Turkey thread: now stuffed with more authoritarianism!

[Arcturus Novus]

To be fair Erdogan was voted in to power fairly.

He's overstayed his welcome, imo.

breaking: there is a curfew stated in ankara
skynews

By whom?

Allegedly, the group that's initiated this coup.

[Imperializt Russia]

(source RaiNews)
Pro-Erdogan protesters have taken to the streets in Istanbul, while also anti-Erdogan protesters are being reported gathering around the Army and applauding as their tanks drive by.
In the meanwhile, Erdogan is trying to escape to Europe. Looks like Germany didn't allow him to land (my guess: to prevent further tensions among the rather large Turkish community of Germany), so he's heading to the Netherlands.

I thought we already had reports he'd landed in the UK.

[Calimera II]

To be fair Erdogan was voted in to power fairly.

You change your opinion every 20 seconds....

[Nariterrr]

I read they following orders from Islamic cleric named Fethullah Gülen, who criticized secularism.

[Kalifati Arab shqiptar]

(source RaiNews)
Pro-Erdogan protesters have taken to the streets in Istanbul, while also anti-Erdogan protesters are being reported gathering around the Army and applauding as their tanks drive by.
In the meanwhile, Erdogan is trying to escape to Europe. Looks like Germany didn't allow him to land (my guess: to prevent further tensions among the rather large Turkish community of Germany), so he's heading to the Netherlands.

fuuuuu, let's hope the Army is strong enough to quell them and put order in place.

[Socialist Nordia]

To be fair Erdogan was voted in to power fairly.

And then suppressed the free press by imprisoning journalists he didn't like. Not exactly fair when the media is always on your side.

[Esternial]

To be fair Erdogan was voted in to power fairly.

Buyer's remorse can take different forms. Look at Brexit.

[Calimera II]

I read they following orders from Islamic cleric named Fethullah Gülen, who criticized secularism.

The theory circulating in Turkey is that Köse, close collaborator of Gülen, is behind the coup.

[Great Nilfgaard]

To be fair Erdogan was voted in to power fairly.

He's overstayed his welcome, imo.

By whom?

Allegedly, the group that's initiated this coup.

Are they still in control in Ankara?

Situation in Istanbul seems rather up in the air at the moment. It'd be interesting if different areas of the country were under different zones of control.

[Geilinor]

You may despise them, but they haven't done anything to suppress democracy.

Mass surveillance, support of terrorist groups, no referendum to choose either to take refugees in or let them out, etc, etc.

Which terrorist groups and why should they have to hold a referendum?

[Eol Sha]

incidentally there's plenty of videos of casualties circulating.

To be fair Erdogan was voted in to power fairly.

fairly but not freely

I'd find this a convincing argument if Erdogan had gotten 80% of the vote.

[Kalifati Arab shqiptar]

(source RaiNews)
Pro-Erdogan protesters have taken to the streets in Istanbul, while also anti-Erdogan protesters are being reported gathering around the Army and applauding as their tanks drive by.
In the meanwhile, Erdogan is trying to escape to Europe. Looks like Germany didn't allow him to land (my guess: to prevent further tensions among the rather large Turkish community of Germany), so he's heading to the Netherlands.

I thought we already had reports he'd landed in the UK.

He was declined entrance in Germany, though, so I don't think he is in UK, just rumours, no planes can leave Turkey or they get shot down.

[Skappola]

Obama is supporting erdogen. Great, just great.

[Aelex]

Yeah, this coup just goes against democracy.

Quite the contrary. This Coup d'Etat is maintaining democracy when Erdogan is trying to create is own little Sultanate.

[Valaran]

fairly but not freely

What is that supposed to mean?

It means that while an election was held (twice actually) without complete rigging, people weren't given a free choice. Turkey has the most locked up journalists in the world, the judiciary, teachers, generals etc have all be suppressed at various points, and a good chunk of the nation (incidentally where a major opposition party was based) was under military occupation and heavily suppressed. That's not exactly democratic.

[Koninkrijk Zeeland]

To be fair Erdogan was voted in to power fairly.

Buyer's remorse can take different forms. Look at Brexit.

So if you vote for cameron and you dont like him you support a undemocratic coup by force?

[Esternial]

(source RaiNews)
Pro-Erdogan protesters have taken to the streets in Istanbul, while also anti-Erdogan protesters are being reported gathering around the Army and applauding as their tanks drive by.
In the meanwhile, Erdogan is trying to escape to Europe. Looks like Germany didn't allow him to land (my guess: to prevent further tensions among the rather large Turkish community of Germany), so he's heading to the Netherlands.

Eech bad pick. Iceland probably has fewest angry turkish people.

Buyer's remorse can take different forms. Look at Brexit.

So if you vote for cameron and you dont like him you support a undemocratic coup by force?

Well I did say different forms.

[Kalifati Arab shqiptar]

Obama is supporting erdogen. Great, just great.

Brothers in Arms

[Calimera II]

Getting bad...

In Istanbul the military says that if the protesters don't go home within 2 hours, they will be shot dead. [source: news, not entirely confirmed]

[Serconas]

I read they following orders from Islamic cleric named Fethullah Gülen, who criticized secularism.

Sky News said the Gülen movement condemned the coup.

[Nariterrr]

I thought we already had reports he'd landed in the UK.

He was declined entrance in Germany, though, so I don't think he is in UK, just rumours, no planes can leave Turkey or they get shot down.

He's not in Turkey.

[Kelinfort]

Images on CNN show protestors patting soldiers on the back and congratulating them.

[Grinstead]

Shieeeet

[Napkiraly]

To be fair Erdogan was voted in to power fairly.

Yeah, this coup just goes against democracy.

Democracy isn't the end all. Not to mention that the military has the constitutional right to intervene if the government starts pushing Turkey away from democracy and secularism.

[Upendo Mwenyewe]

Obama is supporting erdogen. Great, just great.

Now that it's clear the coup failed, yeah. That's the American MO.