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Should "conversion therapy" be considered child abuse?

Yes
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81%
No
58
16%
Unsure/ undecided
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3%
 
Total votes : 359

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Lavan Tiri
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Postby Lavan Tiri » Sun Jul 31, 2016 7:20 pm

Othelos wrote:
American Imperial State wrote:
To protect children

From what?


Well, ya see, the Gay Agenda has a plan. For the past 18,000,000 years, we've been working ever-so-slowly toward our ultimate goals: the elimination and illegalization of heterosexuality, the eradication of Christianity, the destruction of everything that could be considered "traditional", and our masterstroke: the Gay Virus. The Virus eliminates the one thing holding us homos back: the fact that you have to choose to be gay. The Virus was finally completed in the summer of 2015, when we had our agents in the government (spoiler: the whole SCOTUS is gay) legalize homosexual marriage in all fifty US states, since the USA is the most important country on Earth. Conversation Therapy is the only way to resist or even cure Gayness, which is why the Agenda wants it illegalized, since it protects the children, because only the children can catch the Gay Virus.

So really, American Imperial State is right, because once everyone has caught Gay, we're going to sacrifice everyone on Earth to Satan. They've figured out our whole rainbow-colored endgame.
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Postby Renewed Imperial Germany » Sun Jul 31, 2016 7:21 pm

Lavan Tiri wrote:
Othelos wrote:From what?


Well, ya see, the Gay Agenda has a plan. For the past 18,000,000 years, we've been working ever-so-slowly toward our ultimate goals: the elimination and illegalization of heterosexuality, the eradication of Christianity, the destruction of everything that could be considered "traditional", and our masterstroke: the Gay Virus. The Virus eliminates the one thing holding us homos back: the fact that you have to choose to be gay. The Virus was finally completed in the summer of 2015, when we had our agents in the government (spoiler: the whole SCOTUS is gay) legalize homosexual marriage in all fifty US states, since the USA is the most important country on Earth. Conversation Therapy is the only way to resist or even cure Gayness, which is why the Agenda wants it illegalized, since it protects the children, because only the children can catch the Gay Virus.

So really, American Imperial State is right, because once everyone has caught Gay, we're going to sacrifice everyone on Earth to Satan. They've figured out our whole rainbow-colored endgame.


I'm not sure whether to laugh because thIs is the best satire I've ever seen or be very very afraid because someone actually thinks all this so.... have a cookie?
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Postby The V O I D » Sun Jul 31, 2016 8:01 pm

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
Lavan Tiri wrote:
Well, ya see, the Gay Agenda has a plan. For the past 18,000,000 years, we've been working ever-so-slowly toward our ultimate goals: the elimination and illegalization of heterosexuality, the eradication of Christianity, the destruction of everything that could be considered "traditional", and our masterstroke: the Gay Virus. The Virus eliminates the one thing holding us homos back: the fact that you have to choose to be gay. The Virus was finally completed in the summer of 2015, when we had our agents in the government (spoiler: the whole SCOTUS is gay) legalize homosexual marriage in all fifty US states, since the USA is the most important country on Earth. Conversation Therapy is the only way to resist or even cure Gayness, which is why the Agenda wants it illegalized, since it protects the children, because only the children can catch the Gay Virus.

So really, American Imperial State is right, because once everyone has caught Gay, we're going to sacrifice everyone on Earth to Satan. They've figured out our whole rainbow-colored endgame.


I'm not sure whether to laugh because thIs is the best satire I've ever seen or be very very afraid because someone actually thinks all this so.... have a cookie?


It could be worse. There's a Christian youtuber who thinks that all governments are run by the Satanic Pedophilic Illuminati, and that feminism, LGBT rights, etc. are all satanic teachings, and are anti-christ/anti-bible. Oh, and he thinks all religions ought to be outlawed, and believes that freedom of religion only exists to allow the Biblical law to exist and govern everyone.

Yeah.

But really, conversion therapy is the thing that ought to be banned. Surprised it isn't. It's cruel and unusual punishment, is it not?

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Postby The Alexanderians » Sun Jul 31, 2016 8:02 pm

Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
Othelos wrote:From what?


