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Who Do You Support in the 2016 Election?

Donald J. Trump (Republican)
282
29%
Hillary Rodham Clinton (Democrat)
331
34%
Gary Johnson (Libertarian)
139
14%
Jill Stein (Green)
113
12%
Undecided
48
5%
Other
64
7%
 
Total votes : 977

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:00 pm

Galloism wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Well that isn't going to end well

Define 'well'.

I would put money on it turning out hilarious.

It's not going to end well for the republicans, it's going to be late night show stuff for a awhile
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Postby Liriena » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:00 pm

USS Monitor wrote:
Liriena wrote:

Eeeeeeh... he has some peculiar opinions.


Like what? I don't know much about him.

Thinks Assad is a poor innocent victim of Western imperialism and propaganda. Saw the march in Paris after the Charlie Hebdo massacre as a "white power march".
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Postby Eol Sha » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:00 pm

Galloism wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Well that isn't going to end well

Define 'well'.

I would put money on it turning out hilarious.

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Postby Trumpostan » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:01 pm

Galloism wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Well that isn't going to end well

Define 'well'.

I would put money on it turning out hilarious.


Trump's social media tantrum after this "intervention" could be glorious.

"Donald Trump jr is a real low energy guy, sad"
"Reince Priebus kind of sounds like an illegal immigrant, I have my best people investigating his birth certificate"
"Ivanka is bleeding out of her whatever"
"Giuliani is an ass, trust me, and not pretty as a woman either, believe me. Guy has yuuuge mental problems"
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:01 pm

Liriena wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
Like what? I don't know much about him.

Thinks Assad is a poor innocent victim of Western imperialism and propaganda. Saw the march in Paris after the Charlie Hebdo massacre as a "white power march".

Well that's enough to kill the greens
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Postby Eol Sha » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:02 pm

Liriena wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
Like what? I don't know much about him.

Thinks Assad is a poor innocent victim of Western imperialism and propaganda. Saw the march in Paris after the Charlie Hebdo massacre as a "white power march".

:eyebrow: *sigh*
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

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Postby The balkens » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:02 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Liriena wrote:Thinks Assad is a poor innocent victim of Western imperialism and propaganda. Saw the march in Paris after the Charlie Hebdo massacre as a "white power march".

Well that's enough to kill the greens


I never took the greens seriously but wow.

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:04 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Liriena wrote:Thinks Assad is a poor innocent victim of Western imperialism and propaganda. Saw the march in Paris after the Charlie Hebdo massacre as a "white power march".

:eyebrow: *sigh*

This is why the Green Party never gets off the ground. At least the libertarians are trying to cut down on the crazy
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:07 pm

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Postby USS Monitor » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:07 pm

Pantuxia wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
Like what? I don't know much about him.

Doesn't like Bernie, he thinks that he just wants to further the "white agenda."
Doesn't like Beyonce, think she's simply pandering to capitalism by attacking police brutality in her music.
Thinks Assad is the victim.


Welp, that explains what he's doing in the Green Party.
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Postby Liriena » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:08 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Liriena wrote:The Greens and the Libertarians should put more effort into winning at the local and state level.

Yeah. That's been my opinion for years now. You need a sizable and loyal support base before you can hope to compete in the big leagues.

Besides, in elections such as this, they could benefit from having candidates for every level, other than just the presidency, and betting on voters picking major party candidates for president, and then getting a bit more creative further down the ballot.
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Postby Astrolinium » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:08 pm

Pantuxia wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
Like what? I don't know much about him.

Doesn't like Bernie, he thinks that he just wants to further the "white agenda."
Doesn't like Beyonce, think she's simply pandering to capitalism by attacking police brutality in her music.
Thinks Assad is the victim.

He also thinks the plane shot down over Ukraine was a false flag attack committed by American in order to defame Russia, and when we put additional sanctions on Russia for the actions in Ukraine, he basically went (heavily paraphrasing), "But how can you focus on literally any other foreign policy when Israel has the audacity to exist!"
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:08 pm


I can picture Trump flaming mad of the intervention and betrayal
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Postby PaNTuXIa » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:09 pm

Liriena wrote:
USS Monitor wrote:
Like what? I don't know much about him.

Thinks Assad is a poor innocent victim of Western imperialism and propaganda. Saw the march in Paris after the Charlie Hebdo massacre as a "white power march".

