Turkey thread: now stuffed with more authoritarianism!

[Imperializt Russia]

https://twitter.com/moezbhar/status/754 ... wsrc%5Etfw

souseiseki tips for people dealing with tanks:

do not:

crowd around the tank
hit the tank
surround the tank with cars and people
park in front of the tank

They seem to deliberately avoiding hitting anyone. I was imagining them barreling over lines of cars. Not one Taxi.

Yeah, what clearly occurred in that footage was, someone blocked the tank's way with a car. So it tried to navigate around the car, and unfortunately, struck a taxi.

Tank commander would have tried directing the driver. That looked like an Abrams to me. This is the field of view a Challenger 2 driver has.

Abrams really is not much better (though has three-port frontal arc view).

[Wesontia]

When you literally have to mow down crowds of protesting civillians to get your goal, it probably means you're the villains.

Given that Erdogan has done much of the same, you are not exactly vindicating him.

[Nariterrr]

If they do what they say I hope it succeeds.

Why? Would you like something like this to happen in the UK?

[Milizewe]

Get him democratically out of here, a coups is wrong. Would you like it if Trump was couped.

Coups are constitutional if an Islamist is in power, but this is not an official coup.

How so?

[Great Feng]

Trump and Clinton were Democratically elected
Hitler was Democratically Elected
Putin was
Assad arguably was by your definition
None of these people deserve to be leaders of their countries and deserved to be overthrown(If Trump or Clinton are elected) and replaced with better people or democratic elections.
Hitler seriously should have been couped, and Trump and Clinton.

Trump hasn't been elected as of now.

Yeah, noticed that mistake after I wrote it.

[Kelinfort]

When you literally have to mow down crowds of protesting civillians to get your goal, it probably means you're the villains.

So Anti Clinton or Anti Trump people/military rebels if they were elected would be the bad guys?
You don't understand politics at all. It's not all bloodless and that you can win without hurting a few people.
By your logic we should just all willingly live under democratically elected people who became dictators and hope it works out for the best.
Oh wait, that doesn't work.
The USA revolution had to actually kill some protesters during the American revolution, as did the British. So did the Germans, Soviets, and Japanese in WW2, and the Germans, Russians, Serbians, etc. in WW1.
Were they all the bad guys?

Unless Clinton or Trump start usurping the Congress, yes they are.

[The Nihilistic view]

Erdogan has asked Boris Johnson for asylum, right after Boris wins poem competition calling him a goatfucker... hahahaha

Boris started the coup with his poem!

[Zeinbrad]

They seem to deliberately avoiding hitting anyone. I was imagining them barreling over lines of cars. Not one Taxi.

The barrel of the tank seems to be intentionally positioned so as not to smack the protesters in the head, as well.

Isn't that the standard position of a tank barrel?

[Imperializt Russia]

They seem to deliberately avoiding hitting anyone. I was imagining them barreling over lines of cars. Not one Taxi.

The barrel of the tank seems to be intentionally positioned so as not to smack the protesters in the head, as well.

Keeps it out of the way of minivans and whatnot as well.

[Umars memeistan]

If the turkey millitray is any thing like pakistan the whole military would help the coup and win

[Nariterrr]

Get him democratically out of here, a coups is wrong. Would you like it if Trump was couped.

Coups are constitutional if an Islamist is in power, but this is not an official coup.

They are?

[Great Feng]

Trump and Clinton were Democratically elected
Hitler was Democratically Elected
Putin was
Assad arguably was by your definition
None of these people deserve to be leaders of their countries and deserved to be overthrown(If Trump or Clinton are elected) and replaced with better people or democratic elections.
Hitler seriously should have been couped, and Trump and Clinton.

By your logic the 1936 spanish government overthrowing and civil war by the right wing Franco Fascists was justified...

Actually nope.
It's not justified.
It just doesn't automatically make you the bad guys.

