Truck Drives Through Crowd in Nice, France

[Koninkrijk Zeeland]

Does not matter if they wanted to trade in gold or not. Iraq was a main supplier of oil, and while nations like the USA and Russia would be fine, smaller nations would either have to pay in gold, or rack up debt to get oil from iraq. Look at Gadhafi's gold money plan for a more recent attempt at a plan like this

Saddam was always quite willing to take USD from anybody. He was a greedy fuck looking to make a buck, not trying to undermine the dollar with some nonsensical scheme.

Said poor countries would just buy oil elsewhere. Nobody is going to pay gold. Nobody will trade in gold. Gaddafi was insane, and his plan was a stupid idea that could never be implemented.

What was Gaddafi's idea?

[Novus America]

Saddam was always quite willing to take USD from anybody. He was a greedy fuck looking to make a buck, not trying to undermine the dollar with some nonsensical scheme.

Said poor countries would just buy oil elsewhere. Nobody is going to pay gold. Nobody will trade in gold. Gaddafi was insane, and his plan was a stupid idea that could never be implemented.

Explain to me why Gaddafi's plan would fail, i have an open mind,and am willing to hear your opinion.

We dropped gold backed currency for a reason. There is not nearly enough gold to back it. You would have to make the gold value so absurdly below the face value as to be pointless.

Plus gold prices are very unstable. Your currency would rapidly inflate and deflate.

[Islamic Empire of Europe and Arabia]

Definitely a terror attack, timing pretty much says it.

Now I'm waiting for a Trump tweet doubling down on calling for armed civilians and ejection of all suspected Muslims.

Armed citizens would help. As long as they are law abiding and pass a background test. But all Trump wants to do is temporarily ban immigration from Muslim countries until we fix the system of bringing good people in and keeping bad people out. Nice job getting your information from Msnbc.

As a Muslim living in America, I find it appaling that you support keeping me from seeing my family who do not live in the United States, and treating me like a criminal when I have never so much as stolen a candy bar, tracking my every move.

[The Celtic British Isles]

Explain to me why Gaddafi's plan would fail, i have an open mind,and am willing to hear your opinion.

We dropped gold backed currency for a reason. There is not nearly enough gold to back it. You would have to make the gold value so absurdly below the face value as to be pointless.

Plus gold prices are very unstable. Your currency would rapidly inflate and deflate.

Ok, but is currency backed up by NOTHING more stable then currency backed up by GOLD

[Saiwania]

Many Jihadists are actually from wealthy or elite families, so I don't think Islamic fundamentalism is tied to poverty at all. I think the madrassahs are to blame and the proliferation of Wahhabism needs to be rolled back or seriously challenged for it to wane in support.

[Felrik]

You're kidding, right? You're using medieval Europe as an example for what is going on today? Tell me, if poverty and colonialism are to blame, why is terrorism not also rampant in South America or Asia for that matter? This level of terrorism is unique to the Middle East, especially considering that the Middle East by and large tends to be a middle income area. The Middle East is simply culturally backwards. Islam has yet to go through a Reformation or and Enlightenment like Christianity did.

In a word, terrorism is absolutely as rampant in South America and Asia.

The insinuation that Islam is culturally backward is ignorant and bigoted. I will not debate it.

The fact that you can't see it is astounding, A religion that treats women as half a man, A religion that encourages its followers to kill non-believers and gays, A religion that stones a women after she was raped is a culturally backwards religion.

I can provide quotes from the Quran itself if you like.

[Koninkrijk Zeeland]

Explain to me why Gaddafi's plan would fail, i have an open mind,and am willing to hear your opinion.

We dropped gold backed currency for a reason. There is not nearly enough gold to back it. You would have to make the gold value so absurdly below the face value as to be pointless.

Plus gold prices are very unstable. Your currency would rapidly inflate and deflate.

When the usa was on the gold standard inflation was low.

[Novus America]

Saddam was always quite willing to take USD from anybody. He was a greedy fuck looking to make a buck, not trying to undermine the dollar with some nonsensical scheme.

Said poor countries would just buy oil elsewhere. Nobody is going to pay gold. Nobody will trade in gold. Gaddafi was insane, and his plan was a stupid idea that could never be implemented.

What was Gaddafi's idea?

To get people to buy his oil with single African currency with actual gold coins.

[Islamic Empire of Europe and Arabia]

Wealthy nations are statistically less violent than poor ones.

