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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:11 pm

Aelex wrote:
Ifreann wrote:I thought the driver was shot dead?

Yep. But apparently there was someone on the passenger seat, possibly with a handgun. I don't know much more, the reports are contradictory.
His existence is pretty sure, tho, at least.

I see.


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Check your fucking privilege you evil cisgender white male truck owner, I'll bet you own 20 trucks that can all go at speeds of 90 MPH or greater. Why is it that truck owners must senselessly cling to their deadly high capacity assault trucks that cause tragedies like this?

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Postby Aelex » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:12 pm

Olerand wrote:J'est un oncle qui habite à Nice et qui est allé avec sa femme et sa petite fille pour regarder le spéctacle. Ma mère essaie de le contacter, mais il ne répond pas. Je ne crois pas qu'ils étaient au promenade, mais nous attendons les annonces de la préfecture.

She was guaranteed to be in the second round anyway. But if this is the new rhythm until 2017, we can't even foresee her score during the second round anymore.

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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:12 pm

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Aelex wrote:Definetely a terrorist attack as the driver seem to have run over people through a distance of 2 km approximately with a speed of 60km/h at least.

Not all mass murders are terrorism.


You know it's likely going to be terrorism, given what has happened in France as of recent.

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Postby Free Tristania » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:12 pm

Dutch media just reported that the casualty figure has risen to some 73 people. The driver has been shot - I wish him all the best with his 72 virgin goats while serving as Satan's butt boy. Sky News Live just said that everything points at a premeditated and thus deliberate action.
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Postby Xadufell » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:12 pm

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Kelinfort wrote:CNN is reporting language has shifted from calling the incident a "terror attack" to just an "attack" in the past half hour or so.


Why? :/


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Postby Herskerstad » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:13 pm

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Anollasia wrote:Why is it always France? :(

My bet? Le Penn. Feeds a narrative that Muslims are evil, some people start treating Muslims like shit, some of those Muslims snap under this, join ISIS, and the cycle can be lea to continue.


Really? My bet is that they ate a bad set of cereal, got incredibly upset because of the patriotism on the cereal package, connected bad things to the French flag and lashed out against it feeling justified.

If it happens to be Islamic terrorism and I will until proven say IF, then you don't have to dig far through the sources to know where they got their justification or motives. If being treated like shit was the standards to which such events would take place, the Jewish population would have an armada of truck incidents by now, as would the poor globally.
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Postby Olerand » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:13 pm

At least 60 dead.
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Postby Saint-Thor » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:13 pm

Damn, I saw strollers on some footages... :(

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Postby Aelex » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:14 pm

Olerand wrote:At least 60 dead.

73 last report. 120 woundeds at least.
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Postby Olerand » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:14 pm

Anollasia wrote:Why is it always France? :(

We have a large Muslim population, we are the ideological representation of everything the IS hates, we are the ideological opposites of the IS, we are the second most actively involved Western nation against them, and we have been branded by them as the "soft underbelly of the West".

So quite a few reasons.
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:14 pm

Olerand wrote:The préfecture has already declared this a terrorist attack. I have family in the area who can't be contacted, so I hope they're alright. Anyway, this is tragic, but unavoidable. We really have a major problem in this country, and the longer mainstream politicians hold off on doing anything the higher the FN will rise. I thought Marine had a chance in 2022, but if things keep going like this, she might have a chance as early as 2017.


Best wishes for your family, mate. I'm sure it's fine.

I was just in France, and passed through Nice. Weird.

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Postby Bakery Hill » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:15 pm

It's been over an hour since at least 60 people died and the 'jokers' are already out.

Good on you fellas, you're all super edgy.
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Postby Olerand » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:15 pm

Aelex wrote:
Olerand wrote:At least 60 dead.

73 last report. 120 woundeds at least.

