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Who Do You Support in the 2016 Election?

Donald J. Trump (Republican)
282
29%
Hillary Rodham Clinton (Democrat)
331
34%
Gary Johnson (Libertarian)
139
14%
Jill Stein (Green)
113
12%
Undecided
48
5%
Other
64
7%
 
Total votes : 977

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:11 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Is he seriously saying that Trump cares for the little guy? This is the same Trump that said the wages are too high, right?


You big silly.

The republican party is the party of inclusion!

Ah yes inclusion for the upper 1%
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:12 pm

Well both of my grandparents are a sleep
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Postby Ashmoria » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:13 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Is he seriously saying that Trump cares for the little guy? This is the same Trump that said the wages are too high, right?

the same little guy that once he has a contract with trump and start working on it he renegotiates the contract so the little guy loses money.
whatever

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Eol Sha
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Postby Eol Sha » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:13 pm

He's still going. Oh my god.
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You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

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Postby Southerly Gentleman » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:14 pm

Idzequitch wrote:In comparison to everyone else, Eric Trump is surprisingly tolerable, if not particularly inspiring or persuasive.

Don't mean to nitpick, but I think you're referring to Donald Trump, Jr.
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:15 pm

Eol Sha wrote:He's still going. Oh my god.

He's put both of my grandparents to sleep
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:15 pm

Oh joy he's talking about guns
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Postby Corrian » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:16 pm

Oh god, he's using that "Look at Chicago" argument.
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Postby Idzequitch » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:16 pm

Southerly Gentleman wrote:
Idzequitch wrote:In comparison to everyone else, Eric Trump is surprisingly tolerable, if not particularly inspiring or persuasive.

Don't mean to nitpick, but I think you're referring to Donald Trump, Jr.

I realized that a moment after I posted. Turns out I'm not good at Keeping Up with the Kar-Trump-ians.
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Postby Southerly Gentleman » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:16 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Southerly Gentleman wrote:Goebbels, more like. You can already see he's a master deliverer of propaganda.


No! Goebbels was fucking evil brilliant. I once watched one of his anti-jew propaganda films. Knew it was one but found myself having negative thoughts. It was startling.

Christie is more of angry Oliver Hardy.

:rofl: That he is. But he gets his target audience worked up, that's for sure.
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Eol Sha
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Postby Eol Sha » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:17 pm

I'm gonna go reheat some pizza.
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:18 pm

Southerly Gentleman wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
No! Goebbels was fucking evil brilliant. I once watched one of his anti-jew propaganda films. Knew it was one but found myself having negative thoughts. It was startling.

Christie is more of angry Oliver Hardy.

:rofl: That he is. But he gets his target audience worked up, that's for sure.

"Target" audience?
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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:18 pm

Southerly Gentleman wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
No! Goebbels was fucking evil brilliant. I once watched one of his anti-jew propaganda films. Knew it was one but found myself having negative thoughts. It was startling.

Christie is more of angry Oliver Hardy.

:rofl: That he is. But he gets his target audience worked up, that's for sure.

Trump Jr. Is definitely Goebbels for sure!
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>Xovland: I keep getting ads for printer ink. Sometimes, when you get that feeling down there, you have to look at some steamy printer pictures.
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Postby The Romulan Republic » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:19 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Is he seriously saying that Trump cares for the little guy? This is the same Trump that said the wages are too high, right?


You big silly.

The republican party is the party of inclusion!


Yes. They welcome all bigots to their cause, weather they're homophobes, Islamophobes, Neo-Nazis, or Klansmen.
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Postby Ashmoria » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:19 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Southerly Gentleman wrote: :rofl: That he is. But he gets his target audience worked up, that's for sure.

Trump Jr. Is definitely Goebbels for sure!

he is a much better speaker than his father is.
whatever

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Postby New Jerzylvania » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:20 pm

The Romulan Republic wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
You big silly.

The republican party is the party of inclusion!


