well.

is she going to run for Arkansas governor?

oops wrong speaker

[The Land Fomerly Known as Ligerplace]

Remember when Lee Atwater basically said that everything the Republicans say about taxes and cutting budgets is basically a substitute for "nigger nigger", because white voters know what they really mean and that they're appealing to racism? I miss the subtle dog-whistle. Build a Wall and Ban Muslims and AllLivesMatter feel a little...obvious.

I love it, I like knowing who my enemies are.

[Washington Resistance Army]

So Dana White is speaking at the RNC and he's actually doing really friggin well.

is she going to run for Arkansas governor?

Dana White's a guy, he's the head of the UFC

[New Jerzylvania]

Not to intrude on anyone else's schtick, or to stretch out a running gag that's gone on for far too long, but this popped into my head almost fully formed, and I need to get it down.

Apologies to Elton John.

Goodbye GOP
Though I never backed you at all
You had the sense to take credit
For communism's fall
Put Nixon far behind you,
While Atwater played his games
And plastered every building
With Ronald Reagan's name

And it seems to me the party died
When you nominated Trump
A garbage fire tycoon,
Yes, a flaming dump.
I would have tried to save you
But I'm still on the left
Which makes it seems so strange to me
I'm feeling so bereft.

Bush's terms were tough,
The toughest lies you had to tell
Washington created a clusterfuck
But you said things were going well
And when Obama won
And the Tea Party was born,
All your leaders brought them in
Those who they once had scorned

Goodbye GOP,
From a left wing man who could still see your appeal
Who saw you as something more than an enemy
But now you've discarded your ideals

Now you know how easy the song parody thing isn't to do. lol.
Not bad for your first crack and the song you chose was a good one to do.
Incidentally, it's not really a gag either. It is a legitimate form of political speech. You've heard of Mark Russell, right?

[Ashmoria]

is she going to run for Arkansas governor?

Dana White's a guy, he's the head of the UFC

yeah I just realized that.

I thought his speech was fine but irrelevant.

"trump is good to his friends"

[Eol Sha]

Remember when Lee Atwater basically said that everything the Republicans say about taxes and cutting budgets is basically a substitute for "nigger nigger", because white voters know what they really mean and that they're appealing to racism? I miss the subtle dog-whistle. Build a Wall and Ban Muslims and AllLivesMatter feel a little...obvious.

No, I don't remember that.

[Myrensis]

Of course Benghazi is brought up again.

Well they kind of blew it last night.

Trump had a fit about not being the center of attention and called Fox for an interview in the middle of the grieving mother.

Then they had those two yahoo security contractors who, however noble their actions in Benghazi were, were clearly much more interested in bragging about what bad asses they were and how they single-handed fought off the whole terrorist army than they were in providing any political useful attack on Clinton, probably because it was painfully obvious that they had no idea what was going on outside of their lane.

So obviously they've got to keep trying to find a way to make it useful again.

[Geilinor]

Some Trump supporter is on and he's doing a terrible job.

[Ashmoria]

I wish they would remember that they have to talk about the GOOD stuff they intend to do for the country.

[Corrian]

"I am the prime example of the American dream" Please, why is our facepalm emoticon gone?

[Washington Resistance Army]

"I am the prime example of the American dream" Please, why is our facepalm emoticon gone?

Cuz some people ruined it for us ;_;

[Galloism]

So did anyone see that Trump interview with Barbara Walters, where he bragged about how humble he is and that he's "humble in ways you can't even understand"?

You know, I've said things like that, but it was universally recognized as something called a joke. thing is - he wasn't joking.

[Yumyumsuppertime]

Not to intrude on anyone else's schtick, or to stretch out a running gag that's gone on for far too long, but this popped into my head almost fully formed, and I need to get it down.

Apologies to Elton John.

Goodbye GOP
Though I never backed you at all
You had the sense to take credit
For communism's fall
Put Nixon far behind you,
While Atwater played his games
And plastered every building
With Ronald Reagan's name

And it seems to me the party died
When you nominated Trump
A garbage fire tycoon,
Yes, a flaming dump.
I would have tried to save you
But I'm still on the left
Which makes it seems so strange to me
I'm feeling so bereft.

