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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:17 pm

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/4 ... ew-fascism

The Liberal Democratic Party of Japan has recently won a 2 3rds majority in both the upper and lower houses of legislature.

Among their stances are the amendment of the constitution that was basically forced upon Japan at the end of the last world war. Parts they would like to repeal include the military restrictions. This sounds all good and moderate until, accorsing to the article, more extreme ends may be hidden in the party's agenda.

dozens of LDP legislators and ministers — including Japan’s prime minister, Shinzo Abe — are members of a radical nationalist organization called Nippon Kaigi, which believes (according to one of its members, Hakubun Shimomura, who until recently was Japan’s education minister) that Japan should abandon a “masochistic view of history” wherein it accepts that it committed crimes during the Second World War. In fact, in Nippon Kaigi’s view, Japan was the wronged party in the war.According to the Congressional Research Service, Nippon Kaigi believes that “Japan should be applauded for liberating much of East Asia” during WW2, that the “Tokyo War Crimes tribunals were illegitimate,” and that the rape of Nanking was either “exaggerated or fabricated.” It denies the forced prostitution of Chinese and Korean “comfort women” by the Imperial Japanese Army, believes Japan should have an army again — something outlawed by Japan’s current constitution — and believes that it should return to worshipping the emperor

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Personally, I have no idea how credible this paper is. Abe didn't seem so bad to me. But if this is true, then it points to things that could potentially get pretty ugly. I think while globalism is falling, populist, Radical Islamist and even Ultranationalist groups are rising. The phenomenon is observable worldwide. To what's happening in Europe to the middle east, and apparently in the far east. It seems like extremely far right agendas are atarting to unfold. And with tentions between major world powers increasing. I don't think it can possibly end well for anyone.
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Postby Vedilia » Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:21 pm

What the hell is Kali Yuga and what's it to do with this?
Also...what the fuck? Nippon Kaigi? Never heard of them.
I thought Japan was immune to this shit but then again they got nuked in World War II, so...shit.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:23 pm

It's known that Nippon Kaigi has significant membership and influence within the Japanese government. Abe, while a right-wing nationalist, is not a fascist or an ultranationalist. Most people in Japan still support pacifism and won't go for Nippon Kaigi's manifesto.
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:24 pm

Geilinor wrote:It's known that Nippon Kaigi has significant membership and influence within the Japanese government. Abe, while a right-wing nationalist, is not a fascist or an ultranationalist. Most people in Japan still support pacifism and won't go for Nippon Kaigi's manifesto.

I hope so. Cause they sound nuts.
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Postby Unified Governments » Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:24 pm

The Empire reawakens.

But no, seriously. This is so stupid. So because Japan wants to unshackle their military due to the looming threat from China that somehow means "New Japanese Fascism"?

Uh-huh.
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Postby United Eurasian Socialist States » Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:24 pm

Nippon Kaigi is indeed pretty bad and Abe is indeed part of it. And as someone that's lived in Japan (you don't even need to live there to see how the populace is reacting), literally fucking nobody wants any of this right wing stuff to happen. The Japanese are firmly against Nippon Kaigi and the re-militarization of Japan, aside from the small, yet vocal, minority of fascists and other right-wing groups.
But yeah, Abe isn't an ultranationalist or a fascist, at least from what I can tell so far.
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:26 pm

Unified Governments wrote:The Empire reawakens.

But no, seriously. This is so stupid. So because Japan wants to unshackle their military due to the looming threat from China that somehow means "New Japanese Fascism"?

Uh-huh.

No the Ultranationalism and denial of Japanese War Crimes and intent for militaristic expansionism means something maybe possibly perhaps close to New Japanese Fascism.
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Postby United Eurasian Socialist States » Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:27 pm

Unified Governments wrote:The Empire reawakens.

But no, seriously. This is so stupid. So because Japan wants to unshackle their military due to the looming threat from China that somehow means "New Japanese Fascism"?

Uh-huh.


Japan has what is essentially a blood pact with the United States that states that the U.S. Armed Forces will defend Japan from aggression. Besides, most Japanese people don't want a powerful Japanese military again, and they're happy with that military alliance with the U.S. The only people pushing for a militarily stronger Japan are (mostly) politicians.
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Postby Vedilia » Sun Jul 17, 2016 7:28 pm

Unified Governments wrote:The Empire reawakens.

But no, seriously. This is so stupid. So because Japan wants to unshackle their military due to the looming threat from China that somehow means "New Japanese Fascism"?

Uh-huh.

No, but it's just as shit, if Wikipedia's to be believed.
On 10th July 2016, Mari Yamamoto and Jake Adelstein, writing for the Daily Beast, described Nippon Kaigi as the "Religious Cult Secretly Running Japan", saying the "small cult with some of the country’s most powerful people, aims to return Japan to pre-WWII imperial "glory"." Tamotsu Sugano, the author of the bestselling expose on the group, 日本会議の研究(扶桑社) describes them as a reactionary group intent on turning back sexual equality, restoring patriarchal values, and returning Japan to a pre-war constitution--"a Japan where women, children, and foreigners have no basic human rights."

 We "Japan meeting" is a predecessor organization and the "Association to protect Japan" integration "Japan National Congress to protect the" national movement with a nationwide grassroots network, which was established on May 30, 1997 is the organization.

