It was a truck driver with a gun. I do know that.
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by New Jerzylvania » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:39 pm

by Freefall11111 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:39 pm

by Olerand » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:39 pm
The East Marches wrote:Olerand wrote:Iran's ambitions are limited by reality. Its ultimate goal is regional hegemony with the Shiite Crescent. But with no Sunni radicalism from which to draw oppressed groups into its sphere, where would it go, what would it do?Without Shia-Sunni hostilities, why would the Lebanese, Iraqi, Bahraini, Yemeni, etc. Shia accept Iranian protection and supremacy?
The same reason Catholics used to listen to the Pope over their own national leaders, religious.
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever

by Geilinor » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:39 pm

by Unified Governments » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:40 pm

by IndependentGreenland » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:40 pm

by Olerand » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:40 pm
IndependentGreenland wrote:Olerand wrote:Who shot at a summer camp of young left-wing activists. Not people watching the fireworks on Norway's national holiday.
Yeah I completely condemn what happened but do realise that the Left-Wing activists were calling for Norwegians to be Islamised and they supported Hamas - a Palastinian terrorist group!

Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever

by Freefall11111 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:40 pm
IndependentGreenland wrote:the Left-Wing activists were calling for Norwegians to be Islamised

by Stucco Houses » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:40 pm
IndependentGreenland wrote:Olerand wrote:Who shot at a summer camp of young left-wing activists. Not people watching the fireworks on Norway's national holiday.
Yeah I completely condemn what happened but do realise that the Left-Wing activists were calling for Norwegians to be Islamised and they supported Hamas - a Palastinian terrorist group!

by IndependentGreenland » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:41 pm

by Novus America » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:41 pm
Eol Sha wrote:Republic of Wijaya wrote:
The Problem is not about Islam Religion. This Problem just about Power and Who will lose.
And Fact The Largest Nation with Islam Population is Indonesia. Indonesia as the Largest Islam Population in the World they have peace with another
Eh. Islamist elements are rising in Indonesia as well.

by Patridam » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:41 pm

by Minzerland » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:42 pm
Westoropa wrote:So, was the driver an islamists or white nationalists? I think he was the later as most muslims are peacefull people.

by The East Marches » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:42 pm
Olerand wrote:The East Marches wrote:
The same reason Catholics used to listen to the Pope over their own national leaders, religious.
The Shia have no pope. The Shia, prior to the rise of the Hidden Imam theory in Iran, used to value Ijtihad and making their own decisions. That is why there are so many varieties in Shiism even though it is so much smaller than Sunnism. The Shia of Iraq had a different Madhab to the Shia of Iran before they edged closer together under Saddam and post-American invasion.

by Novus America » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:42 pm

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by Olerand » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:42 pm
The East Marches wrote:Olerand wrote:The Shia have no pope. The Shia, prior to the rise of the Hidden Imam theory in Iran, used to value Ijtihad and making their own decisions. That is why there are so many varieties in Shiism even though it is so much smaller than Sunnism. The Shia of Iraq had a different Madhab to the Shia of Iran before they edged closer together under Saddam and post-American invasion.
Yes but the Shia don't accept the authority of the state. Thats a problem if you are trying to govern a country.
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever

by Stucco Houses » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:43 pm
Patridam wrote:Stucco Houses wrote:So long as we're characterizing entire groups of people by what the most extreme among them do, all cops are racist killers too.
Even if cops being racist killers was anything resembling a widespread problem, which it isn't, there's a big flaw in that comparison.
Police protocol doesn't say to murder minorities. The Quran says to do those afformentioned things.

by Olerand » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:43 pm
Liriena wrote:Horrifying. Just saw the current number of fatal victims. I hope that no more will die.
Do we know anything about the driver?
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever

by IndependentGreenland » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:43 pm

by Freefall11111 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:43 pm
Liriena wrote:Horrifying. Just saw the current number of fatal victims. I hope that no more will die.
Do we know anything about the driver?

by Stucco Houses » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:44 pm

by The United Slavic Kingdoms » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:44 pm

by Freefall11111 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:44 pm

by Olerand » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:44 pm
Stucco Houses wrote:Patridam wrote:
Even if cops being racist killers was anything resembling a widespread problem, which it isn't, there's a big flaw in that comparison.
Police protocol doesn't say to murder minorities. The Quran says to do those afformentioned things.
And the Bible and years of doctrine and history tell Christians and Jews to do the same thing. The point isn't in the texts or teachings just as it isn't in the police code, people are being killed because of poverty, prejudice, and misinformation.
Free Rhenish States wrote:You're French, without faith, probably godless, liberal without any traditional values or respect for any faith whatsoever
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