The fact is that there is no easy way to end world poverty, but we can start by identifying colonialist practices and stopping them and seeking more equitable societies and international relations. I don't have all the answers for you, but jumping to bigotry is not one of them, and interventionism is not another.

Hell, if you're method of dealing with the problem terrorism is solving the impossible to solve problem of globabl poverty, gee, why don't you share that with the US government! Hell you could sooner remove Islam from existance than you could remove global poverty. And removing islam is a shoe in to stop islamic terror, whereas the results of removing poverty is up in the air.

And believe it or not colonialism isn't the source of global poverty. Hell, it probably has made plenty of colonies richer and more developed in a shorter time than they ever would have done now, in which case continued failure of ex colonial countries to succeed economical by themselves is just them falling back to where they would have been without colonialism in the first place.

So, if interventionism is not a solution, well, we just let ISIS grow and don't try to stop them, don't help those who fight back against them, don't provide aid to the impoverished Muslims, don't take any refugees (is that non interventionism, not taking refugees? Or is taking infinite refugees non interventionism?) just go all star trek prime directive on them even as they blow our civilians up every other week as they slowly engulf the entire middle east and probably Europe. Great, I'm sure they'll work it out eventually, probably about 50 years after the world is destroyed by nuclear fire.

"Don't aide Muslims, don't aide refugees." My God you are dumb, you are either incredibly racist and Islamophobic, or incredibly stupid. What do you think the refugees and impoverished Muslims are going to do when they see that the west truly is bent on their destruction? THEY WILL TAKE ARMS AGAINST THE WEST! In my experience, people like you claim that we play the victim, when in fact YOU are playing the victim. You march into their countries, take their resources, enslave the population, terrorize the rest, and when they do the same to you you cry "terrorist!" Well yes, but aren't you the terrorist as well?

[Kelinfort]

Many Jihadists are actually from wealthy or elite families, so I don't think Islamic fundamentalism is tied to poverty at all. I think the madrassahs are to blame and the proliferation of Wahhabism needs to be rolled back or seriously challenged for it to wane in support.

It's encouraged by the Saudi's, in a play to grow influence. They control the charity, and this, control the message to the poor.

[Novus America]

We dropped gold backed currency for a reason. There is not nearly enough gold to back it. You would have to make the gold value so absurdly below the face value as to be pointless.

Plus gold prices are very unstable. Your currency would rapidly inflate and deflate.

Ok, but is currency backed up by NOTHING more stable then currency backed up by GOLD

No, because gold prices are crazy unstable.

[Kelinfort]

We dropped gold backed currency for a reason. There is not nearly enough gold to back it. You would have to make the gold value so absurdly below the face value as to be pointless.

Plus gold prices are very unstable. Your currency would rapidly inflate and deflate.

Ok, but is currency backed up by NOTHING more stable then currency backed up by GOLD

Floating your currency is more stable than tying it to a commodity.

[Felrik]

Hell, if you're method of dealing with the problem terrorism is solving the impossible to solve problem of globabl poverty, gee, why don't you share that with the US government! Hell you could sooner remove Islam from existance than you could remove global poverty. And removing islam is a shoe in to stop islamic terror, whereas the results of removing poverty is up in the air.

And believe it or not colonialism isn't the source of global poverty. Hell, it probably has made plenty of colonies richer and more developed in a shorter time than they ever would have done now, in which case continued failure of ex colonial countries to succeed economical by themselves is just them falling back to where they would have been without colonialism in the first place.

So, if interventionism is not a solution, well, we just let ISIS grow and don't try to stop them, don't help those who fight back against them, don't provide aid to the impoverished Muslims, don't take any refugees (is that non interventionism, not taking refugees? Or is taking infinite refugees non interventionism?) just go all star trek prime directive on them even as they blow our civilians up every other week as they slowly engulf the entire middle east and probably Europe. Great, I'm sure they'll work it out eventually, probably about 50 years after the world is destroyed by nuclear fire.

"Don't aide Muslims, don't aide refugees." My God you are dumb, you are either incredibly racist and Islamophobic, or incredibly stupid. What do you think the refugees and impoverished Muslims are going to do when they see that the west truly is bent on their destruction? THEY WILL TAKE ARMS AGAINST THE WEST! In my experience, people like you claim that we play the victim, when in fact YOU are playing the victim. You march into their countries, take their resources, enslave the population, terrorize the rest, and when they do the same to you you cry "terrorist!" Well yes, but aren't you the terrorist as well?

How did the west enslave the population, your certainly making a absurd claim there.