"Ze Gay"

Why would anyone want to pray the gay away? We'd never get anything done as a culture!
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Postby The V O I D » Sun Jul 31, 2016 8:19 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
Renewed Imperial Germany wrote:
"Ze Gay"

Why would anyone want to pray the gay away? We'd never get anything done as a culture!


I honestly laugh at the logic of conservatives sometimes. Like, if it were honestly a choice, do they think that these kids are all masochists and choosing to be resented, hated, beaten, and tortured to be 'converted'? Do they think their brain's makeup and their very biology is going to change for the sake of conformity?

Like, really. It's... just ignorant.

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Postby The Alexanderians » Sun Jul 31, 2016 8:25 pm

The V O I D wrote:
The Alexanderians wrote:Why would anyone want to pray the gay away? We'd never get anything done as a culture!


I honestly laugh at the logic of conservatives sometimes. Like, if it were honestly a choice, do they think that these kids are all masochists and choosing to be resented, hated, beaten, and tortured to be 'converted'? Do they think their brain's makeup and their very biology is going to change for the sake of conformity?

Like, really. It's... just ignorant.

Even masochists are into safe play, if you get off on unregulated physical and emotional abuse you should seek professional help.
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Postby The V O I D » Sun Jul 31, 2016 8:27 pm

The Alexanderians wrote:
The V O I D wrote:
I honestly laugh at the logic of conservatives sometimes. Like, if it were honestly a choice, do they think that these kids are all masochists and choosing to be resented, hated, beaten, and tortured to be 'converted'? Do they think their brain's makeup and their very biology is going to change for the sake of conformity?

Like, really. It's... just ignorant.

Even masochists are into safe play, if you get off on unregulated physical and emotional abuse you should seek professional help.
Topic break aside.


Yeah. It's just torture for torture's sake so that the kid will tell the parents/adults what they want to hear, even though they are likely traumatizing the child in question on top of not doing anything to "fix them."

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Postby Gauthier » Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:01 am

Gay conversion "therapy" is little more than classical conditioning to disincentivize gay feelings.

I'm just surprised that a Pray Away the Gay camp hasn't gone full Clockwork Orange and tried to use the Ludovico Technique on its inmates.
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Postby Grenartia » Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:08 pm

Gauthier wrote:Gay conversion "therapy" is little more than classical conditioning to disincentivize gay feelings.

I'm just surprised that a Pray Away the Gay camp hasn't gone full Clockwork Orange and tried to use the Ludovico Technique on its inmates.


I imagine at least one has tried.
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Postby The V O I D » Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:10 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Gauthier wrote:Gay conversion "therapy" is little more than classical conditioning to disincentivize gay feelings.

I'm just surprised that a Pray Away the Gay camp hasn't gone full Clockwork Orange and tried to use the Ludovico Technique on its inmates.


I imagine at least one has tried.


Unfortunately.

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Postby 256 Shades of Grey » Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:01 am

It is abuse. It doesn't allow people to be who they want to be and implies they're either diseased, broken or incomplete, made the wrong choice, had been brainwashed beforehand to something other than what they're 'supposed to be'. These attitudes are toxic. They devalue the individual, making them fall below the converter's norms and roles. The individual is shamed and guilt-tripped, their wishes, wants and needs secondary to the higher being or thing 'dictating' the need for the conversion.

I have no empathy for anyone advocating or practicing this. They are all dead to me, the sick, dirty bags of human filth that they are. The only hope is that they'll eventually lose in their cause and die out. The individual will win the war again. Difference will win. Freaks will win. Deviants will win. Those who won't reform to difference and instead keep to sameness and practice assimilation, will lose. Society will lose, morality will lose, religion will lose, culture will lose.

The only way to eliminate us and our freakish, anomalous, deviating essence once and for all is to gun them down until the only one that's left is you... then what? Was sameness true after all or was it just a lie you were brainwashed with?

Conversion therapy can be perceived as probably one of the more perverse manifestations of the constant war between the individual and society. It is to the benefit of all that it's ended by any means necessary. It has no place on the face of the Earth.
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