I've seen some media report this. I'm going by France 2's reporting and Le Monde's, and they're reporting a conservative 60 dead. So the numbers will only climb up from here.
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Postby Great Kauthar » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:16 pm

the Islamic State have claimed responsibility. Kill every single one of those fuckers. Shoot them, burn them, hang them, I don't care, every single ISIS militant should be killed.

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Anollasia wrote:Why is it always France? :(

My bet? Le Penn. Feeds a narrative that Muslims are evil, some people start treating Muslims like shit, some of those Muslims snap under this, join ISIS, and the cycle can be lea to continue.

So basically we should restrict our own speech because some Muslims can't handle their religion being criticized? We shouldn't voice our opinions in case it offends terrorists?
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:16 pm

Val Halla wrote:
Anollasia wrote:Why is it always France? :(

My bet? Le Penn. Feeds a narrative that Muslims are evil, some people start treating Muslims like shit, some of those Muslims snap under this, join ISIS, and the cycle can be lea to continue.


Its always our fucking fault. The reason LePen is popular is because of shit like this.

Your cycle is as non existent as your logic.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:16 pm

Great Kauthar wrote:the Islamic State have claimed responsibility. Kill every single one of those fuckers. Shoot them, burn them, hang them, I don't care, every single ISIS militant should be killed.


Source?

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:17 pm

Major-Tom wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Not all mass murders are terrorism.


You know it's likely going to be terrorism, given what has happened in France as of recent.

Do I? Apparently you know more about what I know than I do.
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Postby Olerand » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:17 pm

Val Halla wrote:
Anollasia wrote:Why is it always France? :(

My bet? Le Penn. Feeds a narrative that Muslims are evil, some people start treating Muslims like shit, some of those Muslims snap under this, join ISIS, and the cycle can be lea to continue.

Very weak reasoning. How would the FN benefit from driving trucks through French people?
Unless if it got a Muslim brainwashed to do it, and then through its secret ties orders the IS to take credit.
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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:18 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
You know it's likely going to be terrorism, given what has happened in France as of recent.

Do I? Apparently you know more about what I know than I do.


Ifreann, come morning, I'm sure we'll both see the perpetrator. It will most likely be Islamic terrorism and I sincerely hope I'm wrong

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Postby Great Kauthar » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:18 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Great Kauthar wrote:the Islamic State have claimed responsibility. Kill every single one of those fuckers. Shoot them, burn them, hang them, I don't care, every single ISIS militant should be killed.


Source?

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Postby Olerand » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:18 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Major-Tom wrote:
You know it's likely going to be terrorism, given what has happened in France as of recent.

Do I? Apparently you know more about what I know than I do.

The préfecture is calling it an "attentat". Attentat isn't a term used for mass murders.
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Postby Kalifati Arab shqiptar » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:19 pm

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Postby Olerand » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:19 pm


Broadcasting pictures of the dead is extremely, abhorrently, vulgar and disrespectful.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:19 pm

Great Kauthar wrote:the Islamic State have claimed responsibility. Kill every single one of those fuckers. Shoot them, burn them, hang them, I don't care, every single ISIS militant should be killed.

Val Halla wrote:My bet? Le Penn. Feeds a narrative that Muslims are evil, some people start treating Muslims like shit, some of those Muslims snap under this, join ISIS, and the cycle can be lea to continue.

So basically we should restrict our own speech because some Muslims can't handle their religion being criticized? We shouldn't voice our opinions in case it offends terrorists?

No one said that. But maybe you should sit and think about what it means that when someone said that Muslims being treated like shit might lead to some of them joining extremist groups, your immediate reaction was to be offended.
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Postby Cerillium » Thu Jul 14, 2016 4:19 pm

Saint-Thor wrote:Damn, I saw strollers on some footages... :(

Mes condoléances aux français, d'un ami du Québec.

Indeed. Notre bien-aime France - c'est avec emotion que j'apprends le deuil qui vous frappe tout d'un coup et je tiens a ce que vous soyez assure de ma chaleureuse sympathie.
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