And that officially ends my support for Stein.
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:11 pm

Pantuxia wrote:
Liriena wrote:Thinks Assad is a poor innocent victim of Western imperialism and propaganda. Saw the march in Paris after the Charlie Hebdo massacre as a "white power march".

And that officially ends my support for Stein.

She probably would have done better with no VP
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Postby Eol Sha » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:11 pm

Pantuxia wrote:Also, to those of you who deny that Bernie Bros are going to Stein:
http://fusion.net/story/312634/the-gree ... -love-now/

That was an interesting article. Albeit, filled with arguments I've heard time and time again and remain unconvinced by.

Anyway, I don't think people are denying that some of Sanders' supporters are going over to Stein. They're just saying, and I'm among them, that a relatively insignificant number of people are going to vote for the Greens in November.
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Postby Trumpostan » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:12 pm

Here's my first wild stab in the dark election prediction for november:

Hillary 47
Trump 40
Johnson 12
Stein/others 1

Nothing to go on but gut feeling, but hey it works for the Donald!
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:13 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Pantuxia wrote:Also, to those of you who deny that Bernie Bros are going to Stein:
http://fusion.net/story/312634/the-gree ... -love-now/

That was an interesting article. Albeit, filled with arguments I've heard time and time again and remain unconvinced by.

Anyway, I don't think people are denying that some of Sanders' supporters are going over to Stein. They're just saying, and I'm among them, that a relatively insignificant number of people are going to vote for the Greens in November.

I don't think her VP pick is going to help in that regard
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Postby Eol Sha » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:13 pm

Pantuxia wrote:
Liriena wrote:Thinks Assad is a poor innocent victim of Western imperialism and propaganda. Saw the march in Paris after the Charlie Hebdo massacre as a "white power march".

And that officially ends my support for Stein.

I suppose some of the hardcore lefties will eat that up.
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

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Postby PaNTuXIa » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:14 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Pantuxia wrote:And that officially ends my support for Stein.

I suppose some of the hardcore lefties will eat that up.

How so? I'm sure Merizoc will love Stein's anti-wifi views.
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Postby Eol Sha » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:15 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:That was an interesting article. Albeit, filled with arguments I've heard time and time again and remain unconvinced by.

Anyway, I don't think people are denying that some of Sanders' supporters are going over to Stein. They're just saying, and I'm among them, that a relatively insignificant number of people are going to vote for the Greens in November.

I don't think her VP pick is going to help in that regard

I guess it'll depend on how much people care about the no-name VP pick of a near-no name presidential candidate.
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

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Postby The balkens » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:15 pm

Pantuxia wrote:
Eol Sha wrote:I suppose some of the hardcore lefties will eat that up.

How so? I'm sure Merizoc will love Stein's anti-wifi views.

wat

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:15 pm

Eol Sha wrote:
Pantuxia wrote:And that officially ends my support for Stein.

I suppose some of the hardcore lefties will eat that up.

I don't know, they might be a bit put off over the Charlie Hebdo comments
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Postby Liriena » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:16 pm

Trumpostan wrote:Here's my first wild stab in the dark election prediction for november:

Hillary 47
Trump 40
Johnson 12
Stein/others 1

Nothing to go on but gut feeling, but hey it works for the Donald!

The Johnson will probably grow in the polls over the next few months, but I think he'll ultimately underperform in the election.
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An aspiring writer and journalist
Political compass stuff:
Economic Left/Right: -8.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.92
For: Grassroots democracy, workers' self-management, humanitarianism, pacifism, pluralism, environmentalism, interculturalism, indigenous rights, minority rights, LGBT+ rights, feminism, optimism
Against: Nationalism, authoritarianism, fascism, conservatism, populism, violence, ethnocentrism, racism, sexism, religious bigotry, anti-LGBT+ bigotry, death penalty, neoliberalism, tribalism,
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Aug 03, 2016 4:17 pm

Liriena wrote:
Trumpostan wrote:Here's my first wild stab in the dark election prediction for november:

Hillary 47
Trump 40
Johnson 12
Stein/others 1

Nothing to go on but gut feeling, but hey it works for the Donald!

The Johnson will probably grow in the polls over the next few months, but I think he'll ultimately underperform in the election.

If he goes up in the polls enough he might be able to be on the debates
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>Xovland: I keep getting ads for printer ink. Sometimes, when you get that feeling down there, you have to look at some steamy printer pictures.
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