Yes. They welcome all bigots to their cause, weather they're homophobes, Islamophobes, Neo-Nazis, or Klansmen.


Now... release the hounds!
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Postby Nerotysia » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:21 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Is he seriously saying that Trump cares for the little guy? This is the same Trump that said the wages are too high, right?

I don't remember who said it first, but the Republicans have essentially brainwashed a huge chunk of the working class into voting against their own best interests.

It's insane.

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Postby Eol Sha » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:22 pm

Hmm, I wonder how hard Capito is riding Trump's popularity in her home state.
You'd better believe I'm a bitter Bernie Sanders supporter. The Dems fucked up and fucked up hard. Hopefully they'll learn that neoliberalism and maintaining the status quo isn't the way to win this election or any other one. I doubt they will, though.

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Postby Idzequitch » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:22 pm

Ashmoria wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Trump Jr. Is definitely Goebbels for sure!

he is a much better speaker than his father is.

Very much so.
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Postby New Jerzylvania » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:24 pm

Nerotysia wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Is he seriously saying that Trump cares for the little guy? This is the same Trump that said the wages are too high, right?

I don't remember who said it first, but the Republicans have essentially brainwashed a huge chunk of the working class into voting against their own best interests.

It's insane.


They are "the low info voters." The typical ones hardly got through high school, work at Walmart and live in rural areas and have their ignorance reinforced with passe country music.
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Postby Geilinor » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:25 pm

Eol Sha wrote:Hmm, I wonder how hard Capito is riding Trump's popularity in her home state.

Interesting, Capito is actually a moderate. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelley_Moore_Capito#Social_policy
Senator Capito is sponsoring the Rural Access to Hospice Act to improve the quality, access, and retention of hospice facilities in rural parts of the nation.[39] In response to the Supreme Court’s marriage equality decision, Senator Capito released a statement after noting that her state’s greatest asset are its caring people:

“Regardless of our differences, we care for our neighbors, friends and communities in need. Acknowledging that we have differing views, the Supreme Court has made its decision. While I would have preferred that the Supreme Court leave this decision to the states, it is my hope that all West Virginians will move forward and continue to care for and respect one another.”[40]

Senator Capito supports reproductive rights, including the right to a safe and legal abortion. Senator Capito is partnering with Democrat Kirsten Gillibrand to sponsor the Campus Accountability and Safety Act (CASA) to help stop sexual assaults on college campuses.


In January 2009, Capito voted to expand the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP) as part of its re-authorization. The expanded coverage would include about four million more children in the program.[41] In May 2008, Capito voted for the Post-9/11 Veterans Educational Assistance Act of 2008 (commonly called the new G.I. Bill), which expanded the educational benefits for military veterans who have served since September 11, 2001.[42]


She's not a bad senator but she ruins it by supporting Trump.
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Postby Narland » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:26 pm

New Jerzylvania wrote:
Nerotysia wrote:I don't remember who said it first, but the Republicans have essentially brainwashed a huge chunk of the working class into voting against their own best interests.

It's insane.


They are "the low info voters." The typical ones hardly got through high school, work at Walmart and live in rural areas and have their ignorance reinforced with passe country music.

Any parent who would let their kid drive a D-10 Cat has my vote.

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Postby Thermodolia » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:26 pm

New Jerzylvania wrote:
The Romulan Republic wrote:
Yes. They welcome all bigots to their cause, weather they're homophobes, Islamophobes, Neo-Nazis, or Klansmen.


Now... release the hounds!

Right away Mr. Burns!
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Postby Idzequitch » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:26 pm

Apparently caring about the environment is a terrible thing now.
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Postby New Jerzylvania » Tue Jul 19, 2016 7:26 pm

Idzequitch wrote:
Ashmoria wrote:he is a much better speaker than his father is.

Very much so.


He's much younger, the old Trump is 70 and totally redundant in everything he says. It's really not too tough for him to beat that is it?
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