Turkey thread: now stuffed with more authoritarianism!

by **Umars memeistan** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:52 pm

explosion in istanbul and that other countires
and cnn turkey stop air on tv because soldiers ivaded the biulding

by **Valaran** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:52 pm

South Mauristan wrote:
Valaran wrote:
That means fairly little. I've been watching videos with bodies of civilians littered around for some time now.

how have you been watching ?

They post them on live feeds.

by **Olerand** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:53 pm

Valaran wrote:
Olerand wrote:If true, another catastrophe for the coup.

That means fairly little. I've been watching videos with bodies of civilians littered around for some time now.

And every dead child is a PR calamity. Grown men, and even women is one thing to the eyes of the media/public. Dead children, that's what gets the blood boiling in the region.

by **South Mauristan** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:53 pm

Organized States wrote:
San Lumen wrote:What is that a picture of?

It's a very large bridge.

by **Kalifati Arab shqiptar** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:53 pm

Friend of mine in Istanbul is on a roof, telling me he can hear sonic booms and low flying F-16s ( a lot others support the claim), I should probably tell him to get back inside.

by **Kelinfort** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:53 pm

Olerand wrote:
Valaran wrote:
That means fairly little. I've been watching videos with bodies of civilians littered around for some time now.

And every dead child is a PR calamity. Grown men, and even women is one thing to the eyes of the media/public. Dead children, that's what gets the blood boiling in the region.

16 year olds are generally not seen in the same light as a young child.

by **Valaran** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:54 pm

Olerand wrote:
Valaran wrote:
That means fairly little. I've been watching videos with bodies of civilians littered around for some time now.

And every dead child is a PR calamity. Grown men, and even women is one thing to the eyes of the media/public. Dead children, that's what gets the blood boiling in the region.

All I can say is that compared to everything else on right now, this hasn't been a main focus whatsoever, and plenty of such people only slight older appear to have been killed.

by **Organized States** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:54 pm

Valaran wrote:
Organized States wrote:There are twitter videos of the F-16s doing low-passes near the Protesters in an attempt to get them to move back. It's a common tactic used by USAF F-15s in Afghanistan.

The Parliament was controlled by the Government, last I checked.

But which protesters, there are both pro-Ak and anti-AK ones out there.

mhm, but only helis have been known to attack it so far (one's been circling around and firing at it).

The Witness reports are saying that the F-16s struck the Parliament.

They were flying in on the side of the Coup forces and it was around 3 hours ago (when the Coup first started).

by **Orberstine** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:54 pm

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:Friend of mine in Istanbul is on a roof, telling me he can hear sonic booms and low flying F-16s ( a lot others support the claim), I should probably tell him to get back inside.

Tell him first, not us.

by **Olerand** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:54 pm

Kalifati Arab shqiptar wrote:Friend of mine in Istanbul is on a roof, telling me he can hear sonic booms and low flying F-16s ( a lot others support the claim), I should probably tell him to get back inside.

That's sort of exciting though. The adrenaline rush alone. Oof.

Kelinfort wrote:
Olerand wrote:And every dead child is a PR calamity. Grown men, and even women is one thing to the eyes of the media/public. Dead children, that's what gets the blood boiling in the region.

16 year olds are generally not seen in the same light as a young child.

They are in the Middle East.

by **Kalifati Arab shqiptar** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:55 pm

Organized States wrote:
San Lumen wrote:What is that a picture of?

It's a very large bridge.

by **Olerand** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:55 pm

Valaran wrote:
Olerand wrote:And every dead child is a PR calamity. Grown men, and even women is one thing to the eyes of the media/public. Dead children, that's what gets the blood boiling in the region.

All I can say is that compared to everything else on right now, this hasn't been a main focus whatsoever, and plenty of such people only slight older appear to have been killed.

No, not now. When the dust settles, and the trials begin.

by **Valaran** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:55 pm

Organized States wrote:The Witness reports are saying that the F-16s struck the Parliament.

They were flying in on the side of the Coup forces and it was around 3 hours ago (when the Coup first started).

I've only seen heli ones.

This is confirmed, is it?

Regardless, I don't see the coup forces having anything yet approaching aerial supremacy.

by **Souseiseki** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:55 pm

not sure if AKP or tank man II

by **Nariterrr** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:55 pm

Olerand wrote:
Valaran wrote:
All I can say is that compared to everything else on right now, this hasn't been a main focus whatsoever, and plenty of such people only slight older appear to have been killed.

No, not now. When the dust settles, and the trials begin.

Death penalty to be reinsituted.

by **Valaran** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:56 pm

Olerand wrote:
Valaran wrote:
All I can say is that compared to everything else on right now, this hasn't been a main focus whatsoever, and plenty of such people only slight older appear to have been killed.

No, not now. When the dust settles, and the trials begin.

i.e. after the coup has failed anyway.

by **San Lumen** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:56 pm

If the military does control Ankara but not Istanbul and bombed Parliament that's not good. This coup might not have failed. Controlling the capital is far more important by coup standards than the largest city in my view,

by **Olerand** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:56 pm

Nariterrr wrote:
Olerand wrote:No, not now. When the dust settles, and the trials begin.

Death penalty to be reinsituted.

Not if Turkey is to remain in the Council of Europe or to keep its EU application open. Both of which are of course not set in stone, but it is unlikely Turkey will end both.

by **Avrellon** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:57 pm

However this ends up playing out, I don't think Erdogan is ever going to live this gem of a moment down: https://tvrain.ru/news/erdogan-413426/

by **Kalifati Arab shqiptar** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:57 pm

San Lumen wrote:If the military does control Ankara but not Istanbul and bombed Parliament that's not good. This coup might not have failed. Controlling the capital is fare more important by coup standards than the largest city in my view,

Yes, and I hope more units join the bloody cause.

by **Olerand** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:57 pm

Valaran wrote:
Olerand wrote:No, not now. When the dust settles, and the trials begin.

i.e. after the coup has failed anyway.

Well, yes, for the coup plotters I should say.

by **Skappola** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:57 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sO0g09LfbNQ

CNN Turk's live-stream is still going. You can hear protesters and gun shots in the background.

by **Valaran** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:57 pm

Olerand wrote:
Valaran wrote:i.e. after the coup has failed anyway.

Well, yes, for the coup plotters I should say.

By that point such outrage is rather moot, really.

by **Nariterrr** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:57 pm

Olerand wrote:
Nariterrr wrote:Death penalty to be reinsituted.

Not if Turkey is to remain in the Council of Europe or to keep its EU application open. Both of which are of course not set in stone, but it is unlikely Turkey will end both.

Good point, but I suspect that these people will be severely punished.

by **Umars memeistan** » Fri Jul 15, 2016 5:58 pm

bullets shoot in cnn turkey

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