 Our national campaign is, so far, celebration movements to celebrate the realization of the era legislation of the Meiji, Taisho and Showa, the imperial family of your auspicious occasion, such as your accession to the throne of Emperor Showa your reign 60 years and Imajo Majesty , normalization and history textbook compilation business of education, held in celebration of Veterans memorial events and Asia symbiosis of the time of the end of World war II 50 years, the Self-Defense Forces support to PKO activities, such as the proposal of a new constitution, which was proposed national philosophy based on tradition , it has been deployed in the country a strong national movement to seek the correct Japan of course over a period of 30-odd years.

 Today, Japan is, politics to confusion, education to be devastated, suffer from the crisis management, such as many of the problems to be missing, we welcome when ahead of rocky. We "Japan meeting" is, to convey to protect the beautiful Japan, the slogan "a proud nation-building", and recommendations to action.

 In addition, in response to our new national movement, in the National Assembly it has been established the "Japan meeting parliamentarians meeting" by the non-partisan. We, the aim of beautiful Japanese reconstruction, and then expand the grassroots national movement in all over the country along with the parliamentarians of everyone. Thank you for your support of everyone.

from http://www.nipponkaigi.org/about
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Postby Milizewe » Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:04 pm

Well for a nation that's having a hard time with birth rates and such, I wouldn't imagine nationalism to be totally unpopular.

At the same time I know nothing about Japan so.....
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Postby Vedilia » Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:06 pm

Milizewe wrote:Well for a nation that's having a hard time with birth rates and such, I wouldn't imagine nationalism to be totally unpopular.

At the same time I know nothing about Japan so.....

Nippon Kaigi will make hentai real again.
It'll be all the yandere shit too.
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Postby United Eurasian Socialist States » Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:09 pm

Vedilia wrote:
Milizewe wrote:Well for a nation that's having a hard time with birth rates and such, I wouldn't imagine nationalism to be totally unpopular.

At the same time I know nothing about Japan so.....

Nippon Kaigi will make hentai real again.
It'll be all the yandere shit too.


well shit, maybe i should move back to Japan then...
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Postby Maurepas » Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:15 pm

To be fair, and I'm not excusing Japanese warcrimes or saying they didn't happen, but it is true that they did liberate a lot of Asia. That Japan essentially granted them autonomy is a big reason why most of the colonial empires collapsed in the area, and it is true that the United States did wrong them in a lot ways before the war, though in fairness to that it was in not recognizing their own colonial empires like we did Europe's.

Not saying I support this platform or anything, but that Japan can take solace in that is something that I think they could do in that regard.

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Postby Pope Joan » Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:16 pm

We are all forgetting the horrors of total war.

Same thing is happening in Germany

and of course the US is always stuffed with hawks
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Postby Vedilia » Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:18 pm

Pope Joan wrote:We are all forgetting the horrors of total war.

Same thing is happening in Germany

and of course the US is always stuffed with hawks

Definitely.
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Postby Greater Istanistan » Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:21 pm

I don't find them credible, and even then Abe isn't following their agenda very well. He's mending bridges with South Korea, promoting women's equality to an unusual degree, and doing his best to cautiously reform society. Of course he's trying to rearm the nation and has visited the Yakusuni Shrine, but that's hardly a war on "historical masochism". Besides, this isn't anything like the 60s and 70s, when a guy with a sword assassinated the Socialist Party leader on live TV and Yukio Mishima committed ritual suicide via attempted far-right coup.
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:31 pm

Vedilia wrote:What the hell is Kali Yuga and what's it to do with this?

Age of strife before the end of the world.
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Postby Vedilia » Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:33 pm

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
Vedilia wrote:What the hell is Kali Yuga and what's it to do with this?

Age of strife before the end of the world.

Oh. Sounds nasty, I hope that doesn't come true like all the other apocalyptic prophesies.
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Postby The New Sea Territory » Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:34 pm

Fash-bashing time, Japanese Antifa.
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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:44 pm

The New Sea Territory wrote:Fash-bashing time, Japanese Antifa.

Antifa just attacks anyone they think are fascist.

This includes Libertarians, Establishmentarians, Monarchists, Frat Boys, Comedians who did an ironically racist bit, Professors that didn't recognize their views in a seminar, people opposed to transgender bathrooms, Goats, Inanimate objects, old white men hailing cabs, Priests and Leftists who disagree with them.
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Postby Vedilia » Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:45 pm

Jochizyd Republic wrote:
The New Sea Territory wrote:Fash-bashing time, Japanese Antifa.

Antifa just attacks anyone they think are fascist.

This includes Libertarians, Establishmentarians, Monarchists, Comedians who did an ironically racist bit, Professors that didn't recognize their views in a seminar, people opposed to transgender bathrooms, Goats, Priests and Leftists who disagree with them.

:rofl: I don't agree with them on the best way to counter fascists and think it's as bad as preemptive warfare, which it practically is in my opinion except pursued by an ideological association rather than a country.
That's just funny. A goat?
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Postby Threeman » Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:49 pm

Wasn't a fan when I saw facism but they have some good ideas in their program so I can only hope this is actually true

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Postby Mike the Progressive » Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:52 pm

Pope Joan wrote:We are all forgetting the horrors of total war.

Same thing is happening in Germany

and of course the US is always stuffed with hawks


Many heavily armed nations doesn't make the world a safer place, but only a more dangerous and unstable one. Without the existential threat of communism, we're forgetting that.

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Postby Jochizyd Republic » Sun Jul 17, 2016 8:54 pm

Threeman wrote:Wasn't a fan when I saw facism but they have some good ideas in their program so I can only hope this is actually true

I wouldn't mind the emperor thing and the reinstatement of certain traditional values.

The Xenophobia paired with Imperialism is never good tho.
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