Truck Drives Through Crowd in Nice, France

[Geilinor]

So, was the driver an islamists or white nationalists? I think he was the later as most muslims are peacefull people.

We already know he was an Islamist.

[IndependentGreenland]

HAH....Assad..."Free Syria". Nice one.

You do realize he actively targets his own civilians, right?

A common trait among dictators.

Angela Merkel targets anyone who is politically incorrect. She even targets Pegida!

[The East Marches]

I 100% disagree with you. They have proven willing to give arms to Sunni groups too if it gets their goals met. Though I may agree on the terror attacks in the West. There would not be as many as most those in the West are not Shia.

Without Sunni radicalism, there would be no Sunni groups to give weapons to. Iran would be effectively contained.

There will always be a rebel or separatist movement to throw arms at. Especially with the goatfuck of central Asia. We'd have to have a stable and not divided Afghanistan not to mention the Sunni problem. I believe Sunnis will solve their problems. before Afghans stop killing each other.

Your theory is based on the idea that the surrounding world will be stable around Iran. Iran doesn't want that because it means they could be contained. The state of the world will never reach that.

[Freefall11111]

So, was the driver an islamists or white nationalists? I think he was the later as most muslims are peacefull people.

It was a Muslim.

[Dameth]

I don't think we should pull back, I think we should amplify our support for the Kurds. All that we can do other than that is urge the Arabs to fight the IS. I regret that we limited the IS' expansion however, since its borders reaching Saudi Arabia might have just jolted the Arabo-Islamic world into reality. At the cost of much bloodshed of course, but it could have perhaps sealed this coffin once and for all.

I'm not a military strategist, so I definitely am out of place in discussing strategy. If supporting the Kurds proves itself effective, so be it, let's do that. But let's do something, I want to see our boots on the viper's head. Wether we do that on our own or we help the Kurds, it's a matter of technicity. The bottom line being, it's time to end them, one way or the other.

[Salus Maior]

HAH....Assad..."Free Syria". Nice one.

You do realize he actively targets his own civilians, right?

Only ISIS and rebel supporters. Also I find it hard to believe that he gassed his civilians like Hussein or Gaddafi.

How very naive of you. And he has been actively bombing civilian residencies and hospitals, not even rebel related targets.

[Eol Sha]

If you propose we pull back from Syria, I'd give you a point for consistancy, but do you think this is reasonable ? If we can't attack, what can we do. Raising emergency level does not work, and it's not like the international weeping campaign will do any good.

I don't think we should pull back, I think we should amplify our support for the Kurds. All that we can do other than that is urge the Arabs to fight the IS. I regret that we limited the IS' expansion however, since its borders reaching Saudi Arabia might have just jolted the Arabo-Islamic world into reality. At the cost of much bloodshed of course, but it could have perhaps sealed this coffin once and for all.

Hahahaha! No. I'd say how this is a silly thing to think, but I think you're smart enough to know that.

[Othelos]

So, was the driver an islamists or white nationalists? I think he was the later as most muslims are peacefull people.

Why would a white nationalist drive over a crowd of French people?

[Unified Governments]

A common trait among dictators.

Which is why he's not really an option for a better Syria post-war.

Especially considering he's the cause of the Civil War that allowed ISIS to get stronger in the first place.

It's been proven time and time again that bumping off dictators only makes these countries worse.

[Salus Maior]

A common trait among dictators.

Angela Merkel targets anyone who is politically incorrect. She even targets Pegida!

So she bombs hospital and civilian residences?

Come on, please show some more thought than this.

[Freefall11111]

So, was the driver an islamists or white nationalists? I think he was the later as most muslims are peacefull people.

Why would a white nationalist drive over a crowd of French people?

Has it really been so long that people are forgetting about Breivik? White supremacist types target everyone.

[IndependentGreenland]

Iraq may not be the Muslim world at large but it is at the center of the Middle East. Two fanatical groups going all out for influence between the Saudis and the Iranians. Both are bad will destabilize things. You are right there are more Sunnis, I don't believe this precludes the Shia from being an equal threat in the future should we anger the puppet masters in Iran. They are merely laying low because we are co-belligerents at the moment.

The Problem is not about Islam Religion. This Problem just about Power and Who will lose.
And Fact The Largest Nation with Islam Population is Indonesia. Indonesia as the Largest Islam Population in the World they have peace with another

Oh really? Indonesia denied the indepndence of West Papua when the Netherlands promise the Papuans. Indonesia threatened the West to become Communist...

[Novus America]

True, the cancer has spread far beyond. But Saudi Arabia is still the biggest and most malignant tumor.

Interestingly, Saudi Arabia put together a coalition to combat ISIS.

Their own monster child has come back to bite them.

Yes, a coalition that has done nothing solve the problem. But yes it is funny, their own monster child has come back to bite them, yet they insist on producing more of the same monster children.

