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Postby New Jerzylvania » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:39 pm

Freefall11111 wrote:
Westoropa wrote:So, was the driver an islamists or white nationalists? I think he was the later as most muslims are peacefull people.

It was a Muslim.


It was a truck driver with a gun. I do know that.
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Postby Freefall11111 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:39 pm

New Jerzylvania wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:It was a Muslim.


It was a truck driver with a gun. I do know that.

Deport all truck drivers.

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Postby Olerand » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:39 pm

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The same reason Catholics used to listen to the Pope over their own national leaders, religious.

The Shia have no pope. The Shia, prior to the rise of the Hidden Imam theory in Iran, used to value Ijtihad and making their own decisions. That is why there are so many varieties in Shiism even though it is so much smaller than Sunnism. The Shia of Iraq had a different Madhab to the Shia of Iran before they edged closer together under Saddam and post-American invasion.
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Postby Geilinor » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:39 pm

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Freefall11111 wrote:That doesn't contradict anything I said.

You said he was a white supremacist. White supremacists and Counter Jihadists are completely different ideologies.

Breivik was a white supremacist, he wrote a whole document about it.
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And keeping foreign-enforced dictators ensures more turbulence down the line.

And letting a bunch of unpredictable rebels take over won't?

See: Libya
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Postby IndependentGreenland » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:40 pm

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IndependentGreenland wrote:Breivik was a counterJihadist...

Who shot at a summer camp of young left-wing activists. Not people watching the fireworks on Norway's national holiday.

Yeah I completely condemn what happened but do realise that the Left-Wing activists were calling for Norwegians to be Islamised and they supported Hamas - a Palastinian terrorist group!
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Postby Olerand » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:40 pm

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IndependentGreenland wrote:You said he was a white supremacist. White supremacists and Counter Jihadists are completely different ideologies.

They're not mutually exclusive.

Being a French identitaire and firing on French people watching the fireworks on July 14th are, however. This isn't a left-wing summer camp, this is people celebrating France.

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Olerand wrote:Who shot at a summer camp of young left-wing activists. Not people watching the fireworks on Norway's national holiday.

Yeah I completely condemn what happened but do realise that the Left-Wing activists were calling for Norwegians to be Islamised and they supported Hamas - a Palastinian terrorist group!

Anyway. :roll:
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IndependentGreenland wrote:the Left-Wing activists were calling for Norwegians to be Islamised

No. No, they weren't.

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IndependentGreenland wrote:
Olerand wrote:Who shot at a summer camp of young left-wing activists. Not people watching the fireworks on Norway's national holiday.

Yeah I completely condemn what happened but do realise that the Left-Wing activists were calling for Norwegians to be Islamised and they supported Hamas - a Palastinian terrorist group!

Let's not apologize for Breivik too much...
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Postby IndependentGreenland » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:41 pm

Geilinor wrote:
IndependentGreenland wrote:You said he was a white supremacist. White supremacists and Counter Jihadists are completely different ideologies.

Breivik was a white supremacist, he wrote a whole document about it.

Don't you mean a Nordicist? Still different!
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Postby Novus America » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:41 pm

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The Problem is not about Islam Religion. This Problem just about Power and Who will lose.
And Fact The Largest Nation with Islam Population is Indonesia. Indonesia as the Largest Islam Population in the World they have peace with another

Eh. Islamist elements are rising in Indonesia as well.


Yes, Saudi Imams have been very busy there, turning a once mostly moderate Muslim country and filling it with their venom.
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Postby Patridam » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:41 pm

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Islam, the religion of peace.

And killing anyone who says otherwise. Or who isn't a part of it. Or who tries to leave it.

So long as we're characterizing entire groups of people by what the most extreme among them do, all cops are racist killers too.


Even if cops being racist killers was anything resembling a widespread problem, which it isn't, there's a big flaw in that comparison.

Police protocol doesn't say to murder minorities. The Quran says to do those afformentioned things.
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Postby Minzerland » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:42 pm

Westoropa wrote:So, was the driver an islamists or white nationalists? I think he was the later as most muslims are peacefull people.