Bush's terms were tough,
The toughest lies you had to tell
Washington created a clusterfuck
But you said things were going well
And when Obama won
And the Tea Party was born,
All your leaders brought them in
Those who they once had scorned

Goodbye GOP,
From a left wing man who could still see your appeal
Who saw you as something more than an enemy
But now you've discarded your ideals

Now you know how easy the song parody thing isn't to do. lol.
Not bad for your first crack and the song you chose was a good one to do.
Incidentally, it's not really a gag either. It is a legitimate form of political speech. You've heard of Mark Russell, right?

1) Not actually my first time, even on this forum. Song parody used to be something of a hobby of mine, but I gave it up due to the fact that I can't sing worth a lick.

2) Yes, I'm familiar with him. *shudder*

[The Romulan Republic]

That their may be others with longer resumes does not make her unqualified.

Do you doubt that she could do the job? If so, why?

Politics is contextual and comparative, so I'd say that her overall lack of a governing resume is disqualifying, although we can quibble over the degree to which it's disqualifying.

This seems somewhat a matter of semantical nitpickery.

But if her major selling point is that she can rally more voters around a progressive vision of America and the Democratic party, the fact that she hasn't enacted any of those policies, whereas there are others who have, makes that selling point bunk.

Eh, people said Sanders never did much either, focusing on legislation he'd proposed as opposed to legislation he'd amended. I'd have to look more closely at Warren's record to say weather this critique is merited.

I'd also argue that Warren's decision to stay neutral in the primary arguably shows a fair amount of political savvy, as it poised her to help united the two main factions.

I also think she'd be an effective campaigner against Trump, and not for purely symbolic reasons.

I want my candidate to be accomplished and to have a record of policy achievement and political statesmanship. Are those absolutely necessary qualifications? Of course not. We've had ridiculously unqualified VP's before, and presidents as well for that matter.

Off the top of my head, Lincoln's highest office before the Presidency was one-term Congressman.

Lincoln being, of course, arguably the greatest President in American history and one of the main reasons there is a United States today.

So perhaps I stated my objection badly previously. Could she do the job? Sure. But so could Donald Trump. Her resume tells against her inasmuch as it makes her more disqualified than others. Your mileage may vary.

I disagree that Trump could do the job in any way a reasonable person would consider satisfactory.

The man is all hot air, bluster, and ego. His only real talent that I can see is as a con man and reality TV personality.

[Eol Sha]

RRRRROOOOOOOONNNNNNN!!! JOOOOOOHHHNNNNNSSSSOOOONNNN!!!

I hope Russ Feingold kicks this guy's ass.

[Corrian]

I wish they would remember that they have to talk about the GOOD stuff they intend to do for the country.

Seriously, why is it all doom and gloom and not about anything we're actually going to do?

[Geilinor]

Ah, Ron Johnson. Feingold will crush him and I'm looking forward to it.

[Galloism]

I wish they would remember that they have to talk about the GOOD stuff they intend to do for the country.

Seriously, why is it all doom and gloom and not about anything we're actually going to do?

No good ideas.

[Ashmoria]

I wish they would remember that they have to talk about the GOOD stuff they intend to do for the country.

Seriously, why is it all doom and gloom and not about anything we're actually going to do?

if they don't succeed in scaring the tar out of us they have no chance. its all "elect us or die"

[Eol Sha]

I wish they would remember that they have to talk about the GOOD stuff they intend to do for the country.

Seriously, why is it all doom and gloom and not about anything we're actually going to do?

The Republicans aren't going to do anything so what else are they gonna talk about?

[Ashmoria]

So did anyone see that Trump interview with Barbara Walters, where he bragged about how humble he is and that he's "humble in ways you can't even understand"?

You know, I've said things like that, but it was universally recognized as something called a joke. thing is - he wasn't joking.

its like being moderate in everything but moderation.

[The Romulan Republic]

I wish they would remember that they have to talk about the GOOD stuff they intend to do for the country.

What good stuff?

All they've got is greed, ignorance, fear, and hate.

[Eol Sha]

"I am the prime example of the American dream" Please, why is our facepalm emoticon gone?

Cuz some people ruined it for us ;_;

What happened?