[Eol Sha]

Iraq may not be the Muslim world at large but it is at the center of the Middle East. Two fanatical groups going all out for influence between the Saudis and the Iranians. Both are bad will destabilize things. You are right there are more Sunnis, I don't believe this precludes the Shia from being an equal threat in the future should we anger the puppet masters in Iran. They are merely laying low because we are co-belligerents at the moment.

The Problem is not about Islam Religion. This Problem just about Power and Who will lose.
And Fact The Largest Nation with Islam Population is Indonesia. Indonesia as the Largest Islam Population in the World they have peace with another

Eh. Islamist elements are rising in Indonesia as well.

[IndependentGreenland]

Why would a white nationalist drive over a crowd of French people?

Has it really been so long that people are forgetting about Breivik? White supremacist types target everyone.

Breivik was a counterJihadist...

[Olerand]

Without Sunni radicalism, there would be no Sunni groups to give weapons to. Iran would be effectively contained.

There will always be a rebel or separatist movement to throw arms at. Especially with the goatfuck of central Asia. We'd have to have a stable and not divided Afghanistan not to mention the Sunni problem. I believe Sunnis will solve their problems. before Afghans stop killing each other.

Your theory is based on the idea that the surrounding world will be stable around Iran. Iran doesn't want that because it means they could be contained. The state of the world will never reach that.

Iran's ambitions are limited by reality. Its ultimate goal is regional hegemony with the Shiite Crescent. But with no Sunni radicalism from which to draw oppressed groups into its sphere, where would it go, what would it do?Without Shia-Sunni hostilities, why would the Lebanese, Iraqi, Bahraini, Yemeni, etc. Shia accept Iranian protection and supremacy?

[Patridam]

So, was the driver an islamists or white nationalists? I think he was the later as most muslims are peacefull people.

Islam, the religion of peace.

And the religion killing anyone who says otherwise. Or killing those who aren't a part of it. Or killing those who try to leave it.

[Salus Maior]

Which is why he's not really an option for a better Syria post-war.

Especially considering he's the cause of the Civil War that allowed ISIS to get stronger in the first place.

It's been proven time and time again that bumping off dictators only makes these countries worse.

And keeping foreign-enforced dictators ensures more turbulence down the line.

[Freefall11111]

Has it really been so long that people are forgetting about Breivik? White supremacist types target everyone.

Breivik was a counterJihadist...

That doesn't contradict anything I said.

[Olerand]

Has it really been so long that people are forgetting about Breivik? White supremacist types target everyone.

Breivik was a counterJihadist...

Who shot at a summer camp of young left-wing activists. Not people watching the fireworks on Norway's national holiday.

[The East Marches]

There will always be a rebel or separatist movement to throw arms at. Especially with the goatfuck of central Asia. We'd have to have a stable and not divided Afghanistan not to mention the Sunni problem. I believe Sunnis will solve their problems. before Afghans stop killing each other.

Your theory is based on the idea that the surrounding world will be stable around Iran. Iran doesn't want that because it means they could be contained. The state of the world will never reach that.

Iran's ambitions are limited by reality. Its ultimate goal is regional hegemony with the Shiite Crescent. But with no Sunni radicalism from which to draw oppressed groups into its sphere, where would it go, what would it do?Without Shia-Sunni hostilities, why would the Lebanese, Iraqi, Bahraini, Yemeni, etc. Shia accept Iranian protection and supremacy?

The same reason Catholics used to listen to the Pope over their own national leaders, religious.

[IndependentGreenland]

Breivik was a counterJihadist...

That doesn't contradict anything I said.

You said he was a white supremacist. White supremacists and Counter Jihadists are completely different ideologies.

[Novus America]

I don't think we should pull back, I think we should amplify our support for the Kurds. All that we can do other than that is urge the Arabs to fight the IS. I regret that we limited the IS' expansion however, since its borders reaching Saudi Arabia might have just jolted the Arabo-Islamic world into reality. At the cost of much bloodshed of course, but it could have perhaps sealed this coffin once and for all.

I'm not a military strategist, so I definitely am out of place in discussing strategy. If supporting the Kurds proves itself effective, so be it, let's do that. But let's do something, I want to see our boots on the viper's head. Wether we do that on our own or we help the Kurds, it's a matter of technicity. The bottom line being, it's time to end them, one way or the other.

The Viper's head? The viper's head is not in Syria. The head is Riyadh. You can whatever you want to Syria. Syria is just a symptom.

[Stucco Houses]

So, was the driver an islamists or white nationalists? I think he was the later as most muslims are peacefull people.

Islam, the religion of peace.

And killing anyone who says otherwise. Or who isn't a part of it. Or who tries to leave it.

So long as we're characterizing entire groups of people by what the most extreme among them do, all cops are racist killers too.

[Freefall11111]

That doesn't contradict anything I said.

You said he was a white supremacist. White supremacists and Counter Jihadists are completely different ideologies.

They're not mutually exclusive.