[San Marlindo]

Why is it always France?

My bet? Le Penn. Feeds a narrative that Muslims are evil, some people start treating Muslims like shit, some of those Muslims snap under this, join ISIS, and the cycle can be lea to continue.

Some people are always going to treat people like shit, in every and any country, with or without Le Penn.

[Novus America]

We dropped gold backed currency for a reason. There is not nearly enough gold to back it. You would have to make the gold value so absurdly below the face value as to be pointless.

Plus gold prices are very unstable. Your currency would rapidly inflate and deflate.

When the usa was on the gold standard inflation was low.

And inflation is still low without the gold standard. When the US had the gold standard the gold value was so far below face value as to be basically meaningless.

[The Alexanderians]

I heard the official death count was around 80.
Can anyone confirm?

[Novus America]

Ok, but is currency backed up by NOTHING more stable then currency backed up by GOLD

Floating your currency is more stable than tying it to a commodity.

Exactly. Especially gold, which is very unstable.

[Korva]

Hell, if you're method of dealing with the problem terrorism is solving the impossible to solve problem of globabl poverty, gee, why don't you share that with the US government! Hell you could sooner remove Islam from existance than you could remove global poverty. And removing islam is a shoe in to stop islamic terror, whereas the results of removing poverty is up in the air.

And believe it or not colonialism isn't the source of global poverty. Hell, it probably has made plenty of colonies richer and more developed in a shorter time than they ever would have done now, in which case continued failure of ex colonial countries to succeed economical by themselves is just them falling back to where they would have been without colonialism in the first place.

So, if interventionism is not a solution, well, we just let ISIS grow and don't try to stop them, don't help those who fight back against them, don't provide aid to the impoverished Muslims, don't take any refugees (is that non interventionism, not taking refugees? Or is taking infinite refugees non interventionism?) just go all star trek prime directive on them even as they blow our civilians up every other week as they slowly engulf the entire middle east and probably Europe. Great, I'm sure they'll work it out eventually, probably about 50 years after the world is destroyed by nuclear fire.

"Don't aide Muslims, don't aide refugees." My God you are dumb, you are either incredibly racist and Islamophobic, or incredibly stupid. What do you think the refugees and impoverished Muslims are going to do when they see that the west truly is bent on their destruction? THEY WILL TAKE ARMS AGAINST THE WEST! In my experience, people like you claim that we play the victim, when in fact YOU are playing the victim. You march into their countries, take their resources, enslave the population, terrorize the rest, and when they do the same to you you cry "terrorist!" Well yes, but aren't you the terrorist as well?

How many slaves were in Imperator Hollande's Triumph following Operation Serval?

Also, how many aircraft carriers have these refugees got?

[Kelinfort]

My bet? Le Penn. Feeds a narrative that Muslims are evil, some people start treating Muslims like shit, some of those Muslims snap under this, join ISIS, and the cycle can be lea to continue.

Some people are always going to treat people like shit, in every and any country, with or without Le Penn.

Le Sean Penn?

[Risottia]

Many Jihadists are actually from wealthy or elite families, so I don't think Islamic fundamentalism is tied to poverty at all. I think the madrassahs are to blame and the proliferation of Wahhabism needs to be rolled back or seriously challenged for it to wane in support.

I am wondering, are there Saudi-funded madrassas in France?

[Yugana]

Mod edit: Knock it off.

[Minzerland]

:rofl:

What's so funny?

[Costa Fierro]

Many Jihadists are actually from wealthy or elite families, so I don't think Islamic fundamentalism is tied to poverty at all. I think the madrassahs are to blame and the proliferation of Wahhabism needs to be rolled back or seriously challenged for it to wane in support.

I am wondering, are there Saudi-funded madrassas in France?

No, but the French have cracked down on mosques which are known to have radical imams.

[Confederation de Shyra]

I heard the official death count was around 80.
Can anyone confirm?

I am a Frenchman , just watched RMC Découverte which is broadcasting a special breakfast news session , and just a few minutes ago they said the official death count was now of exactly 84 people dead and about twenty persons in critical health condition , according to the official spokesperson of the Interior Ministry.

[Othelos]

I heard the official death count was around 80.
Can anyone confirm?

I am a Frenchman , just watched RMC Découverte which is broadcasting a special breakfast news session , and just a few minutes ago they said the official death count was now of exactly 84 people dead and about twenty persons in critical health condition , according to the official spokesperson of the Interior Ministry.

This is awful.