[Anollasia]

Coups are constitutional if an Islamist is in power, but this is not an official coup.

How so?

It's only a group within the army doing this. It's not even commanded by the head of the military. In previous coups, it's always been the head of the military who was in charge. This is more like anarchy.

[Imperializt Russia]

The barrel of the tank seems to be intentionally positioned so as not to smack the protesters in the head, as well.

Isn't that the standard position of a tank barrel?

The gun looked quite elevated to me.

[Chestaan]

When you literally have to mow down crowds of protesting civillians to get your goal, it probably means you're the villains.

Given that Erdogan has done much of the same, you are not exactly vindicating him.

Yes Erdogan is a massive dick. Doesn't mean that the army is justified in killing civilians.

[Remnants of Exilvania]

When you literally have to mow down crowds of protesting civillians to get your goal, it probably means you're the villains.

So Anti Clinton or Anti Trump people/military rebels if they were elected would be the bad guys?
You don't understand politics at all. It's not all bloodless and that you can win without hurting a few people.
By your logic we should just all willingly live under democratically elected people who became dictators and hope it works out for the best.
Oh wait, that doesn't work.
The USA revolution had to actually kill some protesters during the American revolution, as did the British. So did the Germans, Soviets, and Japanese in WW2, and the Germans, Russians, Serbians, etc. in WW1.
Were they all the bad guys?

Almost all of the countries you named where considered bad guys later or at that time...

[Yuchal]

The barrel of the tank seems to be intentionally positioned so as not to smack the protesters in the head, as well.

Isn't that the standard position of a tank barrel?

Looks a bit high to me, like its been vertically moved upwards, but it might be. I'm not an expert on how Turkey aligns their tank barrels.

[Puzikas]

I really want to get back to Bioshock but damn if I can't tear myself from the screen.

This

I was gonna play Darksouls
but this is way more fun
Someone saw an Altay on the highway so like
im waiting for tankbowl

[Zeinbrad]

They seem to deliberately avoiding hitting anyone. I was imagining them barreling over lines of cars. Not one Taxi.

Yeah, what clearly occurred in that footage was, someone blocked the tank's way with a car. So it tried to navigate around the car, and unfortunately, struck a taxi.

Tank commander would have tried directing the driver. That looked like an Abrams to me. This is the field of view a Challenger 2 driver has.

Abrams really is not much better (though has three-port frontal arc view).

Looks like an M60.

Even then, it only crushed the trunk and pushed it out of the way.

The car looks driverless.

[The Nihilistic view]

If they do what they say I hope it succeeds.

Why? Would you like something like this to happen in the UK?

Would I support a military coup against a government doing what the current Turkish one is? Yes.

[Great Feng]

So Anti Clinton or Anti Trump people/military rebels if they were elected would be the bad guys?
You don't understand politics at all. It's not all bloodless and that you can win without hurting a few people.
By your logic we should just all willingly live under democratically elected people who became dictators and hope it works out for the best.
Oh wait, that doesn't work.
The USA revolution had to actually kill some protesters during the American revolution, as did the British. So did the Germans, Soviets, and Japanese in WW2, and the Germans, Russians, Serbians, etc. in WW1.
Were they all the bad guys?

Unless Clinton or Trump start usurping the Congress, yes they are.

Well Trump deserves to be thrown out off office if elected. As does Clinton. Neither of them represent truly democratic ideals.

[Koninkrijk Zeeland]

I support it. Erdogan is a goatfucker.

[Upendo Mwenyewe]

Whoever wins, the purges that will follow would make Stalin blush.

[Polar Svalbard]

Coups are constitutional if an Islamist is in power, but this is not an official coup.

They are?

Yes, by the constitution if the government starts to stop being secular and become more Islamist they are obligated to coup the government. Guess who is an Islamist? If you answered Erdogan you'd be correct.

[The Novakian Empire]

I'm starting to get the feeling this won't end well.