And white people aren't?
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Postby The East Marches » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:42 pm

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The same reason Catholics used to listen to the Pope over their own national leaders, religious.

The Shia have no pope. The Shia, prior to the rise of the Hidden Imam theory in Iran, used to value Ijtihad and making their own decisions. That is why there are so many varieties in Shiism even though it is so much smaller than Sunnism. The Shia of Iraq had a different Madhab to the Shia of Iran before they edged closer together under Saddam and post-American invasion.


Yes but the Shia don't accept the authority of the state. Thats a problem if you are trying to govern a country.
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Postby Novus America » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:42 pm

Unified Governments wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
And keeping foreign-enforced dictators ensures more turbulence down the line.

And letting a bunch of unpredictable rebels take over won't?

See: Libya


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Postby Liriena » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:42 pm

Horrifying. Just saw the current number of fatal victims. I hope that no more will die.

Do we know anything about the driver?
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The East Marches wrote:
Olerand wrote:The Shia have no pope. The Shia, prior to the rise of the Hidden Imam theory in Iran, used to value Ijtihad and making their own decisions. That is why there are so many varieties in Shiism even though it is so much smaller than Sunnism. The Shia of Iraq had a different Madhab to the Shia of Iran before they edged closer together under Saddam and post-American invasion.


Yes but the Shia don't accept the authority of the state. Thats a problem if you are trying to govern a country.

Uh... Sure they do.
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Patridam wrote:
Stucco Houses wrote:So long as we're characterizing entire groups of people by what the most extreme among them do, all cops are racist killers too.


Even if cops being racist killers was anything resembling a widespread problem, which it isn't, there's a big flaw in that comparison.

Police protocol doesn't say to murder minorities. The Quran says to do those afformentioned things.

And the Bible and years of doctrine and history tell Christians and Jews to do the same thing. The point isn't in the texts or teachings just as it isn't in the police code, people are being killed because of poverty, prejudice, and misinformation.
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Postby Olerand » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:43 pm

Liriena wrote:Horrifying. Just saw the current number of fatal victims. I hope that no more will die.

Do we know anything about the driver?

French of Tunisian descent. Man, 31 years old.
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Postby IndependentGreenland » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:43 pm

Freefall11111 wrote:
IndependentGreenland wrote:the Left-Wing activists were calling for Norwegians to be Islamised

No. No, they weren't.

Yes they were. They wanted Norwegians to interbreed (or should I say be raped by) and mix with Somalis, Afghans and other Muslim ethnicities.
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Postby Freefall11111 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:43 pm

Liriena wrote:Horrifying. Just saw the current number of fatal victims. I hope that no more will die.

Do we know anything about the driver?

31 years old and Tunisian, supposedly.

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IndependentGreenland wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:No. No, they weren't.

Yes they were. They wanted Norwegians to interbreed (or should I say be raped by) and mix with Somalis, Afghans and other Muslim ethnicities.

Well, at least it isn't coded...
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He also wants the military to kill non-combatant spouses, children and family members of Daesh fighters too.

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IndependentGreenland wrote:
Freefall11111 wrote:No. No, they weren't.

Yes they were. They wanted Norwegians to interbreed (or should I say be raped by) and mix with Somalis, Afghans and other Muslim ethnicities.

You're delusional, I should've noticed you're a Nazi before even attempting to respond to your claims.

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Postby Olerand » Thu Jul 14, 2016 8:44 pm

Stucco Houses wrote:
Patridam wrote:
Even if cops being racist killers was anything resembling a widespread problem, which it isn't, there's a big flaw in that comparison.

Police protocol doesn't say to murder minorities. The Quran says to do those afformentioned things.

And the Bible and years of doctrine and history tell Christians and Jews to do the same thing. The point isn't in the texts or teachings just as it isn't in the police code, people are being killed because of poverty, prejudice, and misinformation.

People are being killed because they can't read this 1400 year old book with some critical judgment and thought. That's what happens when your book is divinely revealed.
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